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  • sleeper
    bases_loaded;1815294 wrote:In Obama’s second term, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton authorized the shipment of American-made arms to Qatar, a country beholden to the Muslim Brotherhood, and friendly to the Libyan rebels, in an effort to topple the Libyan/Gaddafi government, and then ship those arms to Syria in order to fund Al Qaeda, and topple Assad in Syria.
    Clinton took the lead role in organizing the so-called “Friends of Syria” (aka Al Qaeda/ISIS) to back the CIA-led insurgency for regime change in Syria.
    Under oath Hillary Clinton denied she knew about the weapons shipments during public testimony in early 2013 after the Benghazi terrorist attack.
    In an interview with Democracy Now, Wikileaks’ Julian Assange is now stating that 1,700 emails contained in the Clinton cache directly connect Hillary to Libya to Syria, and directly to Al Qaeda and ISIS.
    We've been selling weapons to everyone since the beginning of the MIC. Hillary is no different and Trump will be no different either.

    Nice try though. Care to comment on his pro-Nuclear proliferation stance and his lack of understanding of NATO, the most important alliance on the planet?
  • QuakerOats
    rocketalum;1815305 wrote:Or they're Drudging it back up because it's politically convenient and they need to deflect from Trump right now. But that's probably not the case when pillars of journalistic integrity like the Daily Mail UK, Drudge and Breitbart are breaking the story. Come on man for all your railing against the bias of the MSM, even if you've got some valid points, you discredit yourself entirely with BS like this.
    Drudge does not create content; the site is an amalgamation of news articles from nearly every media outlet including the Washington Times, Washington Post, NY Times, CBS, Reuters, LA Times, USA Today, NBC, American Thinker, National Review .............just to name a few appearing today.
  • SportsAndLady
    bases_loaded;1815301 wrote:Hypocrite. The dems are worse than blindly following Hillrod...they are enabling her to fix the system beyond repair. That's ok though?
    Wtf? Who said anything about the Democrats? Who said anything about Hillary?
  • bases_loaded
    SportsAndLady;1815308 wrote:Wtf? Who said anything about the Democrats? Who said anything about Hillary?
    You applaud the GOP brass who are proving to be nothing more than establishment brass. You are applauding the fact that a small group controls our vote rather than understanding only one candidate on stage was actually elected by the people.


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  • rocketalum
    QuakerOats;1815307 wrote:Drudge does not create content; the site is an amalgamation of news articles from nearly every media outlet including the Washington Times, Washington Post, NY Times, CBS, Reuters, LA Times, USA Today, NBC, American Thinker, National Review .............just to name a few appearing today.
    Ok it's probably just coincidence that a story that went nowhere in the 90's was pulled back to the surface 4 weeks before the election after what was unquestionably the worst week of the Trump campaign. This story for sure has legit legs.

    I guess I framed my issue poorly. It wasn't with the sources, it's that people fall for it as news. I disagree with most of your political leanings but thinking you're wrong doesn't equal thinking you're dumb. Thinking this is anything other than a deflection though is dumb.
  • thavoice
    If there was such a way to do a poll I would like to see a breakdown of voters whom are voting for Killary and Chump and why they are doing so......because they actually like and believe in the candidate or just because they are voting along their party line. I have to believe this election it is the latter moreso than ever.

    Just kills me this whole "locker room talk" and them asking these athletes if that is how they talk in the locker room. Um...that is just a stupid figure of speech. Ya dont talk like that in the locker room....ya talk nasty shit when you are around you buddies.

    Shit.....I imagine what most of us have said in private to buddies would come out we too would get blasted.
    oh..and women talk nasty shit as well intheir stupid little groups!
  • Fab4Runner
    I am 500 times more likely to vote for any GOP member who doesn't support Trump.
    thavoice;1815322 wrote:If there was such a way to do a poll I would like to see a breakdown of voters whom are voting for Killary and Chump and why they are doing so......because they actually like and believe in the candidate or just because they are voting along their party line. I have to believe this election it is the latter moreso than ever.

    Just kills me this whole "locker room talk" and them asking these athletes if that is how they talk in the locker room. Um...that is just a stupid figure of speech. Ya dont talk like that in the locker room....ya talk nasty shit when you are around you buddies.

    Shit.....I imagine what most of us have said in private to buddies would come out we too would get blasted.
    oh..and women talk nasty shit as well intheir stupid little groups!
    You and your buddies aren't running for president, and regardless, it's not funny to joke about sexual assault. Not to mention, it's not just talk with Trump. He actually assaults women in addition to joking about it.
  • Dr Winston O'Boogie
    QuakerOats;1815285 wrote:Hillary will not acknowledge stepson .............racist bigot

    CNN ORDERS BLACKOUT ON CLINTON 'SON'
    DANNEY LIVE INTERVIEW
    HILLARY IGNORES HIM


    LOL


    This stuff is completely nuts. It is why a huge part of this country despises right wing lunatics. You constantly talk about biased media. However all you seem to do is post links to stories on right wing mouthpieces like Breitbart, Alex Jones, etc. Those people are radicals just the same as the extreme liberals you rail against. Step back and look at what you're doing. Don't you see the irony?
  • Heretic
    QuakerOats;1815307 wrote:Drudge does not create content; the site is an amalgamation of news articles from nearly every media outlet including the Washington Times, Washington Post, NY Times, CBS, Reuters, LA Times, USA Today, NBC, American Thinker, National Review .............just to name a few appearing today.
    Yeah, Drudge just thinks that the concept that hurricanes are really dangerous is one of those liberal conspiracies.
  • thavoice
    Fab4Runner;1815325 wrote:I am 500 times more likely to vote for any GOP member who doesn't support Trump.



    You and your buddies aren't running for president, and regardless, it's not funny to joke about sexual assault. Not to mention, it's not just talk with Trump. He actually assaults women in addition to joking about it.
    I am not a Chump supporter, nor am I defending what he said.

    I just was bringing up the fact that the pundits are interviewing/asking former and current players if they talk like this in their locker room. Saw a blurb about it from Lebron today. Think they were even talking about it on Dan Patrick show today when an athlete was on if they talk like it in their locker room.

    I was just bringing up the point that "locker room" isnt literally in the locker room......
  • QuakerOats
    thavoice;1815329 wrote:I am not a Chump supporter, nor am I defending what he said.

    I just was bringing up the fact that the pundits are interviewing/asking former and current players if they talk like this in their locker room. Saw a blurb about it from Lebron today. Think they were even talking about it on Dan Patrick show today when an athlete was on if they talk like it in their locker room.

    I was just bringing up the point that "locker room" isnt literally in the locker room......
    Obviously, except when the media wants to make it fit their narrative.
  • thavoice
    QuakerOats;1815335 wrote:Obviously, except when the media wants to make it fit their narrative.
    Every time I hear these pundits ask an athlete if that is how they talk in their locker room I just wanna gouge out my ears. I guess I just "assumed" everyone realized that but they keeep on asking those athletes. Of course the athlete doesnt really lie about it....they dont talk like that in the locker room. I dont know.
  • QuakerOats
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;1815326 wrote:This stuff is completely nuts. It is why a huge part of this country despises right wing lunatics. You constantly talk about biased media. However all you seem to do is post links to stories on right wing mouthpieces like Breitbart, Alex Jones, etc. Those people are radicals just the same as the extreme liberals you rail against. Step back and look at what you're doing. Don't you see the irony?
    I have not posted anything from Breitbart in months, simply because half of you go nuts and shoot the messenger, without even considering the FACT that everything I posted by Breitbart has been true. Obviously liberals go nuts when they get scooped and the real news gets out without their filter.
  • Heretic
    QuakerOats;1815338 wrote:I have not posted anything from Breitbart in months, simply because half of you go nuts and shoot the messenger, without even considering the FACT that everything I posted by Breitbart has been true. Obviously liberals go nuts when they get scooped and the real news gets out without their filter.
    Nothing says "true" like stuff posted by a website whose chairman is on Trump's campaign, Captain Delusional.
  • QuakerOats
    thavoice;1815337 wrote:Every time I hear these pundits ask an athlete if that is how they talk in their locker room I just wanna gouge out my ears. I guess I just "assumed" everyone realized that but they keeep on asking those athletes. Of course the athlete doesnt really lie about it....they dont talk like that in the locker room. I dont know.

    You didn't get the memo obviously; discussing sexual prowess is hate speech and against the rules. Please fall in line with the thought police and adhere to liberal group think. And disregard the liberal entertainment industry cultural assault on women and police.
  • QuakerOats
    Heretic;1815340 wrote:Nothing says "true" like stuff posted by a website whose chairman is on Trump's campaign, Captain Delusional.
    Then go select a few articles that are not true and let us know when you find them.
  • Dr Winston O'Boogie
    QuakerOats;1815338 wrote:I have not posted anything from Breitbart in months, simply because half of you go nuts and shoot the messenger, without even considering the FACT that everything I posted by Breitbart has been true. Obviously liberals go nuts when they get scooped and the real news gets out without their filter.
    My point is that most of your links come from right wing sites - ones that are no less biased than the liberal sources you talk about.

    This Clinton love child stuff reminds me of the Birther movement - a bunch of ridiculous accusations with no basis in truth. It shows the mentality of the extreme right wing.
  • SportsAndLady
    bases_loaded;1815314 wrote:You applaud the GOP brass who are proving to be nothing more than establishment brass. You are applauding the fact that a small group controls our vote rather than understanding only one candidate on stage was actually elected by the people.


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    LOL wtf are you talking about?
  • Fab4Runner
    thavoice;1815329 wrote:I am not a Chump supporter, nor am I defending what he said.

    I just was bringing up the fact that the pundits are interviewing/asking former and current players if they talk like this in their locker room. Saw a blurb about it from Lebron today. Think they were even talking about it on Dan Patrick show today when an athlete was on if they talk like it in their locker room.

    I was just bringing up the point that "locker room" isnt literally in the locker room......
    thavoice;1815337 wrote:Every time I hear these pundits ask an athlete if that is how they talk in their locker room I just wanna gouge out my ears. I guess I just "assumed" everyone realized that but they keeep on asking those athletes. Of course the athlete doesnt really lie about it....they dont talk like that in the locker room. I dont know.
    Actually, athletes began speaking out on social media fairly quickly. No one had to ask them. I applaud them for making it clear that it's not okay to "joke" about sexually assaulting women.
    QuakerOats;1815341 wrote:You didn't get the memo obviously; discussing sexual prowess is hate speech and against the rules. Please fall in line with the thought police and adhere to liberal group think. And disregard the liberal entertainment industry cultural assault on women and police.
    Lol! Discussing sexual prowess. Unbelievable. Why do you think the world is full of pieces of shit like Brock Turner, Ma'lik Richmond and Trent Mays? Because Donald Trump, the man who wants to be President of the United States, and men like him tell them it's okay to grab a woman by her ***** and do anything they want to her.
  • O-Trap
    bases_loaded;1815314 wrote:You applaud the GOP brass who are proving to be nothing more than establishment brass. You are applauding the fact that a small group controls our vote rather than understanding only one candidate on stage was actually elected by the people.
    On one side, I have you championing Trump for being "elected by the people."

    On the other side, I have Quaker, who is blaming cross-overs for botching the primaries and giving the GOP the least-liked, easiest-to-vilify candidate in recent years.

    Which is it?

    And he's not doing what you're suggesting. He's applauding somebody for not just toeing the party line. That's not so common in today's political climate, so perhaps it should be applauded. Actually, the fact that people will vilify him for doing it makes it all the more worthy of praise, because it is costing him popularity within his own ranks. He's risking the future of his job to do it.

    Make no mistake, a lot of the guys coming out against Trump from the Republican camp are absolutely establishment men. However, that doesn't necessarily mean they do so because he's such a threat to they way the establishment has run things (he's not, as he's used it to his own personal benefit up to now).

    Have you ever seen The Rocketeer? At the end, cops and mobsters are on the same side, fighting a common enemy. Why? Were they secretly on the same side? No, but they acknowledged something that was bad for their country, so they wound up on the same side for that one event.

    Same idea.
    thavoice;1815322 wrote:Just kills me this whole "locker room talk" and them asking these athletes if that is how they talk in the locker room. Um...that is just a stupid figure of speech. Ya dont talk like that in the locker room....ya talk nasty shit when you are around you buddies.

    Shit.....I imagine what most of us have said in private to buddies would come out we too would get blasted.
    oh..and women talk nasty shit as well intheir stupid little groups!
    The objection is not the use of vulgar language. Nobody gives a shit about vulgar language.

    They care that he was shooting the shit about sexual assault.

    Here:
    [video=youtube;HpGuFO5-eXk][/video]
    SportsAndLady;1815349 wrote:LOL wtf are you talking about?
    Don't open that door.
  • Heretic
    QuakerOats;1815342 wrote:Then go select a few articles that are not true and let us know when you find them.
    It doesn't take much effort to type something like "breitbart lies" and just scan the examples of them posting whatever shit they can to fit their agenda...even if they have to alter the original shit so it turns into something that does fit their agenda. And that doesn't even count times they've been fooled by false reports or satirical sites. But, hey, if you want to pretend your tabloid news is reliable, whatever. Just means you're no better than someone who relies on HuffPo for their political information.

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/04/breitbart-news-doesnt-mind-lying-to-help-trump/

    http://mediamatters.org/research/2010/07/21/big-falsehoods-an-updated-guide-to-andrew-breit/168051

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/breitbart-falsely-reports-nevertrump-gop-senator-took-part-in-gun-control-filibuster/
  • bases_loaded
    A trump win upsets the system. A Hillary win keeps the corrupt two party system in tact. The end justifies the means in my opinion.


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  • SportsAndLady
    bases_loaded;1815370 wrote:A trump win upsets the system..


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    How? Repubs and dems aren't going away because Trump, a republican, won the election.

    Now maybe if Gary Johnson won, then sure.
  • O-Trap
    SportsAndLady;1815373 wrote:How? Repubs and dems aren't going away because Trump, a republican, won the election.

    Now maybe if Gary Johnson won, then sure.
    But Gary Johnson and Jill Stein can't win.

    Because nobody votes for them.

    Because they can't win.

    Because nobody votes for them.

    Because they can't win.
  • bases_loaded
    SportsAndLady;1815373 wrote:How? Repubs and dems aren't going away because Trump, a republican, won the election.

    Now maybe if Gary Johnson won, then sure.
    Because where do the Rinos go if they come out against the guy who is representing their party wins the whole damn thing? Now you have two parties within 1 which is chaos. The DNC could've had the same thing but Bernie sold out for a private plane and another beach house.


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