2016 Election Thread

• iclfan2

  

  Thanks for the well thought out response. And I don't think many people know anything about the EC, including myself apparently. If they would ever change that many, which as you say is nearly impossible, shit would probably hit the fan.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  like_that;1823743 wrote:+1, it shouldn't be that hard to comprehend.
  
  Not to mention the democrats don't give two shits either, they just pretend they do to get votes. But liberals (including coa) eat it up.
  
  For the record my mom is Muslim, she was ok with Trumps words, because she despises radical Islam. If she isn't offended, I am not going to go out of my way to get butt hurt. Just like 90% of native Americans say they aren't offended by "redskins." If they aren't offended why would I go out of my way to get offended?
  
  It must be exhausting for liberals to go out of their way to always get offended. If only they used they energy for something productive to society.

  1. That shows a profound lack of empathy. You clearly has never been targeted by such remarks, particularly by the now most powerful man in the world. When your family is in danger of being deported you don't have the luxury of "other" issues and when a major candidate uses your ethnicity as a campaign tool to rule up hate against you to win votes "other" issues are a bit hallow.
  
  2. Trump was incapable of talking policy specifics so the "focus on the issues" bullshit is just that.
  
  Oh and the "one Muslim I know wasn't offended so therefore it's ok" excuse is absurd.
• O-Trap

  

  iclfan2;1823816 wrote:Thanks for the well thought out response. And I don't think many people know anything about the EC, including myself apparently. If they would ever change that many, which as you say is nearly impossible, shit would probably hit the fan.

  No worries. Only reason I looked it up was that I'd heard someone say something similar when Gore lost to Bush 2. It seemed like a realistic idea until I looked it up and realized that the people on the EC itself are determined by the election.
  
  Man, if it happened, there would be a shakeup in the entire election system. The rioting we're seeing now would be a piss in the pond.
• BoatShoes

  like_that;1823743 wrote:+1, it shouldn't be that hard to comprehend.
  
  Not to mention the democrats don't give two shits either, they just pretend they do to get votes. But liberals (including coa) eat it up.
  
  For the record my mom is Muslim, she was ok with Trumps words, because she despises radical Islam. If she isn't offended, I am not going to go out of my way to get butt hurt. Just like 90% of native Americans say they aren't offended by "redskins." If they aren't offended why would I go out of my way to get offended?
  
  It must be exhausting for liberals to go out of their way to always get offended. If only they used they energy for something productive to society.

  Sadly Like_that I think a lot of liberals really think the SJW offended-rage machine really is important.
  
  One of the first articles I,saw after the election was a liberal journalist complaining that Trump's transition team was mostly white men.
  
  The protesters are yelling chants "racist, sexist not my president", etc.
  
  This is what they really believe IMHO and as a Democrat who believes the government can do things to make people's lives better they are parasites that drive normal people to vote GOP.
  
  They aren't pretending IMHO.
• O-Trap

  

  QuakerOats;1823772 wrote:Some colleges offering play time with coloring books and play-dough to help with depression ----- it is literally unfucking believable. What an embarrassment the coddled, the bozo parents, and colleges have become. Here is a letter that was sent to students at a grad school in Ohio ---- I kid you not. Imagine having costs built into tuition for all this bullshit, and it is rampant at every university: diversity departments, counseling departments, yada yada yada. This is the result of cultural marxism run amok; we should be ashamed we allowed it to happen, and parents should be admonished for not raising stronger and independent children.
  
  
  
  Students,
  I hope that you take the time to read Dr. xxxxx email to the community this afternoon reminding everyone of what we believe at XXXXXXX. I want to reinforce Dr. xxxxxx message and the mission of the Center for Student Wellness & Counseling Services. We believe in inclusivity and appreciate difference. We offer free, confidential and non-judgmental services to all XXXXXXXX students. If you find you are having difficulty with the election outcome and how you believe it may impact you or conversely, are experiencing negativity because of your political view, please know that you are welcome to schedule an appointment for these reasons or any other. Please email xxxxxxxxxxxx to schedule an appointment.
  

  
  
  Oh sweet Moses!
• O-Trap

  

  BoatShoes;1823828 wrote:Sadly Like_that I think a lot of liberals really think the SJW offended-rage machine really is important.
  
  One of the first articles I,saw after the election was a liberal journalist complaining that Trump's transition team was mostly white men.
  
  The protesters are yelling chants "racist, sexist not my president", etc.
  
  This is what they really believe IMHO and as a Democrat who believes the government can do things to make people's lives better they are parasites that drive normal people to vote GOP.
  
  They aren't pretending IMHO.

  There's a lot of truth baked into this post, I think. Particularly that part about driving normal people to vote GOP.
  
  Ultimately, I think this SJW movement's largest effect has been to help the GOP.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  BoatShoes;1823828 wrote:Sadly Like_that I think a lot of liberals really think the SJW offended-rage machine really is important.
  
  One of the first articles I,saw after the election was a liberal journalist complaining that Trump's transition team was mostly white men.
  
  The protesters are yelling chants "racist, sexist not my president", etc.
  
  This is what they really believe IMHO and as a Democrat who believes the government can do things to make people's lives better they are parasites that drive normal people to vote GOP.
  
  They aren't pretending IMHO.

  "If you're a Trump voter who is tired of being called a bigot, if you say you voted for him based on gun rights or economic issues, or because you think Hillary really was that awful, and in spite of his rhetoric, rather than because of it, I believe you. If you're in my life, I clearly don't think you're a vile, hateful person. But if you're now watching protests across the country and you don't understand why, or think they are just being sore losers, let me break something down for you. These people aren't just angry or sad that someone they didn't support won the election, they're scared.
  
  
  They're black Americans who hear talk of law and order and remember a racially charged stop and frisk program, or see an emboldened KKK holding a celebratory parade.
  
  
  They're Muslim Americans who worry that spitting in their face is now okay and violations of their rights to assemble and their rights to privacy are about to come.
  
  
  They're LGBT Americans who fear not just of the loss of marriage rights or restaurants gaining the right not to serve them, but of an administration that thinks it's more important to research electrocuting the gay out of them than AIDS.
  
  
  They're Hispanic and Latino Americans who are scared their children will be bullied in schools, and their families ripped apart while their culture is mocked.
  
  
  They're women who are wondering if we've normalized groping, and if their career endeavors will be judged by their face and body, and not their minds.
  
  
  I believe you when you say you didn't vote for any of these things. Most of America wasn't thrilled with the choices we had in this election. But if you didn't know that this is why they're protesting, if you think it's really just about free tuition or more government giveaways, then you, like the elite liberals you love to castigate, have also not been listening. If you're tired of being called a bigot, then you need to use the same voice you used on Tuesday and speak out against these things fully and clearly. It's not enough that you didn't say them yourself. You need to reassure your friends and family members who feel like they no longer have a seat at the table that you still stand with them, even if your priorities were different on Tuesday. If you aren't willing to do that, then you have no right to call for unity." - Michael Rex
  
• Commander of Awesome

  

  sleeper;1823558 wrote:Could it be that Trump voters were willing to ignore his bigotry and sexism

  "Trump voters were willing to ignore his bigotry and sexism"
  
  That's why we have a problem with Trump voters.
• FatHobbit

  

  I get why people are upset. I really do.
  
  But I find it HILARIOUS they made such a big deal out of him not immediately saying he would accept the election results and now they are not accepting the election results. There is a petition trying to get some of the electoral voters (whatever they are called) to change their votes.
• sleeper

  

  Commander of Awesome;1823833 wrote:"Trump voters were willing to ignore his bigotry and sexism"
  
  That's why we have a problem with Trump voters.

  But no problem with Hillary calling black people super predators or half of America deplorables.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  sleeper;1823835 wrote:But no problem with Hillary calling black people super predators or half of America deplorables.

  Link?
• Commander of Awesome

  

  FatHobbit;1823834 wrote:I get why people are upset. I really do.
  
  But I find it HILARIOUS they made such a big deal out of him not immediately saying he would accept the election results and now they are not accepting the election results. There is a petition trying to get some of the electoral voters (whatever they are called) to change their votes.

  Your comparing the media trying to drive clicks to protests? LOL
• QuakerOats

  Commander of Awesome;1823833 wrote:"Trump voters were willing to ignore his bigotry and sexism"
  
  That's why we have a problem with Trump voters.

  I don't think anybody "ignored" anything. I think a lot of people had to make a judgement they did not necessarily appreciate having to make, but decided that someone who might be a jackass womanizer was better than someone who was the most deceitful, corrupt, serial lying, money-laundering, predator-enabling, victim trasher in history.
  
  Not to mention the jackass womanizer will boost economic growth and opportunity, defend the border, and get the government off our backs.
  
  
  That's all.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  I don't mind protests that are peaceful and that have evidence of laws that are enacted to hurt them. Heck, I don't really mind protests against people worshipping cabbage, if that's all that they have to do in a day.
  
  I DO mind when protests turn into disruptive and destructive jackassery, costing innocent people time/money/effort to clean up after them, hurting people who have nothing to do with what somebody elses irrational mind convinces them of, and so on and so on.
  All the fearmongering that is gin'd up at this point is baseless as there hasn't been anything done (read as laws) to retract anybody's rights.
  
  What about the minorties that voted for Trump? Why are they not afraid? Where is their paranoia? Are they multiple versions of "Uncle Tom's" ?
  
  In the meantime, I think the stories and quotes that are linked (like CoA's above) are no different than the stories and quotes that QO links. At the end of the day, it's just tit for tat as far as I'm concerned.
  
  I don't like Trump. I didn't vote for him. But I'm not going to that I have wild fears, as a woman, because he's going to be President. I will never condone riots and destruction under the guise of "protesting". It's asinine.
  Now, if events take place that shows clear proof that there is an active engagement to harm/hinder minorities with laws or repealing rights, then my thoughts will change, most definitely. But in the meantime, stupidass comments won't make me lose any sleep tonight.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  QuakerOats;1823838 wrote:I don't think anybody "ignored" anything. I think a lot of people had to make a judgement they did not necessarily appreciate having to make, but decided that someone who might be a jackass womanizer was better than someone who was the most deceitful, corrupt, serial lying, money-laundering, predator-enabling, victim trasher in history.
  
  Not to mention the jackass womanizer will boost economic growth and opportunity, defend the border, and get the government off our backs.
  
  
  That's all.

  So true, trump doesn't embody deceit, corrupt, lying, shady money laundering, predator at all.
  
  The hypocrisy is laughable at best. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  CenterBHSFan;1823839 wrote:I don't mind protests that are peaceful and that have evidence of laws that are enacted to hurt them. Heck, I don't really mind protests against people worshipping cabbage, if that's all that they have to do in a day.
  

  Glad to hear you're ok with a fundamental right.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  Commander of Awesome;1823841 wrote:Glad to hear you're ok with a fundamental right.

  Of course. Otherwise I'm just a cold insensitive heartless, unempathic anarchist.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  CenterBHSFan;1823843 wrote:Of course. Otherwise I'm just a cold insensitive heartless, unempathic anarchist.

  Can still be an idiot.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  Commander of Awesome;1823844 wrote:Can still be an idiot.

  Yes. I don't think or have the feelings that you do. That certainly makes one an idiot. gawd!
• CenterBHSFan

  

  "I know you are but what am I?"
• Commander of Awesome

  

  CenterBHSFan;1823845 wrote:Yes. I don't think or have the feelings that you do. That certainly makes one an idiot. gawd!

  It's not that you have a different opinion, its the child like rationale you use to defend your decisions.
• QuakerOats

  Commander of Awesome;1823840 wrote:So true, trump doesn't embody deceit, corrupt, lying, shady money laundering, predator at all.
  
  The hypocrisy is laughable at best. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.

  
  Not sure; but somebody had to win. Maybe her selling out the State Dept for massive (tax free) personal enrichment, and deliberately covering it up and destroying evidence was the deciding factor.
  
  Had she been perfectly lily white, I could understand some disappointment, but she is a treasonous criminal.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  QuakerOats;1823849 wrote:Not sure; but somebody had to win. Maybe her selling out the State Dept for massive (tax free) personal enrichment, and deliberating covering it up and destroying evidence was the deciding factor.
  
  Had she been perfectly lily white, I could understand some disappointment, but she is a treasonous criminal.

  The FBI says otherwise, but you know better than an FBI Investigation? Sounds like you want to believe something despite the evidence. That can only be summed up as faith, I choose to live in reality.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  Commander of Awesome;1823848 wrote:It's not that you have a different opinion, its the child like rationale you use to defend your decisions.

  I could use more colloquial terms and phrasing if that would appease you. You propagate such a high standard, after all
• Commander of Awesome

  

  CenterBHSFan;1823851 wrote:I could use more colloquial terms and phrasing if that would appease you. You propagate such a high standard, after all

  lolk