Trump vs. Hillary (NO OTHER OPTIONS)
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like_that
Not to mention the same person in the DNC stacking the cards against Bernie is now working for Hillary [emoji23].SportsAndLady;1804432 wrote:He was a huge Bernie fan. Fought for that revolution. Then Hillary defeated Bernie using their own party to fix it. Even though Hillary is everything Bernie is against, he's now a Hillary supporter. Lol -
ZWICK 4 PREZ
I'm sure some were. I'm also sure I wasn't and I'm also sure you didn't see me QQ'ing on here about what anyone was saying. s&l on the other hand...like_that;1804434 wrote:Yes because liberals surely weren't watching the RNC and crying the whole time.
I haven't watched a minute of either. They are both glorified pep rallies. I did see some highlights and the sellout Bernie gave his final desperate push for hillary. Also I saw Michelle Obama wasted no time reminding people the WH was built by slaves. Divide and conquer must live on. -
ZWICK 4 PREZ
can and should are two different yet not mutually exclusive things. Can the government solve all the worlds inequalities.. of course not. Should we say "oh well, tough shit, that's life, get over it".. well that's what the popular sentiment from the right seems to be.CenterBHSFan;1804433 wrote:I don't think that there is anything wrong with having a "bleeding heart" persay. I think the issue comes with where you draw the line in how much you think that government can fix dealing with life. -
ZWICK 4 PREZ
old man was a sheetmetal fabricator and mother a nurse.. Neither ever in a union. Both middle class people.. not rich but not poor. But both did stress to help those who had even less than us, yes.bases_loaded;1804431 wrote:See I've always seen him as the son of some old broken down union steel worker. Raised to vote democrat even though the democrats have long forgotten the poor white union worker and moved on to exploit the blacks and hispanics. Thinking he is smarter than everyone else fits though as does putting down others who don't agree with him and in some cases dragging names through the mud all fit the puppet liberal. -
ernest_t_bass
I'm talking way, way back in the day, back to JJ.SportsAndLady;1804432 wrote:He was a huge Bernie fan. Fought for that revolution. Then Hillary defeated Bernie using their own party to fix it. Even though Hillary is everything Bernie is against, he's now a Hillary supporter. Lol -
ZWICK 4 PREZ
I'm interested to hear your reasoning.. I can't think of anything about me that's ever been big business, trickle down, religious right.ernest_t_bass;1804440 wrote:I'm talking way, way back in the day, back to JJ. -
bases_loaded
Well you claim I am a racist hillbilly so I guess were both wrong...plus sleeper things we can't pull 50k together which makes him wrong. Only thing we have right is that each other is wrong on how they think the country should be managed.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804439 wrote:old man was a sheetmetal fabricator and mother a nurse.. Neither ever in a union. Both middle class people.. not rich but not poor. But both did stress to help those who had even less than us, yes. -
fish82
Warren is everything Warren stands against. http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/08/news/economy/elizabeth-warren-wealth/SportsAndLady;1804412 wrote:She's so full of shit standing up there endorsing Hillary Clinton. Hillary is EVERYTHING warren stands against. -
Automatik
Oh shit...politicians flip flopping. I'm outraged. -
iclfan2
She also pretended to be part Native American to win an election -
isadore
Gosh a ruddies, thank you for providing the David Duke view of Michelle Obama's speech. no. 1 the statement was true. no. 2 She pushed the point that the United States was the greatest country in the world. no. 3 It was the best speech of either convention so far.like_that;1804434 wrote:Yes because liberals surely weren't watching the RNC and crying the whole time.
I haven't watched a minute of either. They are both glorified pep rallies. I did see some highlights and the sellout Bernie gave his final desperate push for hillary. Also I saw Michelle Obama wasted no time reminding people the WH was built by slaves. Divide and conquer must live on. -
bases_loaded
The left platform has been abysmal. All they have left is to continue to put races against each other and pretend to care about minorities securing votes. Problem is they are starting to wake up.
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bases_loaded
[FONT="] "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback,"
SO it wasn't always great? Because last night you said you didn't know about all this needing to make it great again talk.[/FONT] -
sleeper
Mostly I'm worried about Trump wrecking havoc on the relationships with our allies.gut;1804388 wrote:16 years of shitty leadership - what's 4 more? Trump blowing up both parties and inspiring nationwide butthurt isn't the worst scenario.
His other issues, like his domestic ideas, won't get anywhere in Congress, even with a Republican majority. He's a lame duck as soon as he enters office on those issues. But he still will be meeting with world leaders and his brass attitude could damage those relationships forever. -
sleeper
I thought it was a good speech except when she randomly invoked slavery.isadore;1804409 wrote:Mrs Obama did a great job -
sleeper
The irony was real in her speech. Pretty much everyone of her points to vote for Hillary could easily be refuted by just her latest scandal alone.SportsAndLady;1804410 wrote:No one hates rich people more than Elizabeth warren.
It was a good speech to rile up the base but a poor speech from a rational perspective. -
sleeper
I thought this was strange. Warren did the same thing calling 'divide and conquer' a Republican idea when the reality is Democrats win by that strategy.like_that;1804434 wrote:Also I saw Michelle Obama wasted no time reminding people the WH was built by slaves. Divide and conquer must live on.
I mean class politics, identity politics, and racism are all perpetuated by Democratic politicians. -
bases_loaded
Good luck finding a time the Obama's don't invoke slavery. Even though they have benefited more from their race without any of the suffering.sleeper;1804465 wrote:I thought it was a good speech except when she randomly invoked slavery. -
CenterBHSFan
This is especially true. Anybody who can pick up a US History book and can read will soon come to this irrefutable truth. But I think it's something that relies on allowing yourself to see the bigger picture.sleeper;1804467 wrote:I thought this was strange. Warren did the same thing calling 'divide and conquer' a Republican idea when the reality is Democrats win by that strategy.
I mean class politics, identity politics, and racism are all perpetuated by Democratic politicians.
When people hear speeches about helping the poor, helping the repressed, helping the oppressed it triggers psychological triggers. They hear all of these inspirational words, it makes them feel good, they look and see that there are an overwhelming number of welfare programs and believe that the government can do more. However, the trouble lays in what actually gets lost between words, money, accountability and waste.
It has been said time and time again, without fail proving the statement correct, that democrats just moved from the Big House to the White House. Add in the factor of "let's just keep the party in power, yes we kinda fail at this and we don't really want you to open your logical eyes, but we just need to win!" and then you have a party that has pulled a dark trick on its supporters. -
sleeper
I also think its interesting that this election has been narrowed down to "Vote Hillary because we need those SCOTUS judges". It's almost like the other two branches of government don't matter if we can elect biased justices that support our ideology; which of course is not the purpose of the SCOTUS to have an ideology one way or the other.CenterBHSFan;1804470 wrote:This is especially true. Anybody who can pick up a US History book and can read will soon come to this irrefutable truth. But I think it's something that relies on allowing yourself to see the bigger picture.
When people hear speeches about helping the poor, helping the repressed, helping the oppressed it triggers psychological triggers. They hear all of these inspirational words, it makes them feel good, they look and see that there are an overwhelming number of welfare programs and believe that the government can do more. However, the trouble lays in what actually gets lost between words, money, accountability and waste.
It has been said time and time again, without fail proving the statement correct, that democrats just moved from the Big House to the White House. Add in the factor of "let's just keep the party in power, yes we kinda fail at this and we don't really want you to open your logical eyes, but we just need to win!" and then you have a party that has pulled a dark trick on its supporters. -
Spock
damage? Likely cant be worse than Obama being a ***** toward them. World leaders that are butt hurt with the US? Doesnt exist when we are strong. What the world wants when we are in the room is our pocket book and our military. That is it. When we have those, the rest of the world can sit there and take it.sleeper;1804464 wrote:Mostly I'm worried about Trump wrecking havoc on the relationships with our allies.
His other issues, like his domestic ideas, won't get anywhere in Congress, even with a Republican majority. He's a lame duck as soon as he enters office on those issues. But he still will be meeting with world leaders and his brass attitude could damage those relationships forever. -
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Yeah! 'Merica!Spock;1804474 wrote:damage? Likely cant be worse than Obama being a ***** toward them. World leaders that are butt hurt with the US? Doesnt exist when we are strong. What the world wants when we are in the room is our pocket book and our military. That is it. When we have those, the rest of the world can sit there and take it. -
sleeper
Obama was only a ***** because he made the ill-advised "redline" comment but largely he's done a good job at maintaining the relationships with allies and others worldwide.Spock;1804474 wrote:damage? Likely cant be worse than Obama being a ***** toward them. World leaders that are butt hurt with the US? Doesnt exist when we are strong. What the world wants when we are in the room is our pocket book and our military. That is it. When we have those, the rest of the world can sit there and take it.
I don't want a President who's going to rub shit in other leaders faces and ruin those relationships; and this is the primary reason I am voting for HRC. -
Spock
So instead of a firm leader that will stand up for what is good for the US, you want the wife of the guy that basically ignored the worlds problems (middle eastern terrorist), the secretary of state that did a horrible job with Russia and China and North Korea and Syria and Iraq and Lybia. Wow you sound like Ptwon when he voted for Obama on all his foreign policy experience (which was zero)sleeper;1804476 wrote:Obama was only a ***** because he made the ill-advised "redline" comment but largely he's done a good job at maintaining the relationships with allies and others worldwide.
I don't want a President who's going to rub shit in other leaders faces and ruin those relationships; and this is the primary reason I am voting for HRC.