Disgusted with Progressives
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gutLMFAO....there are twice as many govt jobs in this country as there are manufacturing jobs. Think about that.
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gut
They love that. It's easier to feel self-important when you're constantly condemning people for outrageous behavior (same goes for the religious right, which ironically is a frequent target of the angry liberal).like_that;1846709 wrote:I can't imagine living life and finding ways to get offended. It's gotta be exhausting.
I've always laughed at how there are left-wing monitors of Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and other conservative news and politicians. The right doesn't seem to do that (or not nearly as much, or not in an organized manner). I guess that plays into the whole psychological need to be outraged. -
QuakerOatssleeper;1846768 wrote:Exactly. Conservatives would love regulation when it comes to what people do in the bedroom or the bathroom but god forbid we protect our water supply from pollutants. Who needs clean drinking water when gays are allowed to love each other and be recognized as equals by the state?
But I won't derail this thread any further. Carry on crying about liberals demanding respect, equal treatment, and embracing science instead of some invisible unicorn. How horrible! Extremely regressive ideology the left has become; life was better back in the 1900's when women couldn't vote and candles were the preferred light source. MAGA MGAMA MAGA!11!1!
Troll baby, troll .............. -
like_that
Pretty good point. I don't see many right nut jobs monitoring salon, vox etc. as much as their counter parts do to conservative sources.gut;1846814 wrote:They love that. It's easier to feel self-important when you're constantly condemning people for outrageous behavior (same goes for the religious right, which ironically is a frequent target of the angry liberal).
I've always laughed at how there are left-wing monitors of Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and other conservative news and politicians. The right doesn't seem to do that (or not nearly as much, or not in an organized manner). I guess that plays into the whole psychological need to be outraged. -
CenterBHSFan
It's because the left highly esteems themselves as being the watchdogs of society. Just ask them, they'll tell you! -
sleeper
Right. Let's just collectively ignore bigotry and violence against women/minorities. We should definitely be on the high horse like conservatives who are okay with Mr. ***** Grabber fleecing their hard earned tax dollars to golf at his private resort every weekend. We are so sorry for not green lighting a President under FBI investigation for election fraud by a foreign power. Those damn liberals, putting country over party; how dare they!CenterBHSFan;1846818 wrote:It's because the left highly esteems themselves as being the watchdogs of society. Just ask them, they'll tell you! -
sleeper
The left also doesn't put a fake news website CEO to the NSC and Chief of Staff.gut;1846814 wrote:They love that. It's easier to feel self-important when you're constantly condemning people for outrageous behavior (same goes for the religious right, which ironically is a frequent target of the angry liberal).
I've always laughed at how there are left-wing monitors of Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and other conservative news and politicians. The right doesn't seem to do that (or not nearly as much, or not in an organized manner). I guess that plays into the whole psychological need to be outraged. -
CenterBHSFan
So, you just agreed with me. Okay.sleeper;1846819 wrote:Right. Let's just collectively ignore bigotry and violence against women/minorities. We should definitely be on the high horse like conservatives who are okay with Mr. ***** Grabber fleecing their hard earned tax dollars to golf at his private resort every weekend. We are so sorry for not green lighting a President under FBI investigation for election fraud by a foreign power. Those damn liberals, putting country over party; how dare they! -
sleeper
It's called sarcasm. Learn to love it, it's the only way to stay sane given our current leadership.CenterBHSFan;1846823 wrote:So, you just agreed with me. Okay. -
like_that
I.E. sleeper in this thread :RpS_lol:gut;1846814 wrote:
I've always laughed at how there are left-wing monitors of Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and other conservative news and politicians. The right doesn't seem to do that (or not nearly as much, or not in an organized manner).
sleeper;1846821 wrote:The left also doesn't put a fake news website CEO to the NSC and Chief of Staff. -
QuakerOatssleeper;1846821 wrote:The left also doesn't put a fake news website CEO to the NSC and Chief of Staff.
Mad, because for the first time in 5 decades the media and big government might not be able to conspire together on a daily basis. -
sleeper
The irony of this is incredible. Enjoy your delusional little world of Fox News propaganda. Hitler would be proud.QuakerOats;1846829 wrote:Mad, because for the first time in 5 decades the media and big government might not be able to conspire together on a daily basis. -
gut
Right, Obama didn't give Valerie Jarrett an official position even though everyone knows she was calling the shots.sleeper;1846821 wrote:The left also doesn't put a fake news website CEO to the NSC and Chief of Staff. -
CenterBHSFan
I know what it was. But, an agreement is still an agreement! You're making progress :RpS_w00t:sleeper;1846824 wrote:It's called sarcasm. Learn to love it, it's the only way to stay sane given our current leadership. -
sleeper
Save your tin foil hat conspiracy theories for Breitbart or Fox News.gut;1846844 wrote:Right, Obama didn't give Valerie Jarrett an official position even though everyone knows she was calling the shots. -
like_that
Got it.sleeper;1846862 wrote:I have nothing. -
BoatShoes
I have consumed Conservative media my entire life. Some of my earliest memories are of my grandma listening to Rush while baby sitting me. The entire business model is based on the injustice wrought upon conservative America by the elite liberal establishment. The Conservative Justice Warrior movement of perpetual grievance by the established left that emerged in the 80's predates even the social justice warrior movement of perpetual grievance that emerged on campus in the 90's and after.gut;1846814 wrote:They love that. It's easier to feel self-important when you're constantly condemning people for outrageous behavior (same goes for the religious right, which ironically is a frequent target of the angry liberal).
I've always laughed at how there are left-wing monitors of Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and other conservative news and politicians. The right doesn't seem to do that (or not nearly as much, or not in an organized manner). I guess that plays into the whole psychological need to be outraged.
I mean are you being for real here? Conservative media lives on bashing everything in the conventional media as liberally biased and everything left politics in America as basically a fifth column. -
BoatShoes
You really believe this or just trolling the troll?gut;1846844 wrote:Right, Obama didn't give Valerie Jarrett an official position even though everyone knows she was calling the shots. -
BoatShoes
Case and point - and this is essentially dogma within conservative media IMHO. Even the good ones like Michael Medved and Hugh Hewitt will this type of card when they start getting the RINO heat.QuakerOats;1846829 wrote:Mad, because for the first time in 5 decades the media and big government might not be able to conspire together on a daily basis. -
BoatShoes
This reminds me of the old story of Aristide the Just. Unlike, say, a modern politician, the story was that he was the most Just man in Athens. But he lost an election and when helping a blind man he asked him who he voted for (Not him). When he asked the pauper why he replied "Because they call him 'The Just'"CenterBHSFan;1846818 wrote:It's because the left highly esteems themselves as being the watchdogs of society. Just ask them, they'll tell you!
A decent parable for some of the holier-than-thou perception of today's democratic party IMHO. -
BoatShoes
Constantly condemning Democrats, progressives and liberals for behavior and policies goes far behind just the "religious right". Indeed, I think it summarizes most of conservatism in America - take a look this forum.gut;1846814 wrote:They love that. It's easier to feel self-important when you're constantly condemning people for outrageous behavior (same goes for the religious right, which ironically is a frequent target of the angry liberal).
And of course the left's answer is simply to constantly condemn conservatives e.g. no ideas on how to fix o-care just laughing at the GOP being unable to construct policy since they can't just get away with bitching about Obummer all day. -
BoatShoes
So you acknowledge you argument is absurd. As you readily admit, the incredibly wealthy welfare states of the world are not failing in any respect and so you have to appeal to the same bogeymen they've warned of those same 100 years - (and mind you, you are someone who has claimed to believe in the technological singularity which renders the argument of future resource constraints utterly moot if you believe it)HitsRus;1845014 wrote:I LOL'ed at this.
Sure they are better off than a hundred years ago when they were fighting World Wars! Yeah, a defense budget eats up a lot of "butter". So, if these welfare states are surviving ( and many are not) it is because their defense security is being financed and propped up by the American military umbrella. It is just another case of socialism "working" until other people's money runs out.( In this case, the other people being the United States taxpayer) It would be curious how well and long their social budget would last if they had to pay for their defense without the security of the U.S. backing them up. -
BoatShoes
Because you can replace assembly line workers with robots.gut;1846791 wrote:LMFAO....there are twice as many govt jobs in this country as there are manufacturing jobs. Think about that.
And that doesn't even include military and civilian contractors.
Not sure yet how the public will react to robo-soldiers, robo-cops and robo-regulators -
CenterBHSFan
For much of the loss of manufacturing jobs, I think the blame HAS to be laid at the feet of the unions. It has been some time since the unions were concerned only with fair wages to match the job and safety for the workers.
Instead, it has concerned itself with, in many cases, disproportionately high wages, holiday bonuses, perks (what some places call "occurances: where you can just not show up without a call-in and the amount depends on the company), increasing vacation days, gimme's, bribes to show up for work (attendance bonus), clothing allowances, etc.
It is a natural progression for union workers to, over time, become entitled for more and more while doing less and less to earn it. You can call it entitlement, training, conditioning, whatever. It all amounts to the same result. Not only that, but also over time the workers begin to not be able to distinguish what is actually contractual and what is "implied" in the contract.
And let's not forget about the worst of it - seniority.
I've seen it all my life.
NAFTA was just the meat in the stew that made it possible for companies to begin dismantling the cages that they had allowed themselves to be trapped in. This is absolutely the companies' fault for bowing to the unreasonable pressure of threatened strikes and other hissy fits.
It truly was only a matter of time before people holed up in cubicles figured out that "globalism" simply meant that they could move jobs to Mexico and other places and in the long term, save the company money, if not face. Right or wrong, the bottom line will always win or the job/s just ends for everybody.
The sad and terrible thing is the loss of local economies. The vast tax benefits that leave communities. The flooding of unemployment. The rise of welfare. The unwillingness of other companies to move into the void because they know what's waiting on them if they try.
What's left? McDonald's or any food industry, department stores (the mom and pop shops are gone, so you get Walmart). And people who are absolutely unable/unwilling to evolve and conform to circumstance. -
QuakerOatsBoatShoes;1846904 wrote:Case and point - and this is essentially dogma within conservative media IMHO. Even the good ones like Michael Medved and Hugh Hewitt will this type of card when they start getting the RINO heat.
Dogma .................as in reality. It has been fully proven that the mainstream media is 90% liberal and is the lapdog of big government. Hardly worth debating any longer.