Trump vs. Hillary (NO OTHER OPTIONS)

• SportsAndLady

  

  bases_loaded;1815217 wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/
  
  go to town, it updates daily.

  Go to town?
  
  What exactly is all of this proving? That she's a corrupt politician? Everyone in the United States knows that. And she's still going to win in a landslide.
  
  I'm not sure why you and QO are constantly posting links to Hillary being corrupt, or being caught in a lie, or taking money from someone. We already know what she is. And guess what? It's STILL better than Donald fucking Trump.
• QuakerOats

  Fab4Runner;1815213 wrote:Looks like women disagree with you, Quaker.
  
  http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-women-are-defeating-donald-trump/
  
  I've been saying all along that other than straight, white men...who is going to vote for Donald Trump? Not women, not minorities, not gays. Straight white dudes. There are a lot of you, but not enough.

  
  I've been to multiple rallies; there are as many women in attendance as men, if not more. I have no idea whether that will translate into a win though. Trump has to overcome the media, the left-wing divide-and-conquer, voter fraud, and a stacked electoral map that heavily favors urban liberal group-think. Nearly impossible for an R to win (even for a squeaky clean guy like Romney).
• QuakerOats

  I posted the evidence previously on at least two occasions, O-Trap, specifically from the Youngstown Vindicator in the case of Mahoning County.
  
  Good luck.
• QuakerOats

  O-Trap;1815177 wrote:Sleeper mentioned that justices would "uphold" the rights of women. That can be the current ones. It doesn't necessitate any special rights bestowed, which is what your comment stated (see below).
  

  
  
  Sleeper implied that women have their own rights and that they need to be upheld. False premise etc.... The justices are charged with protecting the rights bestowed upon all Americans by our Creator and shielded from BIG GOVERNMENT overreach by the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
• QuakerOats

  http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/complete-list-of-wikileaks-podesta-email-dump/
  
  There are several things not to like about Trump, but Hillary is basically being revealed as an enemy of our republic.
• bases_loaded

  

  SportsAndLady;1815225 wrote:Go to town?
  
  What exactly is all of this proving? That she's a corrupt politician? Everyone in the United States knows that. And she's still going to win in a landslide.
  
  I'm not sure why you and QO are constantly posting links to Hillary being corrupt, or being caught in a lie, or taking money from someone. We already know what she is. And guess what? It's STILL better than Donald fucking Trump.

  But why is she better? Because Trump is an asshole? If he was really that bad, wouldn't we have something more than, he said bad things or called a fat chick fat?
• sleeper

  

  bases_loaded;1815232 wrote:But why is she better? Because Trump is an asshole? If he was really that bad, wouldn't we have something more than, he said bad things or called a fat chick fat?

  She's better because she understands how the world works, particularly how to deal with foreign leaders. She also understands the US nuclear policy and the NATO alliance.
  
  Trump wants South Korea and Japan to get their own nuclear weapons and wants engagement in a NATO conflict to be conditional. He also has claimed that he can get Mexico to pay for a $30B wall across the Southern border which will not only never happen but could damage permanently the relationship with Mexico.
  
  Is that better? I completely ignored personal traits and focused entirely on policy; Trump would be horrific in foreign affairs and is a huge threat to global stability.
• bases_loaded

  

  The only thing Hillary has proven was she could bolster our enemies by exchanging weapons for cash. White trash to Millionaire without working a day in her life. No thanks.
• QuakerOats

  sleeper;1815236 wrote:She's better because she understands how the world works, particularly how to deal with foreign leaders. She also understands the US nuclear policy and the NATO alliance.
  

  Yeah, she really knows how the world works; everything she has touched is burning.
  
  But as long as she keeps you "uninformed and compliant", she's got you.
  
  Congrats.
• Dr Winston O'Boogie

  

  QuakerOats;1815248 wrote:everything she has touched is burning.

  This could be said of any politician in history. The world is a complex place and few things get "solved" - it doesn't work like that. For example, the Middle East has been a simmering pot of hate and war for thousands of years. To think any American politician, regardless of party affiliation, has "caused" or "solved" it is preposterous.
  
  Hillary is not the greatest. But she has a infinitely better grasp on the issues that exist in this dangerous world. I am entirely convinced that Trump never gets specific with any of his "solutions" (i.e. "We're going to fix that.") because of the fact that he has absolutely no clue about the topics. It's not that he's dumb, it's that he simply doesn't know. His narcissism will not allow him to admit that. But all evidence suggests it to be true.
• sleeper

  

  bases_loaded;1815241 wrote:The only thing Hillary has proven was she could bolster our enemies by exchanging weapons for cash. White trash to Millionaire without working a day in her life. No thanks.

  ???
  
  Where is this coming from? Was this on Fox News?
• sleeper

  

  QuakerOats;1815248 wrote:Yeah, she really knows how the world works; everything she has touched is burning.
  
  But as long as she keeps you "uninformed and compliant", she's got you.
  
  Congrats.

  The hyperbole is real. You support a candidate who wants to arm South Korea and Japan with nuclear weapons and thinks NATO involvement is conditional.
  
  Nice words though! I for one am ready for our First Female President and her ultra liberal SCOTUS judges. Are you?
• Heretic

  

  sleeper;1815266 wrote:???
  
  Where is this coming from? Was this on Fox News?

  Sounds more like a Breitbart thing, where they simply say outlandish stuff because their readership will believe ANYTHING.
• rocketalum

  I'm totally fascinated by the possible fallout from this election (poli sci undergrad here). Trump has awoken and mobilized a population so large that the GOP cannot survive without it on the national stage. We could be on the verge of something rather historic in our two party system. As we've seen this week the GOP brass is actively pushing away Trump and by default his supporters. Does the GOP fracture as a result? The coalition of big business republicans, social conservatives, fiscal conservatives and this nationalist bunch Trump has brought to light seems untenable going forward.
  
  As an aside, While I'm not at all excited about waking up on November 9th to a Hillary Presidency, I am at like Christmas morning excitement level for waking up to the absolute shitshow of tears, blame, and excuses the Trump supporters will be.
• O-Trap

  

  QuakerOats;1815227 wrote:I posted the evidence previously on at least two occasions, O-Trap, specifically from the Youngstown Vindicator in the case of Mahoning County.
  
  Good luck.

  A couple things.
  
  1. If you did so, and I didn't see it, I certainly apologize for the desire for repetition. Do you know where you posted it?
  
  2. I don't really think a single locale or county is an accurate cross-section of the party, nationwide.
  
  3. I'm curious how they got the data on who switched parties, who voted, and how they all voted.
  

  QuakerOats;1815228 wrote:Sleeper implied that women have their own rights and that they need to be upheld. False premise etc.... The justices are charged with protecting the rights bestowed upon all Americans by our Creator and shielded from BIG GOVERNMENT overreach by the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

  He didn't imply that they have their own rights. He implied that they have rights. If I say that you have rights, I'm not saying you have your own rights. If I say white people have rights, I'm not saying only white people have rights. If I'm saying foreign-born citizens have rights, I'm not saying only foreign-born citizens have rights.
  
  You assumed that when he said the "rights of women," he was saying "the rights of only women."
  
  Justices are, indeed, charged with protecting the rights of all Americans. If one segment of the population either has their rights denied in practice or is at risk of having their rights taken away, it's not unreasonable to focus on the fact that the segment in question has rights.
• QuakerOats

  Heretic;1815274 wrote:Sounds more like a Breitbart thing, where they simply say outlandish stuff because their readership will believe ANYTHING.

  
  Marc Turi ..... destroyed by the obama administration and made the scapegoat in order to save themselves and help Clinton.
  
  
  http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/12/arms-dealer-says-administration-made-him-scapegoat-on-libya-operation-to-protect-clinton.html
  
  Just another victim of the left-wing zealots in the obama/clinton regime who continue to destroy people via any and all federal agencies.
  
  Carry on.......................................I'm sure somehow it is Breitbart's fault or .............
• QuakerOats

  sleeper;1815267 wrote:The hyperbole is real. You support a candidate who wants to arm South Korea and Japan with nuclear weapons and thinks NATO involvement is conditional.
  
  Nice words though! I for one am ready for our First Female President and her ultra liberal SCOTUS judges. Are you?

  
  She's batting .000 --------- go ahead and ride her horse; good for you.
• QuakerOats

  QuakerOats;1813586 wrote:
  
  Who dat?

  
  Hillary will not acknowledge stepson .............racist bigot
  
  CNN ORDERS BLACKOUT ON CLINTON 'SON'
  DANNEY LIVE INTERVIEW
  HILLARY IGNORES HIM
  
  
  LOL
  
  
  
• rocketalum

  The very same Drudge Report deemed this report "a cruel hoax by the mother" and "debunked and flunked by science" in a 1999 issue.
  
  [FONT=&quot]The DRUDGE REPORT has learned that 13-year old Danny Williams is now dealing with the news that Bill Clinton is not his father.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]"Danny is holding up fine ... doing quite well," a source close to the situation in Arkansas explained on Saturday.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]"For him, this was always just a search for the truth," the source added.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]In what now must be viewed as a cruel hoax by the boy's mother — Bobbie Ann Williams even gave a paid interview to PARAMOUNT's HARD COPY detailing her "relationship" with Bill Clinton — the story of sex for money that ended in pregnancy itself, in the end, was debunked and flunked by science.[/FONT]

  QuakerOats;1815285 wrote:Hillary will not acknowledge stepson .............racist bigot
  
  CNN ORDERS BLACKOUT ON CLINTON 'SON'
  DANNEY LIVE INTERVIEW
  HILLARY IGNORES HIM
  
  
  LOL
  
  
  

  
  
• bases_loaded

  

  sleeper;1815266 wrote:???
  
  Where is this coming from? Was this on Fox News?

  In Obama’s second term, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton authorized the shipment of American-made arms to Qatar, a country beholden to the Muslim Brotherhood, and friendly to the Libyan rebels, in an effort to topple the Libyan/Gaddafi government, and then ship those arms to Syria in order to fund Al Qaeda, and topple Assad in Syria.
  Clinton took the lead role in organizing the so-called “Friends of Syria” (aka Al Qaeda/ISIS) to back the CIA-led insurgency for regime change in Syria.
  Under oath Hillary Clinton denied she knew about the weapons shipments during public testimony in early 2013 after the Benghazi terrorist attack.
  In an interview with Democracy Now, Wikileaks’ Julian Assange is now stating that 1,700 emails contained in the Clinton cache directly connect Hillary to Libya to Syria, and directly to Al Qaeda and ISIS.
• QuakerOats

  rocketalum;1815292 wrote:The very same Drudge Report deemed this report "a cruel hoax by the mother" and "debunked and flunked by science" in a 1999 issue.
  
  [FONT=&amp]The DRUDGE REPORT has learned that 13-year old Danny Williams is now dealing with the news that Bill Clinton is not his father.[/FONT][FONT=&amp]"Danny is holding up fine ... doing quite well," a source close to the situation in Arkansas explained on Saturday.[/FONT][FONT=&amp]"For him, this was always just a search for the truth," the source added.[/FONT][FONT=&amp]In what now must be viewed as a cruel hoax by the boy's mother — Bobbie Ann Williams even gave a paid interview to PARAMOUNT's HARD COPY detailing her "relationship" with Bill Clinton — the story of sex for money that ended in pregnancy itself, in the end, was debunked and flunked by science.[/FONT]
  
  

  Actually, it wasn't as it turns out, according to Drudge itself the other day.
• QuakerOats

  bases_loaded;1815294 wrote:In Obama’s second term, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton authorized the shipment of American-made arms to Qatar, a country beholden to the Muslim Brotherhood, and friendly to the Libyan rebels, in an effort to topple the Libyan/Gaddafi government, and then ship those arms to Syria in order to fund Al Qaeda, and topple Assad in Syria.
  Clinton took the lead role in organizing the so-called “Friends of Syria” (aka Al Qaeda/ISIS) to back the CIA-led insurgency for regime change in Syria.
  Under oath Hillary Clinton denied she knew about the weapons shipments during public testimony in early 2013 after the Benghazi terrorist attack.
  In an interview with Democracy Now, Wikileaks’ Julian Assange is now stating that 1,700 emails contained in the Clinton cache directly connect Hillary to Libya to Syria, and directly to Al Qaeda and ISIS.

  
  
  Yeah, but that's not as important as dirty talk.
• SportsAndLady

  

  rocketalum;1815276 wrote:I'm totally fascinated by the possible fallout from this election (poli sci undergrad here). Trump has awoken and mobilized a population so large that the GOP cannot survive without it on the national stage. We could be on the verge of something rather historic in our two party system. As we've seen this week the GOP brass is actively pushing away Trump and by default his supporters. Does the GOP fracture as a result? The coalition of big business republicans, social conservatives, fiscal conservatives and this nationalist bunch Trump has brought to light seems untenable going forward.
  
  As an aside, While I'm not at all excited about waking up on November 9th to a Hillary Presidency, I am at like Christmas morning excitement level for waking up to the absolute shitshow of tears, blame, and excuses the Trump supporters will be.

  I actually applaud the GOP for coming out against Trump. I would be more pissed if they just blindly backed him because republican.
  
  I don't understand how someone could be "mad" at a party because they don't support someone. Not everyone is going to agree with every candidate or politician. It's okay. To just look at the GOP candidates and vote for any one of them because they have an R next to their name is exactly what is wrong with American democracy.
• bases_loaded

  

  Hypocrite. The dems are worse than blindly following Hillrod...they are enabling her to fix the system beyond repair. That's ok though?
• rocketalum

  Or they're Drudging it back up because it's politically convenient and they need to deflect from Trump right now. But that's probably not the case when pillars of journalistic integrity like the Daily Mail UK, Drudge and Breitbart are breaking the story. Come on man for all your railing against the bias of the MSM, even if you've got some valid points, you discredit yourself entirely with BS like this.