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  • O-Trap
    QuakerOats;1815088 wrote:I think it is the other way around. Morons or those living in a cocoon for the last 25 years might need liberal fact-checking, but most of us don't.

    We don't need fact-checking to know Hillary Clinton is a corrupt, serial-lying, money launderer. We know it from IRS records, State department pay-to-play, evidence destruction, and accomplices pleading the 5th amendment.

    We don't need fact-checking to know Hillary Clinton is a despicable being; enabling a predator; orchestrating the demonizing and destruction of victims of sexual assault and harassment.

    We don't need fact-checking to know Hillary Clinton has a private side - when she is giving 92 speeches to Wall St firms for tens of millions of dollars; and a public side, when she is lying to the American people about her own wealth creation and her deceitful position concerning investment banks and hedge funds.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that obamaKare is a complete disaster; the largest legislative and administrative fuck-up in the history of the nation, and also the biggest lie ever sold to the public by one party. She supports this train wreck, we know it.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that everything she touched in the Middle East is burning. Her record of failures is just that, a record; one that we know.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that she deliberately lied to the families of those killed in Benghazi (because of her ineptness), and she lied to the American people about it, again, and again.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that her open borders and amnesty are not in the best interest of our national defense.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that her own party and campaign is designed to keep the masses "uninformed and compliant".

    We don't need fact-checking to know that she was let off the hook by the FBI and the obama Justice Department for purely political reasons.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that she should be going to jail for (purposefully) mishandling classified information, just the like the Marine sergeant who is heading to jail for merely taking a few pictures of his submarine to show his family. We don't need fact-checking to understand this unconscionable double standard.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that we have zero economic growth and her policies will never turn that around.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that she will continue to use the EPA as the radical leftist's weapon of choice to crush our energy output.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that she will nominate radical leftists to the supreme court who will legislate from the bench for liberal causes, and to hell with the Constitution.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that the national debt has doubled to $20 trillion under obama, and she is obama III.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that our country is in serious trouble and it is headed in the wrong direction, as 70% of the public knows.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that our inner cities are disasters and the public education system that is entrenched therein, yet she wants and will deliver, more of the same.

    We don't need fact-checking to know she is on the wrong side of every major issue and challenge we face.

    Maybe some jackasses need fact-checking, and will politely suck up every lie she utters and do as she says and go to hillaryclintion.com for your propaganda bath, but most people know exactly what the hell is going on and are going to vote accordingly.

    Good luck.
    Exactly! Facts are dumb! We don't need to make sure that we form our positions based on sound evidence or accurate accounts! That's just silly.
  • like_that
    http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/300388-clinton-camp-appeared-to-have-contacts-with-doj-on-email-case

    Not to mention there are other emails where Hillary states that Qatar and Saudi are funding isis, yet her foundation still accepted donations from both countries.

    This is the type of shit that leads me to give anyone a pass if they vote trump because they despise Hillary. This is fucking absurd and any candidate not trump would have destroyed Hillary with all this shit.
  • fish82
    ppaw1999;1815106 wrote:By the way dumbass Politifact is nonpartisan. That means not biased or partisan to any political group. Just because something doesn't meet your narrow minded views that does not make them Liberal.
    Politifact is pretty far from non-partisan.

    Carry on.
  • ppaw1999
    fish82;1815112 wrote:Politifact is pretty far from non-partisan.

    Carry on.
    Your opinion or do you have a link?
  • Fly4Fun
    This website has always leaned pretty far to the right. I enjoy reading this forum from time to time to see the logic of sometimes lack there of people use to give legitimacy to their point of view.
  • O-Trap
    ppaw1999;1815116 wrote:Your opinion or do you have a link?
    This has the potential to turn into a Homunculus Fallacy.
  • ppaw1999
    O-Trap;1815119 wrote:This has the potential to turn into a Homunculus Fallacy.
    Hey I am trying to be serious here. :RpS_razz:If you can't believe CNN or Fox News where do you go?
  • QuakerOats
    fish82;1815112 wrote:Politifact is pretty far from non-partisan.

    Carry on.
    It is pretty hopeless when a fair segment of apparent voters need to fact-check reality.
  • QuakerOats
    ppaw1999;1815101 wrote:You wouldn't know a fact if it hit you square in the face. I agree people know what is going on and will vote accordingly. The question is will you be here to eat crow the day after the election?
    Of the 20 paragraphs I wrote, which are factually incorrect.
  • ppaw1999
    QuakerOats;1815123 wrote:Of the 20 paragraphs I wrote, which are factually incorrect.
    How many more Congressional hearings do we need to keep coming up empty handed? Those are our elected officials. If they can't prove guilt where do you go from here?
  • bases_loaded
    like_that;1815109 wrote:http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/300388-clinton-camp-appeared-to-have-contacts-with-doj-on-email-case

    Not to mention there are other emails where Hillary states that Qatar and Saudi are funding isis, yet her foundation still accepted donations from both countries.

    This is the type of shit that leads me to give anyone a pass if they vote trump because they despise Hillary. This is fucking absurd and any candidate not trump would have destroyed Hillary with all this shit.
    That's where I am at. I refuse to award that person and that family the position of POTUS. You don't go from white trash to capital M Millionaire by being a politician without being corrupt as fuck. If nothing else a Trump win shakes the system to its roots and sends a message to the establishment that we the people are tired of their shit. We're fighting each other over who should make $15 an hour and they are charging $1000 for cocktails and $25,000 for dinners in the name of charity and then paying themselves with 90% of the charity money.
  • Crimson streak
    bases_loaded;1815126 wrote:That's where I am at. I refuse to award that person and that family the position of POTUS. You don't go from white trash to capital M Millionaire by being a politician without being corrupt as fuck. If nothing else a Trump win shakes the system to its roots and sends a message to the establishment that we the people are tired of their shit. We're fighting each other over who should make $15 an hour and they are charging $1000 for cocktails and $25,000 for dinners in the name of charity and then paying themselves with 90% of the charity money.
    Exactly. I'd take a blind monkey for president over Hillary. At least trump sends a message to the establishment. He will probably be a shitty president but honestly he probably won't do shit and have all his people do all the work while he holds the title which I'm actually ok with, bc it's people that actual know what the fuck they are doing. Trump knows he doesn't know shit, I'll at least give him credit for that.


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  • QuakerOats
    ppaw1999;1815125 wrote:How many more Congressional hearings do we need to keep coming up empty handed? Those are our elected officials. If they can't prove guilt where do you go from here?
    It is not the job of elected officials to prove guilt ..........my God, no wonder we are where we are.
  • QuakerOats
    bases_loaded;1815126 wrote:That's where I am at. I refuse to award that person and that family the position of POTUS. You don't go from white trash to capital M Millionaire by being a politician without being corrupt as fuck. If nothing else a Trump win shakes the system to its roots and sends a message to the establishment that we the people are tired of their shit. We're fighting each other over who should make $15 an hour and they are charging $1000 for cocktails and $25,000 for dinners in the name of charity and then paying themselves with 90% of the charity money.

    Thank you.
  • QuakerOats
    Today's links:

    ASSANGE DRONES HILLARY!
    Releases Another 1,000 Emails From Podesta...
    His UFO Obsession...
    How Saudi Arabia And Qatar ARE Funding ISIS...
    UNIVISION chief urged Clinton to hit harder...
    CNN Jake Tapper congratulated Podesta...
    CNBC John Harwood Advises Campaign [And he was debate moderator?!]...
    NYT Gave Hillary Veto Power On Quotes!
    BOSTON GLOBE coordinated to max her 'presence' in paper...
    SHE WAS TOLD WHEN TO SMILE...
    Aide calls Chelsea 'spoiled brat'...
    BRAZILE BUSTED: DNC Chief Shared CNN Town Hall Questions...
    Leaked Sanders Dirt...
    Clinton campaign had discussions with DOJ!
    Just as... State Dept Coordinated Email Release

  • fish82
    ppaw1999;1815116 wrote:Your opinion or do you have a link?
    Here's one. Plenty more out there on The Google. http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2013/05/28/study-finds-fact-checkers-biased-against-republicans
  • sleeper
    ppaw1999;1815101 wrote:You wouldn't know a fact if it hit you square in the face. I agree people know what is going on and will vote accordingly. The question is will you be here to eat crow the day after the election?
    He will certainly bitch every day when our First Female President is elected and appoints 5 liberal SCOTUS justices who will uphold the rights of women.

    They wanted Trump though!
  • Heretic
    sleeper;1815134 wrote:He will certainly bitch every day when our First Female President is elected and appoints 5 liberal SCOTUS justices who will uphold the rights of women.

    They wanted Trump though!
    Yeah, that's the bizarrely hilarious thing about how things are going. I don't know if your more hardcore right-wingers nationwide are drama queens to the level of QQ, but there's something funny about people talking about how essential this election is in their "THE FATE OF THE NATION IS AT STAKE!!!!!" style...and then picking Trump to be their representative simply because he's not establishment and talks tough.

    The lack of logic and foresight is legitimately mind-boggling. With a real candidate who actually knows shit and can go three days without melting down, it's a slam dunk for the Rs. With Trump, it'll take a minor miracle and the only people who don't realize that are the hardcore Rs who simply bury their heads in the sand when it comes to him and pretend any setbacks he inflicts on himself are part of a vast conspiracy.
  • Dr Winston O'Boogie
    QuakerOats;1815088 wrote:I think it is the other way around. Morons or those living in a cocoon for the last 25 years might need liberal fact-checking, but most of us don't.

    We don't need fact-checking to know Hillary Clinton is a corrupt, serial-lying, money launderer. We know it from IRS records, State department pay-to-play, evidence destruction, and accomplices pleading the 5th amendment.

    We don't need fact-checking to know Hillary Clinton is a despicable being; enabling a predator; orchestrating the demonizing and destruction of victims of sexual assault and harassment.

    We don't need fact-checking to know Hillary Clinton has a private side - when she is giving 92 speeches to Wall St firms for tens of millions of dollars; and a public side, when she is lying to the American people about her own wealth creation and her deceitful position concerning investment banks and hedge funds.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that obamaKare is a complete disaster; the largest legislative and administrative fuck-up in the history of the nation, and also the biggest lie ever sold to the public by one party. She supports this train wreck, we know it.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that everything she touched in the Middle East is burning. Her record of failures is just that, a record; one that we know.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that she deliberately lied to the families of those killed in Benghazi (because of her ineptness), and she lied to the American people about it, again, and again.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that her open borders and amnesty are not in the best interest of our national defense.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that her own party and campaign is designed to keep the masses "uninformed and compliant".

    We don't need fact-checking to know that she was let off the hook by the FBI and the obama Justice Department for purely political reasons.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that she should be going to jail for (purposefully) mishandling classified information, just the like the Marine sergeant who is heading to jail for merely taking a few pictures of his submarine to show his family. We don't need fact-checking to understand this unconscionable double standard.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that we have zero economic growth and her policies will never turn that around.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that she will continue to use the EPA as the radical leftist's weapon of choice to crush our energy output.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that she will nominate radical leftists to the supreme court who will legislate from the bench for liberal causes, and to hell with the Constitution.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that the national debt has doubled to $20 trillion under obama, and she is obama III.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that our country is in serious trouble and it is headed in the wrong direction, as 70% of the public knows.

    We don't need fact-checking to know that our inner cities are disasters and the public education system that is entrenched therein, yet she wants and will deliver, more of the same.

    We don't need fact-checking to know she is on the wrong side of every major issue and challenge we face.

    Maybe some jackasses need fact-checking, and will politely suck up every lie she utters and do as she says and go to hillaryclintion.com for your propaganda bath, but most people know exactly what the hell is going on and are going to vote accordingly.

    Good luck.
    Oh my God. You've got too much time on your hands. Much of your diatribe isn't in the form of facts, but rather ambiguous charges (e.g. "on the wrong side of every major issue and challenge we face").

    It's your right to have you opinions about Hillary. But just know that the people you rail against (the radical left as you refer to them) aren't really any different than you. Yes, perhaps they get their information from shallow, partisan sources. But you do the exact same thing over and over.

    While I guess you assume many of Hillary's followers are stupid, what exactly do you think of the large swaths of idiots who show up at Trump rallies?
  • rocketalum
    All this and she will still win in November. That's not to say this isn't criminal, it's not to say to say she deserves any support or the honor of the highest office in the land. It's all to say how badly the GOP shot themselves in the foot by finding the one guy who could be more disliked than the lady who would have been the most disliked candidate in history. It's got to be hard knowing that you, and many others on the right, raise entirely justified arguments against Hillary but still have to look at the peers in your own party as the ultimate reason why the GOP let an incredibly winnable White House slip away by nominating a blow hard carnival barker.
  • ppaw1999
    Thank you. I try to be open minded. Too much out there to fact check on my own. I was hoping to find a credible way to have it done for me.
  • bases_loaded
    So because the GOP didn't rig their election...it's their fault. They tried to get anyone but Trump, he funded himself, he bought hardly any advertisements and he won. Everyone who is blaming the GOP doesn't understand how elections work.
  • O-Trap
    ppaw1999;1815121 wrote:
    O-Trap;1815119 wrote:This has the potential to turn into a Homunculus Fallacy.
    Hey I am trying to be serious here. :RpS_razz:If you can't believe CNN or Fox News where do you go?
    I was too, and that was why I mentioned it. If one asks for a source to prove or disprove the bias of a source, you have all the ingredients for a vicious infinite regress. Aristotle would be creaming himself over such an example.

    For the record, your question is one I think a lot of people are asking. If we can't go to the majority of the sources we see, where do we go? I've tried rooting around to find actual data before. It can be effective, but it's tedious, and since most of us have jobs, it's not like we have time to do that on every little issue.
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;1815138 wrote:While I guess you assume many of Hillary's followers are stupid, what exactly do you think of the large swaths of idiots who show up at Trump rallies?
    Per a study I saw a couple months ago, the most common denominator among Trump supporters, including those at the events, is not low intelligence. Instead, it is a lean toward authoritarianism. Given the platform's lip service, it's ironic.
    bases_loaded;1815144 wrote:So because the GOP didn't rig their election...it's their fault. They tried to get anyone but Trump, he funded himself, he bought hardly any advertisements and he won. Everyone who is blaming the GOP doesn't understand how elections work.
    The GOP doesn't exclude the voters. Rest assured that they get to share plenty of the blame as well.
  • QuakerOats
    bases_loaded;1815144 wrote:So because the GOP didn't rig their election...it's their fault. They tried to get anyone but Trump, he funded himself, he bought hardly any advertisements and he won. Everyone who is blaming the GOP doesn't understand how elections work.
    Thank you. I don't know how many times I have to say he won the nomination because of crossovers and independents. He was certainly not the 'choice' of "The GOP".
  • QuakerOats
    sleeper;1815134 wrote:He will certainly bitch every day when our First Female President is elected and appoints 5 liberal SCOTUS justices who will uphold the rights of women.
    I thought women were afforded the rights that all Americans have pursuant to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, or are you talking about some special rights that liberal justices will bestow?