Archive

Marijuana: By the numbers

  • Gardens35
    ...No posts yet about how "I'm a better driver after a couple joints."
  • Fab1b
    Look anyone that says it doesn't impair judgement is wrong! However having partaken in both drinking and pot no one will ever be able to convince me that pot is worse! Drinking is way more harsh on the body and judgement and it isn't even close!
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
  • CinciX12
    rookie_j70 wrote: if pot is legalized, just htink how much buisness taco bell and dennys would do?
    Thats crazy. Denny's? Not a fan. IHOP all the way.
  • tcarrier32
    RelsonGracieBJJ wrote:
    krazie45 wrote:
    NNN wrote:No deaths from tobacco either, since it's impossible to overdose on it.

    Do you really want to go down that road?
    Tobacco is a legal substance. You can't overdose from twinkies either...and they're also a legal substance.

    This argument is pretty easy to make these days. We're talking about an 80 year old policy based on 80 year old ideals backed by 80 year old science...not to mention the corruption involved from paper companies.

    It's a substance that's less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes and quite frankly the number of people being incarcerated is ridiculous and costing taxpayers money.
    LESS HARMFUL? lol..

    http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/marijuana.htm

    Short-term Hazards include:
    •Anxiety and paranoia
    •Impaired memory
    •Difficulty in thinking
    •Learning difficulties
    •Lack of attention and focus
    •Poor driving skills

    Long-Term Hazards Include:
    •Respiratory problems
    •Heightened risk of infections, especially the lungs
    •Poor short-term recall
    •Inability to shift attention normally
    •Inability to understand complex information
    •An increased risk of developing lung, head and neck cancers
    •Lack of motivation
    •Decreased sperm count in men
    •Irregular menstruation in women
    im assuming you have no idea what you're talking about. im not even assuming. i know you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

    good try though buddy. maybe next year you can think on your own :)
  • CinciX12
    Lol, anxiety? False. I do it to get rid of anxiety?

    And all the long term ones other than respiratory issues are totally fucking retarded and have no basis whatsoever. I'm not even a guy that uses it frequently at all. Sometimes less than once a month. The people that they observe lack of motivation in, had none to begin with, as well as poor short term recall.
  • Gardens35
    Fab1b wrote: Look anyone that says it doesn't impair judgement is wrong! However having partaken in both drinking and pot no one will ever be able to convince me that pot is worse! Drinking is way more harsh on the body and judgement and it isn't even close!
    Doesn't much matter to me whether marijuana is legalized or not but I'd like to read some opinion on when "impaired judgment" is a positive.....regardless of the substance.
  • lhslep134
    Gardens35 wrote:
    Fab1b wrote: Look anyone that says it doesn't impair judgement is wrong! However having partaken in both drinking and pot no one will ever be able to convince me that pot is worse! Drinking is way more harsh on the body and judgement and it isn't even close!
    Doesn't much matter to me whether marijuana is legalized or not but I'd like to read some opinion on when "impaired judgment" is a positive.....regardless of the substance.

    If the bitch is ugly.... DUH
  • justincredible
    Gardens35 wrote:
    Fab1b wrote: Look anyone that says it doesn't impair judgement is wrong! However having partaken in both drinking and pot no one will ever be able to convince me that pot is worse! Drinking is way more harsh on the body and judgement and it isn't even close!
    Doesn't much matter to me whether marijuana is legalized or not but I'd like to read some opinion on when "impaired judgment" is a positive.....regardless of the substance.
    Then let's just make alcohol illegal again.
  • Gardens35
    lhslep134 wrote:
    Gardens35 wrote:
    Fab1b wrote: Look anyone that says it doesn't impair judgement is wrong! However having partaken in both drinking and pot no one will ever be able to convince me that pot is worse! Drinking is way more harsh on the body and judgement and it isn't even close!
    Doesn't much matter to me whether marijuana is legalized or not but I'd like to read some opinion on when "impaired judgment" is a positive.....regardless of the substance.

    If the bitch is ugly.... DUH
    ...:D
  • lhslep134
    I'm under the influence right now and I can tell you the following things:

    My judgement is definitely impaired because I'm not as good at Modern Warfare 2
    However, MW2 is infinitely more fun right now
    Typing is just as easy as it is when I'm sober
    I don't want to shoot myself or anyone around me
    I've thought I was going to die from how much I smoked, but nah, I'm fine
    The Cavs game is making me more fucking pissed off than normal
    I won't have a hangover after I'm no longer high
    I spent less money than I would have had to spend on alcohol to feel the same amount of "fucked up ness", unless we're talking about natty, but I'll take an 8th of this fun stuff over natty any day.



    You guys be the judge for yourself whether it should be legalized, I've made my point.
  • RelsonGracieBJJ
    Illegal drugs are for LOSERS..
  • DeyDurkie5
    RelsonGracieBJJ wrote: Illegal drugs are for LOSERS..
    and wannabe cagefighters is for fags so we're even
  • Gardens35
    lhslep134 wrote: I'm under the influence right now and I can tell you the following things:

    My judgement is definitely impaired because I'm not as good at Modern Warfare 2
    However, MW2 is infinitely more fun right now
    Typing is just as easy as it is when I'm sober
    I don't want to shoot myself or anyone around me
    I've thought I was going to die from how much I smoked, but nah, I'm fine
    The Cavs game is making me more fucking pissed off than normal
    I won't have a hangover after I'm no longer high
    I spent less money than I would have had to spend on alcohol to feel the same amount of "fucked up ness", unless we're talking about natty, but I'll take an 8th of this fun stuff over natty any day.



    You guys be the judge for yourself whether it should be legalized, I've made my point.
    Good Post, just be cool..........heard someone is following you.
  • Gardens35
    RelsonGracieBJJ wrote: Illegal drugs are for LOSERS..
    Think it through 'Relson............If marijuana were legal there would less losers.:)
  • kritzell
    rookie_j70 wrote: if pot is legalized, just htink how much buisness taco bell and dennys would do?
  • Chesapeake
    There are marijuana deaths now that I think about it.

    People like Big Worm are out there.

    Cornbread fronts you a sack and you don't pay for it, cornbread shoots your ass.
  • Writerbuckeye
    The legalization arguments aside, if it WERE completely legal, there's no way the amounts of money being discussed in this topic would hold true.

    The free market would drive the price of this waaaaaay down -- hell, anyone could grow it. Unless of course you're going to use the force of government to keep the cost artificially high (pun intended) by only allowing so many to grow, manufacture and produce it.
  • lhslep134
    Writerbuckeye wrote: Unless of course you're going to use the force of government to keep the cost artificially high (pun intended) by only allowing so many to grow, manufacture and produce it.
    That's what they would try to do at first.
  • Swamp Fox
    Writerbuckeye, are you talking about Marijuana or the automobile industry?
  • krazie45
    Writerbuckeye wrote: The legalization arguments aside, if it WERE completely legal, there's no way the amounts of money being discussed in this topic would hold true.

    The free market would drive the price of this waaaaaay down -- hell, anyone could grow it. Unless of course you're going to use the force of government to keep the cost artificially high (pun intended) by only allowing so many to grow, manufacture and produce it.
    Not necessarily true...you can grow your own tobacco too, but most people find it easier to just go to the store and buy a pack.

    The biggest issue with this whole discussion is that the government can arrest you even if it is legal in your state and you have the proper credentials for it. As someone with conservative political beliefs I feel that this is absolutely atrocious. Someone could be in California, have their medicinal card, and still be arrested by the DEA. Dispensaries are raided all of the time for absolutely no reason. This should be an issue that states should decide by themselves.

    Let's cut the bullshit and get to the truth. It's illegality comes down to some pockets getting lighter if it were legalized. In the beginning it was the paper industry that was losing out to hemp. Now it's both the pharmacutical industry that doesn't want to see such an easy to obtain medicine cut into their market on their non-natural drugs that are more addicting and more expensive, as well as the prison industry (referring to those who own prisons)/law enforcement who would see their numbers go down if they were incarcerating less individuals.

    With all of that said, I would say that it's probable that we could see an end to prohibition within the next 30 years based upon how things have drastically changed in the last 30 years. The "reefer madness" generation is starting to die off and people are become more knowledgeable on the subject, it's just a question of whether or not the political forces at be can continue to have their way.
  • krazie45
    RelsonGracieBJJ wrote:
    krazie45 wrote:
    NNN wrote:No deaths from tobacco either, since it's impossible to overdose on it.

    Do you really want to go down that road?
    Tobacco is a legal substance. You can't overdose from twinkies either...and they're also a legal substance.

    This argument is pretty easy to make these days. We're talking about an 80 year old policy based on 80 year old ideals backed by 80 year old science...not to mention the corruption involved from paper companies.

    It's a substance that's less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes and quite frankly the number of people being incarcerated is ridiculous and costing taxpayers money.
    LESS HARMFUL? lol..

    http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/marijuana.htm

    Short-term Hazards include:
    •Anxiety and paranoia
    •Impaired memory
    •Difficulty in thinking
    •Learning difficulties
    •Lack of attention and focus
    •Poor driving skills

    Long-Term Hazards Include:
    •Respiratory problems
    •Heightened risk of infections, especially the lungs
    •Poor short-term recall
    •Inability to shift attention normally
    •Inability to understand complex information
    •An increased risk of developing lung, head and neck cancers
    •Lack of motivation
    •Decreased sperm count in men
    •Irregular menstruation in women
    Most of those "effects" or from smoking the substance. Making it into food (brownies), tea, or using a vaporizer eliminates most of the effects you have listed.

    Meanwhile, let's compare those side effects to alcohol or cigarettes or better yet some of the prescription drugs that are out there.
  • justincredible
    RelsonGracieBJJ wrote: Illegal drugs are for LOSERS..
    I'd like to see some stats to back this up.
  • Heretic
    There really is no logical reason why marijuana is still illegal, especially considering how cigs and alcohol both are legal products and it's hard for me to look at any argument against as being anything more than a more verbose way of saying, "Well I don't like it and that's that!"
  • Glory Days
    justincredible wrote:
    Gardens35 wrote:
    Fab1b wrote: Look anyone that says it doesn't impair judgement is wrong! However having partaken in both drinking and pot no one will ever be able to convince me that pot is worse! Drinking is way more harsh on the body and judgement and it isn't even close!
    Doesn't much matter to me whether marijuana is legalized or not but I'd like to read some opinion on when "impaired judgment" is a positive.....regardless of the substance.
    Then let's just make alcohol illegal again.
    people can drink alcohol without the intent to get drunk, its hard for college age people to understand that, but it does happen. i dont know anyone who would smoke marijuana not to feel the effect of the drug.
    krazie45 wrote: as well as the prison industry (referring to those who own prisons)/law enforcement who would see their numbers go down if they were incarcerating less individuals.
    most people are not incacerated for marijuana. normally it takes smuggling a few hundred pounds or marijuana in combination with a weapon or something to get locked up for it.