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  • Con_Alma
  • sleeper
    gut;1847812 wrote:LMFAO. I read that. What did you think I needed educated on, or do you not actually understand the issue you've pretended to research?
    You don't understand PP, their revenue streams, or how Medicaid works.

    I guess we should strip Medicaid of vaccination services because they cause Austism, amiright? If vacinnes are profitable, they can become a stand alone business. And Pharmacies shouldn't sell condoms because if condoms are so profitable then why can't we just open condom only shops? I also don't think grocery stores should be able to sell bananas because some people are allergic and bananas are profitable so they should have no problem opening up banana stands across the country.

    The party of small government wants to use big government to influence people's individual healthcare choices right down to their provider. Enjoy!
  • gut
    ^^^^yep, PP is just an abortion clinic that provides other services to dupe donors and sponge off of Medicaid
  • gut
    sleeper;1847820 wrote:You don't understand PP, their revenue streams, or how Medicaid works.
    You've made it abundantly clear that PP can't survive without Medicaid....but Medicaid isn't being used to subsidize abortion. Mmmkkkay.


    There are abortion providers who don't take Medicaid, and there are comprehensive care clinics that don't perform abortions. Both those models can work, so maybe PP just needs better management to figure out how it's done.
  • sleeper
    gut;1847818 wrote:So finally we get around to you agreeing that Medicaid does, in fact, subsidize abortion.
    It does not. Medicaid provides a place for women to make their own healthcare decisions about their own body. If they choose to have an abortion, they can pay for the cost of that with their own money.

    Carry on with your Fox News misinformation campaign though!
  • sleeper
    gut;1847821 wrote:^^^^yep, PP is just an abortion clinic that provides other services to dupe donors and sponge off of Medicaid
    3% of their services go to safe and legal abortion. Yeah definitely an abortion clinic.

    Facts don't care about your feelings.
  • sleeper
    gut;1847822 wrote:You've made it abundantly clear that PP can't survive without Medicaid....but Medicaid isn't being used to subsidize abortion. Mmmkkkay.
    They can survive without Medicaid reimbursements. That isn't the issue; they would be not able to serve the low income women who need healthcare services the most because they would not be able to afford to give away pap smears for free.
  • sleeper
    Con_Alma;1847819 wrote:
    And how many of these accept Medicaid? How many of these are in low income communities?

    Nice chart from the Heritage Foundation! Very unbiased, would read again.
  • like_that
    Sleeper now cares about poor people? :RpS_lol:
  • sleeper
    like_that;1847828 wrote:Sleeper now cares about poor people? :RpS_lol:
    Yes how horrible of me to advocate for our nation's most vulnerable populations?

    I guess we should just let Republicans tell them to "Pull themselves up by the bootstraps just like our President did!
  • gut
    sleeper;1847826 wrote:And how many of these accept Medicaid? How many of these are in low income communities?
    So Medicaid does fund PP and it's abortion services? Here you are, again, making the case that PP can't survive without Medicaid. Fungible.
  • gut
    like_that;1847828 wrote:Sleeper now cares about poor people? :RpS_lol:
    When you can't get a walk-in abortion down the street, you might miss Oprah.
  • like_that
    troll trash sleeper;1847829 wrote:Yes how horrible of me to advocate for our nation's most vulnerable populations?

    I guess we should just let Republicans tell them to "Pull themselves up by the bootstraps just like our President did!
    We already know you are a fraud and how you actually feel about poor people. Keep the fraud troll act though!
  • sleeper
    gut;1847830 wrote:So Medicaid does fund PP and it's abortion services? Here you are, again, making the case that PP can't survive without Medicaid. Fungible.
    PP can survive without Medicaid but it would not be able to serve the most vulnerable communities. This really isn't complicated but it doesn't agree with your Fox News generated hysteria to deny women access to care because they also provide safe and legal abortions.
  • sleeper
    like_that;1847833 wrote:We already know you are a fraud and how you actually feel about poor people. Keep the fraud troll act though!
    You're welcome to provide a meaningful contribution to this thread at any time.
  • BoatShoes
    Medicaid should also not cover Oral Contraceptions either since one of their mechanisms of action knowingly causes newly conceived human beings to fail to implant in the endometrium and die.

    Why do we allow our tax dollars to support this slaughter???
  • QuakerOats
    How much does personal responsibility cost? Zero.
  • BoatShoes
    QuakerOats;1847839 wrote:How much does personal responsibility cost? Zero.
    How much does failing to accept the world as it is and trying to come up with possible ways to solve problems?
  • like_that
    sleeper;1847837 wrote:You're welcome to provide a meaningful contribution to this thread at any time.
    I have. You are exposed as a fraud. I challenge you to take your own advice. Enjoy!
  • gut
    BoatShoes;1847838 wrote:Medicaid should also not cover Oral Contraceptions either since one of their mechanisms of action knowingly causes newly conceived human beings to fail to implant in the endometrium and die.

    One of several mechanisms, not the only one nor the primary one. And not universal to all oral contraceptives.

    And essentially the Hobby Lobby case.
  • Con_Alma
    sleeper;1847826 wrote:And how many of these accept Medicaid? How many of these are in low income communities?

    Nice chart from the Heritage Foundation! Very unbiased, would read again.
    You won't like the answers.
  • sleeper
    QuakerOats;1847839 wrote:How much does personal responsibility cost? Zero.
    I guess women who have been raped are responsible then. I guess victims of incest are irresponsible and should be punished accordingly.

    Women who use protection in the form of a condom and IUD should be forced into childbirth and 18 years of responsibility.

    An abortion is being personally responsible and understanding the consequences of your actions. It would be irresponsible to raise a child that you cannot provide for and if Republicans weren't so blinded by religion they would be 100% for abortion access and enhancing access to contraceptives.
  • gut
    Con_Alma;1847848 wrote:You won't like the answers.
    Abortion should be fast, convenient and free. Isn't that how the saying goes?
  • sleeper
    Con_Alma;1847848 wrote:You won't like the answers.
    Why not?
  • gut
    sleeper;1847851 wrote:I guess women who have been raped are responsible then. I guess victims of incest are irresponsible and should be punished accordingly.
    Don't worry, Medicaid already covers their abortion.