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gibby08

Since people are starting to put out Top 25 lists...we might as well do this

1.Mark Ingram
2.Jake Locker
3.Dion Lewis
4.Ryan Mallett
5.Kellen Moore
6.Jacquizz Rogers
7.Johnny Brantley
8.Terrelle Pryor
9.Andrew Luck
10.Matt Barkley

Preseason favorites:Ingram and Locker
Dark Horses:Brantley and Luck

LJ

I think Dion Lewis wins it and Locker wins the Maxwell.

gibby08

If Ingram comes close to his stats from last year..and they go undefeated...no way they cant give it to him

Mulva

I think you have Mallett and Brantley too high, and Kellen Moore a spot or 2 too low.

Ryan Williams should also be on the list. 1655 rushing yards and 21 TDs last season.

I would say it's...

1. Ingram
2. Locker
3. Moore
4. Pryor
5a. Williams
5b. Lewis

I'll throw Big 12 QBs in general out as my dark horse. Landry Jones, Blaine Gabbert, and Jerrod Johnson are all going to have big years. Jones is probably the only one whose team will have enough success to get him enough pub though.

LJ

gibby08 wrote: If Ingram comes close to his stats from last year..and they go undefeated...no way they cant give it to him

I think Lewis has the chance to absolutely dominate the game. He has 2 seasons to do it though, so if he doesn't win this year, he will definitely at least push hard on Ingram. He will definitely be the 2011 favorite.

gibby08

^^^

I agree

I also think Locker is going to have a huge year

gibby08

Mulva...you've got Pryor way way too high

DeyDurkie5

you have Brantley way way way to high

gibby08

Did you see any of the Florida Spring Game??

Brantley will be a frontrunner next year...and if they let him throw it...he will contend this year

ytownfootball

A junior QB on a pre-season ranked #2 team if they continue to win will get better consideration than your placement for him at #8 where you have him listed too low.

I know you can't stand OSU but logic dictates a higher look, considering end of the season health problems and a good Rose Bowl win.

gibby08

What has he done to warrant being in the Top 5????

NOTHING

ytownfootball

Brantley hasn't played a fucking down and you have him ahead of him...

Trueblue23

ytownfootball wrote: Brantley hasn't played a fucking down and you have him ahead of him...

LMAO

You beat me to it man.

gibby08

I'm basing that on the fact that Brantley is a much better pure QB than Terrelle Pryor and the fact that his coaches will more so allow him to use his skills than Pryor's will

LJ

Well, the 2011 frontrunners will be Pryor and Lewis, so that only leaves 1 spot for someone to have a chance at winning. As of right now you have to put Barkley in that spot, playing in that USC system and the skills he has and the media's love for USC. Brantley shouldn't be in the discussion until he wins some games this year.

Trueblue23

Gibby this might be the dumbest pile of shit I've ever read.

gibby08

LJ wrote: Well, the 2011 frontrunners will be Pryor and Lewis, so that only leaves 1 spot for someone to have a chance at winning. As of right now you have to put Barkley in that spot, playing in that USC system and the skills he has and the media's love for USC. Brantley shouldn't be in the discussion until he wins some games this year.

Not even close...

Trueblue23

I'm honestly not sure if I've read anything more homeristic than this.

DeyDurkie5

gibby08 wrote: I'm basing that on the fact that Brantley is a much better pure QB than Terrelle Pryor and the fact that his coaches will more so allow him to use his skills than Pryor's will

are you really that ignorant? like come on dude, you are putting a person who hasn't played shit in the hiesman frontrunner position? and basing it on the fact you think he is a great qb? Get the fuck off this message board if you are going to spew this shit and actually believe it.

gibby08

What about this...

I think we can all agree Pryor thinks alot of himself

What if he has a pretty good season..and is projected as a 2nd round pick?? He will bolt so fucking fast your head will spin..and his being a frontrunner for 2011 goes right out the window

This year..his entire campaign hinges on one date...September 11. He has a shitty game...he has no chance

LJ

gibby08 wrote:
LJ wrote: Well, the 2011 frontrunners will be Pryor and Lewis, so that only leaves 1 spot for someone to have a chance at winning. As of right now you have to put Barkley in that spot, playing in that USC system and the skills he has and the media's love for USC. Brantley shouldn't be in the discussion until he wins some games this year.
Not even close...

Good argument. Pryor will lead the Buckeyes to another 1 or 2 loss season this year with even better stats than he had in 09, to say that, going into his senior year he won't be in the top 3 in the Heisman race is ridiculous. Lewis is a beast and will be in the top 3. As of RIGHT NOW, for 2011, the only other person out there that really shows that "flash" (who has experience and has actually played a whole season, and in big games) is Barkley. Brantley hasn't done 1 damn thing. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. What are his career stats? Tot.: 28 18 235 64.3 1 3 38 163.00

There is nothing, NOTHING, that puts him in the convo right now. Absolutely nothing.

gibby08

DeyDurkie5 wrote:
gibby08 wrote: I'm basing that on the fact that Brantley is a much better pure QB than Terrelle Pryor and the fact that his coaches will more so allow him to use his skills than Pryor's will
are you really that ignorant? like come on dude, you are putting a person who hasn't played shit in the hiesman frontrunner position? and basing it on the fact you think he is a great qb? Get the fuck off this message board if you are going to spew this shit and actually believe it.

That statement was in regards to this year...I said he will be afront runner in 2011. Learn to fucking read

LJ

gibby08 wrote: What about this...

I think we can all agree Pryor thinks alot of himself

What if he has a pretty good season..and is projected as a 2nd round pick?? He will bolt so fucking fast your head will spin..and his being a frontrunner for 2011 goes right out the window

This year..his entire campaign hinges on one date...September 11. He has a shitty game...he has no chance

CBA issues, no one will be bolting in 2011

gibby08

LJ wrote:
gibby08 wrote:
LJ wrote: Well, the 2011 frontrunners will be Pryor and Lewis, so that only leaves 1 spot for someone to have a chance at winning. As of right now you have to put Barkley in that spot, playing in that USC system and the skills he has and the media's love for USC. Brantley shouldn't be in the discussion until he wins some games this year.
Not even close...
Good argument. Pryor will lead the Buckeyes to another 1 or 2 loss season this year with even better stats than he had in 09, to say that, going into his senior year he won't be in the top 3 in the Heisman race is ridiculous. Lewis is a beast and will be in the top 3. As of RIGHT NOW, for 2011, the only other person out there that really shows that "flash" (who has experience and has actually played a whole season, and in big games) is Barkley. Brantley hasn't done 1 damn thing. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. What are his career stats? Tot.: 28 18 235 64.3 1 3 38 163.00

There is nothing, NOTHING, that puts him in the convo right now. Absolutely nothing.

What puts Terrelle Pryor in the Top 5?? NOTHING

sleeper

I always hate how the Heisman winner from last year is automatically the front runner for next year's Heisman. There will NEVER be another 2-time Heisman winner as long as Archie Griffin is still alive, I mean if Tebow(whom the media sucked off for 4 years) can't do it, then certainly Ingram won't.

As far as Pryor, I could see it if Ohio State goes undefeated, and I think Locker, Lewis, and Mallet all are in it as well.

Brantley? LOL

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