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sleeper

Laley23;1851474 wrote:How hard/easy will this get through the Senate?

DOA.

fish82

It'll end up in conference committee...but it in the end, it will be signed by the POTUS.

CenterBHSFan

fish82;1851481 wrote:It'll end up in conference committee...but it in the end, it will be signed by the POTUS.

Will Otrap have to include this in his signature too? lol

QuakerOats

From Team Trump:

Your House Majority just voted to REPEAL the disastrous train wreck known as ObamaCare.

Your representatives listened to your opinions and concerns and united members of our Party around a conservative bill that shreds ObamaCare to pieces.

And most importantly, Congress will NO LONGER be exempt from our health care laws. Your representatives will be forced to follow the same laws as We The People.

ppaw1999

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-chant-hey-hey-hey-goodbye-at-house-republicans-after-they-pass-healthcare-bill/ar-BBAKyJo?li=BBnb7Kz

Glad we have such adults running our government. What could possibly go wrong?

BoatShoes

I think the CBO score makes it die in the senate with Jeff Flake, Dean Heller and Rob Portman leading the objections to the middle and Rand Paul leading the objections to the right.

But hey my political predictions have not been strong lately - did not think Justin Amash, Jim Jordan or Warren Davidson would vote for any bill that preserved any semblance of Obamacare like the AHCA.

sleeper

BoatShoes;1851496 wrote:I think the CBO score makes it die in the senate with Jeff Flake, Dean Heller and Rob Portman leading the objections to the middle and Rand Paul leading the objections to the right.

But hey my political predictions have not been strong lately - did not think Justin Amash, Jim Jordan or Warren Davidson would vote for any bill that preserved any semblance of Obamacare like the AHCA.

Not to mention it's unlikely to be considered a Budget reconciliation and therefore won't get 60 votes to avoid a filibuster.

We actually haven't seen a full text of the bill to get a better sense of what's in it. This is most definitely a PR move by GOP members of the house to appease the ignorant GOP base.

gut

If this ends up being fillibustered, Repubs might sit there and say "we had a plan, but those doggone Democrats obstructed us in the Senate"....outside chance Repubs pick-up the seats in 2018 to get 60 in the Senate.

It's really gotten quite comical. The two parties are basically the same, but there is absolutely no bi-partisanship. Zero.

BoatShoes

Shortly after the repeal vote President Trump welcomed the Prime Minister of Australia:

"Deductibles are going to come down. It's going to be fantastic health care," Trump said of the Republican-backed American Health Care Act. "Right now Obamacare is failing."

"I shouldn't say this to our great gentleman and my friend from Australia, because you have better health care than we do," Trump continued. "We're going to have great health care very soon."

I will say this...the guy makes me legit lol.

ppaw1999

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/gop-health-care-plan-differs-obamacare-183807936--abc-news-topstories.html

I would think the Democrats might be secretly hoping this will eventually pass. If the Republicans are forced to own it, it might be their downfall.

SportsAndLady

If you get on Facebook you will soon learn that being a woman is a pre existing condition, the new health care bill supports rape culture, and there's a war against vaginas.

What a time to be alive

isadore

Hours after scoring a victory in the House to effectively kill Obamacare, US President Donald Trump praised Australia's universal health care system during a press conference with Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull."It's going to be fantastic health care," Trump said, referring to his new health care plan. "I shouldn't say this to our great gentleman and my friend from Australia because you have better health care than we do."
US Senator Bernie Sanders quickly picked up on the remark which came after Trump's new bill passed by a handful of votes. The new law still has to pass the US Senate.

"Well Mr President, you're right, in Australia and every other major country on Earth they guarantee health care to all people. They don't throw 24 million people off health insurance. So maybe when we get to the Senate we should start off with looking at the Australian health care system," Sanders told CNN's Anderson Cooper.
Australia has a universal health care system, known as Medicare, which gives citizens free access to doctors and public hospitals paid for by the government.

Spock

isadore;1851561 wrote:Hours after scoring a victory in the House to effectively kill Obamacare, US President Donald Trump praised Australia's universal health care system during a press conference with Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull."It's going to be fantastic health care," Trump said, referring to his new health care plan. "I shouldn't say this to our great gentleman and my friend from Australia because you have better health care than we do."
US Senator Bernie Sanders quickly picked up on the remark which came after Trump's new bill passed by a handful of votes. The new law still has to pass the US Senate.

"Well Mr President, you're right, in Australia and every other major country on Earth they guarantee health care to all people. They don't throw 24 million people off health insurance. So maybe when we get to the Senate we should start off with looking at the Australian health care system," Sanders told CNN's Anderson Cooper.
Australia has a universal health care system, known as Medicare, which gives citizens free access to doctors and public hospitals paid for by the government.

Dear Bernie, the government doesnt pay for anything.....we do. Nothing is free here

CenterBHSFan

SportsAndLady;1851557 wrote:If you get on Facebook you will soon learn that being a woman is a pre existing condition, the new health care bill supports rape culture, and there's a war against vaginas.

What a time to be alive

My facebook is much more advanced than yours! It says that penises and vaginas are societal constructs.

QuakerOats

SportsAndLady;1851557 wrote:If you get on Facebook you will soon learn that being a woman is a pre existing condition, the new health care bill supports rape culture, and there's a war against vaginas.

What a time to be alive

I hear ya.

QuakerOats

I'm starting to think that Jonathan Gruber may be the biggest liar of them all.

isadore

Spock;1851567 wrote:Dear Bernie, the government doesnt pay for anything.....we do. Nothing is free here

Dear Donald, now that you have admitted the superiority of the single payer health care system you should have the courage to support it for America.

BoatShoes

Spock;1851567 wrote:Dear Bernie, the government doesnt pay for anything.....we do. Nothing is free here

Said loud and proud without any irony by the publicly employed gym teacher who has attempted to boast about his earnings and recently complained about employee evaluations.

BoatShoes

QuakerOats;1851579 wrote:I'm starting to think that Jonathan Gruber may be the biggest liar of them all.

Did you hear a recent interview or something?

QuakerOats

Merely looking back at all his deceit and lies to advance his/this Marxist policy. And the media NEVER called him or the administration on any of it ...............and all of it has turned out to be complete lies. Simply incredible.

gut

SportsAndLady;1851557 wrote:If you get on Facebook you will soon learn that being a woman is a pre existing condition, the new health care bill supports rape culture, and there's a war against vaginas.

What a time to be alive

The Dems still haven't learned......more educated white women voted for Trump than Hillary. Identity politics works mostly on stupid people. And while there are a lot of stupid people, SJW's and delicate flowers aren't enough to win elections.

isadore

gut;1851632 wrote:The Dems still haven't learned......more educated white women voted for Trump than Hillary. Identity politics works mostly on stupid people. And while there are a lot of stupid people, SJW's and delicate flowers aren't enough to win elections.

gosh a ruddies not quite
large majority of the most educated people voted for Clinton and
51% of white college degreed women voted for Clinton

http://www.people-press.org/2016/08/18/1-voters-general-election-preferences/

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/01/us/politics/white-women-helped-elect-donald-trump.html?_r=0

jmog

gut;1851632 wrote:The Dems still haven't learned......more educated white women voted for Trump than Hillary. Identity politics works mostly on stupid people. And while there are a lot of stupid people, SJW's and delicate flowers aren't enough to win elections.

I saw a clip on MSNBC yesterday that had two African-American women professors from some university say that educated white women are misogynistic and they actually perpetuate the patriarchy of our society...

So white women hate women...that was their sole reasoning as to why educated white women voted for Trump over Hillary.

CenterBHSFan

Of course the democrats haven't learned.
When Diane Feinstein says things like "I don't know what the 13 white men... " it's pretty blatantly ingrained at this point. Probably harder for them to quit this bad habit, much like quitting heroin or cigarettes or even alcohol for addicts.

But what the hell does this bill have to do with anything about color of skin? Or sex, for that matter?

ppaw1999

CenterBHSFan;1851908 wrote:Of course the democrats haven't learned.
When Diane Feinstein says things like "I don't know what the 13 white men... " it's pretty blatantly ingrained at this point. Probably harder for them to quit this bad habit, much like quitting heroin or cigarettes or even alcohol for addicts.

But what the hell does this bill have to do with anything about color of skin? Or sex, for that matter?

Maybe as the bill now stands some of the people most likely to be adversely affected are the poor, people of color and women?

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