Trump vs. Hillary (NO OTHER OPTIONS)

• QuakerOats

  CenterBHSFan;1803707 wrote:You'd be surprised at how many lockstep dems there are (because their daddies were, they are still buying into a long-forgotten ideology or the union told them to be) that voting for Trump. I see it day in and day out where I live. Which is eastern Ohio where all the coal mines are shutting down, the glass industry has been gone for decades and the steel mills have already been ran out of town.
  The reason this is happening is because of democrat economic policies. They're sick of getting laid off, they're sick of their plants shutting down, their sick of their mines being shut down. So, while in the bigger cities you might find more and more people deciding to go with Hillary (and it will probably be enough with just them) when you step out of it and talk with people who rely on industry you will find an altogether new tune being played out.
  When you look around at the tri-state area (Ohio, W.Virgina, Penn.) and you see more people in government housing than you do owning a home, lightbulbs start turning on for you.

  
  
  Bingo
• isadore

  sleeper;1804540 wrote:Racism can be fixed by government action?
  
  Do tell.

  gosh a ruddies
  it obviously can be effected by government action
• QuakerOats

  sleeper;1803835 wrote:To be fair, that's what everyone said about Trump when he entered the race with 17 Republican candidates.
  
  I think Hillary is the favorite but it wouldn't shock me at this point if Trump takes it.

  
  Whoa ..............how many posts from the last 3 months are there wherein you said the complete opposite??
• Al Bundy

  isadore;1804558 wrote:gosh a ruddies
  it obviously can be effected by government action

  Our Commander in chief certainly has made our country more divided on race.
• QuakerOats

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1803915 wrote:You're lying to yourself. Trump doesn't give a shit about "making America great again". Trump cares about the Trump brand and what this is doing for it. That's why he wants his vice to handle domestic and foreign policy.. b/c he just wants to be a figure head. He wants the prestige of being president without the work that goes with it. Please quit lying to yourself. He doesn't give a shit more than anyone else. He's in it for himself like everyone else.

  Accusing a rational person of lying to himself, while being in the tank for the biggest serial liar to ever sniff the presidency.
  
  The void between the ears is immeasurable.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  QuakerOats;1804562 wrote:Accusing a rational person of lying to himself, while being in the tank for the biggest serial liar to ever sniff the presidency.
  
  The void between the ears is immeasurable.

  Bernie is the biggest serial liar to ever sniff presidency?
• bases_loaded

  

  I mean he did "lead a revolution" against corrupt wall street politicians, only to be bought off with a private jet and $$$ by not one, but two corrupt wall street politicians.
• QuakerOats

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1803980 wrote:The difference is I understand how the free market operates and know that Bernie, Hillary, Jeb, Trump, Cruz, Rubio will/can never curb this. If you're pissed about a comppany closing in Ohio, then talk to our state legislatures and ask why Ohio isnt as lucrative of a state as other to relocate too. No president will have any sort of control over that.

  Incorrect. The edicts being handed down from the federal agencies in the form of regulatory rules are crushing industries. Many states are doing their best on a daily basis to block these asinine rules, and state AG's are going to courts every day to block these marxist radicals from completely wiping out capitalism via executive fiat from EPA, OSHA, MSHA, DOL, NLRB and on and on ....... It is sickening what is happening. But, if you are not involved in manufacturing, you probably wouldn't know, or wouldn't understand. Fucking sad.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  bases_loaded;1804564 wrote:I mean he did "lead a revolution" against corrupt wall street politicians, only to be bought off with a private jet and $$$ by not one, but two corrupt wall street politicians.

  
  uh huh.. he probably took this jet his was given to Dallas to murder that staffer too!
• QuakerOats

  Automatik;1803977 wrote:It's only 4 or 8 years. Calm down.

  
  No it isn't. It is decades with a majority of radically liberal supreme court justices who continue to write law from the bench. If for no other reason, and their are plenty, Clinton must be defeated. We are at the teetering point with producers and takers; once we go over the edge (and we will with that lying, criminal bitch), then it is over.
• O-Trap

  

  Automatik;1804533 wrote:Wall

  The only actual plan you listed.
  

  Automatik;1804533 wrote:be tougher

  This isn't a plan. This is a nothing. It's an emotional appeal with no actual substance. It offers zero in the way of actual steps. It's not a plan. It's what an oblivious mom yells at her son's sporting events.
  

  Automatik;1804533 wrote:crush ISIS

  How? By hunting through every country on the planet? You're talking about an ideology. It's not a nation state. It's not a "place" you can attack. This is as sensible as waging a "war on terror." It sounds nice, but it's logistically impossible.
  

  Automatik;1804533 wrote:MAGA.

  See "be tougher," except it's something Stan from American Dad would say instead of a sports mom.
  

  bases_loaded;1804551 wrote:Yet he can buy and sell you a million times. So dumb luck or is he playing the game better than anyone in history?

  Pretty sure Fred's inheritance, as well as Donald taking over daddy's role as CEO, probably had a little something to do with it.
• bases_loaded

  

  QuakerOats;1804568 wrote:No it isn't. It is decades with a majority of radically liberal supreme court justices who continue to write law from the bench. If for no other reason, and their are plenty, Clinton must be defeated. We are at the teetering point with producers and takers; once we go over the edge (and we will with that lying, criminal bitch), then it is over.

  Producers and takers? Sounds racist. -Isodore and Zwick
• SportsAndLady

  

  O-Trap;1804569 wrote:The only actual plan you listed.
  
  
  
  This isn't a plan. This is a nothing. It's an emotional appeal with no actual substance. It offers zero in the way of actual steps. It's not a plan. It's what an oblivious mom yells at her son's sporting events.
  
  
  
  How? By hunting through every country on the planet? You're talking about an ideology. It's not a nation state. It's not a "place" you can attack. This is as sensible as waging a "war on terror." It sounds nice, but it's logistically impossible.
  
  
  
  See "be tougher," except it's something Stan from American Dad would say instead of a sports mom.
  
  
  
  Pretty sure Fred's inheritance, as well as Donald taking over daddy's role as CEO, probably had a little something to do with it.

  I'm 94% positive automatik was being sarcastic.
• Automatik

  

  QuakerOats;1804568 wrote:No it isn't. It is decades with a majority of radically liberal supreme court justices who continue to write law from the bench. If for no other reason, and their are plenty, Clinton must be defeated. We are at the teetering point with producers and takers; once we go over the edge (and we will with that lying, criminal bitch), then it is over.

  Well good chance "it's over" then. Where do you plan to relocate?
  

  O-Trap;1804569 wrote:The only actual plan you listed.
  
  
  
  This isn't a plan. This is a nothing. It's an emotional appeal with no actual substance. It offers zero in the way of actual steps. It's not a plan. It's what an oblivious mom yells at her son's sporting events.
  
  
  
  How? By hunting through every country on the planet? You're talking about an ideology. It's not a nation state. It's not a "place" you can attack. This is as sensible as waging a "war on terror." It sounds nice, but it's logistically impossible.
  
  
  
  See "be tougher," except it's something Stan from American Dad would say instead of a sports mom.
  
  
  
  Pretty sure Fred's inheritance, as well as Donald taking over daddy's role as CEO, probably had a little something to do with it.

  My post was made in jest.
• bases_loaded

  

  The numbers are all over the place but at best he inherited around 40 million from his father and his net worth is 4.1 billion. Now lets compare that to a true idiot. Paris Hilton...60 million inheritance, current net worth 100 million.
• isadore

  Al Bundy;1804561 wrote:Our Commander in chief certainly has made our country more divided on race.

  Gosh a ruddies no he has worked to bring us together. Other elements in our society have worked to pull us apart. What we find less examples of racism on a daily basis.
  
  http://www.gallup.com/poll/1687/race-relations.aspx
• Spock

  

  NATO is garbage and if we backed out it would fall apart.
  
  Lets not base our election on what we are doing with the puppetry.
• QuakerOats

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804330 wrote:The oddest thing to me is how much Hillary DGAF. Hires wauserman who just resigned for coercion. Takes Kain who about as unimpactfull as you can get. It's like she doesn't think this is even a race. And I would have agreed before... But Jesus Christ woman ...

  Come on, obama just said she is the most qualified to ever run for the office. Unfortunately the only idiots who believe that are the feminazis and the marxists.
• Automatik

  

  I feel the same way about people who believe in MAGA. Funny world we live in.
• QuakerOats

  GOONx19;1804340 wrote:What has Trump done in the last year that indicates he is capable of making smart political decisions in any way? Just about everything he's done publicly has been poorly thought out or poorly executed.

  Really. How did he win then?
  
  And these were just "political decisions" from a 'rookie', and he won.
  
  I look forward to the actual 'real' decisions that will affect us on trade, tax reform, regulatory reform, obamacare, illegal immigration, and supporting police, military, and veterans.............areas where his real world experience will help him do the right things.
• Automatik

  

  Military tactics specifically. I'll be all ears for that one.
• bases_loaded

  

  Automatik;1804577 wrote:I feel the same way about people who believe in MAGA. Funny world we live in.

  They all have stupid mottos. Nobody votes for..most people aren't voting for the motto. A vote for Hillary maintains status quo. If you are fine with the direction of the country then vote HRC, most years it wouldn't matter who you voted for as they all play on the same team, but this year you have a chance to vote for an outsider with a realistic shot at the thing.
• QuakerOats

  sleeper;1804464 wrote:Mostly I'm worried about Trump wrecking havoc on the relationships with our allies.
  
  His other issues, like his domestic ideas, won't get anywhere in Congress, even with a Republican majority. He's a lame duck as soon as he enters office on those issues. But he still will be meeting with world leaders and his brass attitude could damage those relationships forever.

  I don't know how you could be so wrong. Unlike obama who vetoed the repeal of obamacare last February; Trump will sign it. Unlike obama who will not cut taxes, Trump will sign tax reform. Unlike obama who is crushing industry with marxist federal edicts, Trump will roll them back, and congress will back him all the way. Shall I continue ....
• QuakerOats

  sleeper;1804524 wrote:How will you defeat ISIS? Very quickly.
  
  Classic Trump.

  So, we should give the reins to the person(s) who gave rise to ISIS.
  
  
  Fucking brilliant.
• Automatik

  

  Bush?