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  • Iliketurtles
    friendfromlowry;1854244 wrote:Betsy DeVos spoke at FSU's graduation. I'd probably walk out on her but that's about it.
    She also spoke at Bethune Cookman (HBCU) and the students boo'd, turned their backs, and some almost left. But I agree she is definitely the worst.
  • Heretic
    gut;1854246 wrote:I don't think walking out or protesting at a graduation is appropriate. Families are there to see their kids graduate - nobody wants to be subjected to political bullshit on that occasion.

    And I thought Trump's remarks at that graduation were wrong, too.
    If no one wants to be subjected to political bullshit, the best way to accomplish that is to not have politicians (regardless of party affiliation) speaking at these occasions.

    I mean, what sort of inspiration can they give our nation's youth? "If you become really, really rich (and good luck with that, what with all the loans you'll have to be paying off, amirite), you can use that money to buy your way into a big office and then sacrifice your personal views and opinions to completely align yourself with BIG PARTY VALUES, likely screwing over the people you allegedly represent somehow along the way! JUST LIKE US!!!!"
  • fish82
    Heretic;1854361 wrote:If no one wants to be subjected to political bullshit, the best way to accomplish that is to not have politicians (regardless of party affiliation) speaking at these occasions.

    I mean, what sort of inspiration can they give our nation's youth? "If you become really, really rich (and good luck with that, what with all the loans you'll have to be paying off, amirite), you can use that money to buy your way into a big office and then sacrifice your personal views and opinions to completely align yourself with BIG PARTY VALUES, likely screwing over the people you allegedly represent somehow along the way! JUST LIKE US!!!!"
    Agreed. No shortage of "inspirational" people from other walks of live to choose from.
  • gut
    Heretic;1854361 wrote:If no one wants to be subjected to political bullshit, the best way to accomplish that is to not have politicians (regardless of party affiliation) speaking at these occasions.
    They like to have successful people speak with name recognition. Politicians are generally successful people, even if not necessarily financial.

    And their speeches don't have to be political, and shouldn't be. It's not a campaign event. But I completely disagree they have nothing inspiring or sage to share.
  • sleeper
    CenterBHSFan;1854317 wrote:Explain.
    Well for starters you take fringe ideology like antifa and apply it to the majority of liberals so you can pound your chest about how awful the party is. No surprise here, this is the Fox News playbook and has been for years so tell me more about your libertarian thinking.
  • fish82
    sleeper;1854379 wrote:Well for starters you take fringe ideology like antifa and apply it to the majority of liberals so you can pound your chest about how awful the party is. No surprise here, this is the Fox News playbook and has been for years so tell me more about your libertarian thinking.
  • iclfan2
    sleeper;1854379 wrote:Well for starters you take fringe ideology like antifa and apply it to the majority of liberals so you can pound your chest about how awful the party is. No surprise here, this is the Fox News playbook and has been for years so tell me more about your libertarian thinking.
    LOL... you mean like how the left applies the KKK and other neo-nazi groups to the GOP? Derp
  • sleeper
    iclfan2;1854383 wrote:LOL... you mean like how the left applies the KKK and other neo-nazi groups to the GOP? Derp
    If the shoe fits. You can't equate antifa with Donald Trump when antifa isn't in the White House and Trump is.

    Trump is the GOP, sorry!
  • iclfan2
    sleeper;1854386 wrote:If the shoe fits. You can't equate antifa with Donald Trump when antifa isn't in the White House and Trump is.

    Trump is the GOP, sorry!
    ? I'm not sure what that means. My point is that the left doesn't get to equate the right to the KKK and then have a problem with Antifa being equated to the left. Neither has to do with who is in the White House.
  • sleeper
    iclfan2;1854390 wrote:? I'm not sure what that means. My point is that the left doesn't get to equate the right to the KKK and then have a problem with Antifa being equated to the left. Neither has to do with who is in the White House.
    The left doesn't have to go to extreme groups like the KKK to find abhorrent and regressive ideology within the party. Just look at the current GOP President, elected by the people and by the party.
  • iclfan2
    sleeper;1854394 wrote:The left doesn't have to go to extreme groups like the KKK to find abhorrent and regressive ideology within the party. Just look at the current GOP President, elected by the people and by the party.
    noted
  • sleeper
    QuakerOats;1854335 wrote:You cannot please everyone. By the time one graduates from college they should have matured to a level where respect for others is commonplace, regardless if you happen to disagree with them politically, and you will act accordingly. If, after the ceremony, you wish to express your viewpoints regarding the remarks made by the speaker, then write a letter to the student newspaper etc... Doing otherwise merely points to the fact that those who walk out are little more than spoiled, immature, brainwashed brats.
    Right. I'm sure if you were alive in the 60's you'd be telling MLK to protest in an appropriate manner by writing a letter to the newspaper.

    Conservatives should be applauding these students for exercising their 1st amendment rights. People walked out on Obama all the time and no one even cared; not even Obama. You're brainwashed, but you knew that.
  • Automatik
    Except bringing up people walking out on Obama doesn't fit the far right's narrative. Or Trump's number of golf rounds. Or Trump welching on promises. #nothingtoseehere
  • QuakerOats
    sleeper;1854396 wrote:Right. I'm sure if you were alive in the 60's you'd be telling MLK to protest in an appropriate manner by writing a letter to the newspaper.

    Conservatives should be applauding these students for exercising their 1st amendment rights. People walked out on Obama all the time and no one even cared; not even Obama. You're brainwashed, but you knew that.

    People walked out on obama .........................you're kidding ...........................who knew?
  • wkfan
    QuakerOats;1854398 wrote:People walked out on obama .........................you're kidding ...........................who knew?
    Trick question.....no one knew because it never hit the MS , if it ever happened.

    I find one reference to a GOP senator walking out of the National Prayer Breakfast in 2012 due to BHO's reference to 'partisan politics' in his speech......otherwise, crickets.

    Could be that those who were in opposition to what BHO was doing were generally respectful enough of the office to stay put.

    Decorum is lost.....
  • sleeper
    Automatik;1854397 wrote:Except bringing up people walking out on Obama doesn't fit the far right's narrative. Or Trump's number of golf rounds. Or Trump welching on promises. #nothingtoseehere
    Or the newest one, Trump bashing Obama for bowing to the Saudi's while Trump does the same thing on his trip.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/20/trump-mocked-obama-for-bowing-to-a-saudi-king-and-then-he/?utm_term=.ac9085ef853b
  • like_that
    sleeper;1854409 wrote:Or the newest one, Trump bashing Obama for bowing to the Saudi's while Trump does the same thing on his trip.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/20/trump-mocked-obama-for-bowing-to-a-saudi-king-and-then-he/?utm_term=.ac9085ef853b
    So both are spineless? Got it.
  • sleeper
    like_that;1854412 wrote:So both are spineless? Got it.
    Spineless? No, it's a sign of respect in that culture. I just find it funny that the Fox News contingent is silent on this while they spent days railing on about how much of a chump Obama was for doing the same thing.
  • like_that
    sleeper;1854420 wrote:Spineless? No, it's a sign of respect in that culture. I just find it funny that the Fox News contingent is silent on this while they spent days railing on about how much of a chump Obama was for doing the same thing.
    It's 2017 and you just realized both parties and both sides of the media are hypocrites? Congrats dude.
  • sleeper
    like_that;1854423 wrote:It's 2017 and you just realized both parties and both sides of the media are hypocrites? Congrats dude.
    They aren't equivalent. Very few media outlets are covering this with WaPo only covering it in relation to Trump's hypocrisy, not Fox News' hypocrisy.

    Christ, you are dense.
  • like_that
    sleeper;1854425 wrote:They aren't equivalent. Very few media outlets are covering this with WaPo only covering it in relation to Trump's hypocrisy, not Fox News' hypocrisy.

    Christ, you are dense.
    I think the post below, pretty much sums up this post. Enjoy!
    sleeper;1854233 wrote:You've been brainwashed. Good luck!
  • Heretic
    Sleeper's as good at making the left look like insufferable whiners as QQ is at making the right seem like deranged blind partisans. I'm actually impressed because I know that can't be an easy feat.
  • sleeper
    like_that;1854427 wrote:I think the post below, pretty much sums up this post. Enjoy!
    Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

    Nevertheless, it's seems rather stupid to spend the days of you life crying because I switched political viewpoints over time and then also complain that I am ideologically brainwashed.

    Which is it?
  • sleeper
    Heretic;1854433 wrote:Sleeper's as good at making the left look like insufferable whiners as QQ is at making the right seem like deranged blind partisans. I'm actually impressed because I know that can't be an easy feat.
    I'll take this as a compliment even though these are none of my intentions. My intentions are to engage in reasonable and informed debate with the people of my home state. The problem is, none of you have shown any interest or intellectual capability to participate, so I drop to the LCD and shoot the fish in the barrel.

    I enjoy it more than I should.
  • like_that
    sleeper;1854436 wrote:Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

    Nevertheless, it's seems rather stupid to spend the days of you life crying because I switched political viewpoints over time and then also complain that I am ideologically brainwashed.

    Which is it?
    Neither. If you want to dedicate all this time to being an insecure caricature, more power to you. It just brings the lulz to poke holes in all of your flawed logic, by using your own logic/words.