Homosexuality vs. religion

• FairwoodKing

  The good news for the gay world is that today's younger generation is much more tolerant than the older generations. Everybody in the young world has friends that are gay or black or Jewish or Latino or Asian or whatever. This is a very good sign. Twenty or thirty years from now, we gays and lesbians will have our rights. I just hope I'm around to see it.
• newarkcatholicfan

  

  God's gift to straight people,AIDS.
• Society

  FairwoodKing wrote: The good news for the gay world is that today's younger generation is much more tolerant than the older generations. Everybody in the young world has friends that are gay or black or Jewish or Latino or Asian or whatever. This is a very good sign. Twenty or thirty years from now, we gays and lesbians will have our rights. I just hope I'm around to see it.

  Do you consider gay people a race? You are gay. You don't deserve any special rights. What rights do you want that you don't already have?
• FairwoodKing

  Society wrote:

  FairwoodKing wrote: The good news for the gay world is that today's younger generation is much more tolerant than the older generations. Everybody in the young world has friends that are gay or black or Jewish or Latino or Asian or whatever. This is a very good sign. Twenty or thirty years from now, we gays and lesbians will have our rights. I just hope I'm around to see it.

  Do you consider gay people a race? You are gay. You don't deserve any special rights. What rights do you want that you don't already have?

  I just gave an example. Can't you read?
• FairwoodKing

  When I was a young man, I was a devout Christian. I was also miserable. I was a total closet case and I kept trying to be straight. When I turned 30, I accepted what I was and did something about it. The first crack in my religion was when I finally understood that the Bible was completely wrong about me. I had no choice in what I was. I was just as gay when I was in the closet in my 20's as I was as a sexually active man in my 30's. At no point did I ever chose to be gay.
  
  I started studying science in college and I realized how naive the Bible is about all sorts of things. As I grew older, I found many other fallacies in the Bible. This included a bevy of things that were factually wrong. I also started realizing that we are temporary. I no longer believe in the hereafter. I now realize that when we are dead, we are truly dead. It's lights out. There is no heaven, no hell, no judgment day, no nothing.
  
  I do not consider homosexuality to be a sin because I do not believe in sin. I do very much believe in right and wrong, and I try to live a moral life. But the Bible is not a part of it.
  
  I am the worst type of atheist for you to deal with because I am a former believer who finally saw the light. I am very comfortable with my belief system and have no intention of changing. Homosexual acts are not morally wrong if they are between two consenting adults. You will never convince me otherwise.
• Society

  FairwoodKing wrote: When I was a young man, I was a devout Christian. I was also miserable. I was a total closet case and I kept trying to be straight. When I turned 30, I accepted what I was and did something about it. The first crack in my religion was when I finally understood that the Bible was completely wrong about me. I had no choice in what I was. I was just as gay when I was in the closet in my 20's as I was as a sexually active man in my 30's. At no point did I ever chose to be gay.
  
  I started studying science in college and I realized how naive the Bible is about all sorts of things. As I grew older, I found many other fallacies in the Bible. This included a bevy of things that were factually wrong. I also started realizing that we are temporary. I no longer believe in the hereafter. I now realize that when we are dead, we are truly dead. It's lights out. There is no heaven, no hell, no judgment day, no nothing.
  
  I do not consider homosexuality to be a sin because I do not believe in sin. I do very much believe in right and wrong, and I try to live a moral life. But the Bible is not a part of it.
  
  I am the worst type of atheist for you to deal with because I am a former believer who finally saw the light. I am very comfortable with my belief system and have no intention of changing. Homosexual acts are not morally wrong if they are between two consenting adults. You will never convince me otherwise.

  You are full of so many contradictions it's not even worth to deal with. Go on being gay. You talk of not believing in right and wrong, yet you try and say you live a moral life. No you don't.
• FairwoodKing

  Society wrote:

  FairwoodKing wrote: When I was a young man, I was a devout Christian. I was also miserable. I was a total closet case and I kept trying to be straight. When I turned 30, I accepted what I was and did something about it. The first crack in my religion was when I finally understood that the Bible was completely wrong about me. I had no choice in what I was. I was just as gay when I was in the closet in my 20's as I was as a sexually active man in my 30's. At no point did I ever chose to be gay.
  
  I started studying science in college and I realized how naive the Bible is about all sorts of things. As I grew older, I found many other fallacies in the Bible. This included a bevy of things that were factually wrong. I also started realizing that we are temporary. I no longer believe in the hereafter. I now realize that when we are dead, we are truly dead. It's lights out. There is no heaven, no hell, no judgment day, no nothing.
  
  I do not consider homosexuality to be a sin because I do not believe in sin. I do very much believe in right and wrong, and I try to live a moral life. But the Bible is not a part of it.
  
  I am the worst type of atheist for you to deal with because I am a former believer who finally saw the light. I am very comfortable with my belief system and have no intention of changing. Homosexual acts are not morally wrong if they are between two consenting adults. You will never convince me otherwise.

  You are full of so many contradictions it's not even worth to deal with. Go on being gay. You talk of not believing in right and wrong, yet you try and say you live a moral life. No you don't.

  I have never contradicted myself on here. I do believe in right and wrong, but I do not use the Bible as a guide. I can think for myself. You should try it sometime.
• FairwoodKing

  I just heard on ABC News that some American Christians have gone to Uganda and have stirred the pot so much about gays that the Ugandan government may pass a law that would put gays to death. People sheltering gays would be thrown in jail. Here is the link:
  
  http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/anti-homosexuality-bill-uganda-global-uproar/story?id=10045436
  
  One of the American preachers said he wanted his anti-gay message to be heard throughout the world.
  
  This is the kind of bullshit we're fighting. It is the preacher and the Ugandan leaders who should be punished.
• WeAreNC

  So I take it you won't be visiting Uganda anytime soon?
• Society

  FairwoodKing wrote: I just heard on ABC News that some American Christians have gone to Uganda and have stirred the pot so much about gays that the Ugandan government may pass a law that would put gays to death. People sheltering gays would be thrown in jail. Here is the link:
  
  http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/anti-homosexuality-bill-uganda-global-uproar/story?id=10045436
  
  One of the American preachers said he wanted his anti-gay message to be heard throughout the world.
  
  This is the kind of bullshit we're fighting. It is the preacher and the Ugandan leaders who should be punished.

  The article brought up some good points. Good for them for standing up for what is right.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  WeAreNC wrote: So I take it you won't be visiting Uganda anytime soon?

  I hate to say it, but I lol'ed
• newarkcatholicfan

  

  Gotta love the Ugandan government if they put this in to play.
• FairwoodKing

  newarkcatholicfan wrote: Gotta love the Ugandan government if they put this in to play.

  What kind of asshole comment is that???
  
  Killing people for what they are is not a laughing matter. If these damn preachers had their way, there would be the same laws in the United States.
  
  It is people like me who are going to fight to see that this country never becomes another Uganda!
• Society

  FairwoodKing wrote:

  newarkcatholicfan wrote: Gotta love the Ugandan government if they put this in to play.

  What kind of asshole comment is that???
  
  Killing people for what they are is not a laughing matter. If these damn preachers had their way, there would be the same laws in the United States.
  
  It is people like me who are going to fight to see that this country never becomes another Uganda!

  Nope, not a laughing matter, but a serious one.
• GoPens

  

  newarkcatholicfan wrote: God's gift to straight people,AIDS.

  Seriously. It's sad and hard to believe that a human being could actually say something like this. I'm speechless. You do know that straight people get AIDS too? Jackass.
• WeAreNC

  yes they do. From Blood transfusions, dirty needles. but not from taking it up the ass..
• GoPens

  

  WeAreNC wrote: yes they do. From Blood transfusions, dirty needles. but not from taking it up the ass..

  Who cares how you get it? Apparently only fucking homophobic fucking morons.
• justincredible

  

  WeAreNC wrote: yes they do. From Blood transfusions, dirty needles. but not from taking it up the ass..

  Are you kidding?
• WeAreNC

  Don't hate. Appreciate!
• justincredible

  

  WeAreNC wrote: Don't hate. Appreciate!

  Seems like all the hate is coming from you (and your bro).
• WeAreNC

  LOL. Why would I hate someone who is gay.. Thats more women for straight guys. Besides if someone is gay that is their business. It truly has no effect on my life. What I don't like though is hearing a gay guy talk with their lisp or whatever it's called when they know the person they are talking to is obviously straight. I joke on here.. in this thread just for reaction as I think a lot of people do..
• DeyDurkie5

  

  WeAreNC wrote: LOL. Why would I hate someone who is gay.. Thats more women for straight guys. Besides if someone is gay that is their business. It truly has no effect on my life. What I don't like though is hearing a gay guy talk with their lisp or whatever it's called when they know the person they are talking to is obviously straight. I joke on here.. in this thread just for reaction as I think a lot of people do..

  It seems like you hate gay people in almost every post you have made on this thread. And let's not think for a second you can actually pull a chick lol
• WeAreNC

  Durkie. I am the reason your mom left your dad. Now please deny that you come from a broken home now..
• DeyDurkie5

  

  WeAreNC wrote: Durkie. I am the reason your mom left your dad. Now please deny that you come from a broken home now..

  It amazes me people like you actually exist lol
• WeAreNC

  Denial is the 1st phase.