Trump vs. Hillary (NO OTHER OPTIONS)

• sleeper

  

  isadore;1804519 wrote:gosh a ruddies what she said was both true and complimentary to our country.
  "That is the story of this country, the story that has brought me to this stage tonight, the story of generations of people who felt the lash of bondage, the shame of servitude, the sting of segregation, but who kept on striving and hoping and doing what needed to be done so that today, I wake up every morning in a house that was built by slaves — and I watch my daughters — two beautiful, intelligent, black young women — playing with their dogs on the White House lawn. And because of Hillary Clinton, my daughters — and all our sons and daughters — now take for granted that a woman can be President of the United States.So don't let anyone ever tell you that this country isn't great, that somehow we need to make it great again. Because this, right now, is the greatest country on earth."
  what is she saying that One reason why we are the greatest country is because we could make that progress, that is a compliment.

  It's still invoking identity and racial politics which is part of the Dems divide and conquer strategy. They use minorities to get votes by pretending to give a shit about them and that the problems of minorities is clearly because white people are racist. They do the same with women and pretend the problems with women are because of men.
  
  The reality is, minorities have their own problems just like white people and only you can fix your own problems.
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  sleeper;1804509 wrote:No. He doesn't understand what nuclear proliferation means and wants Japan and South Korea to get their own nukes. He doesn't understand that Mexico isn't going to pay for any wall(the wall itself is dumb as shit too); he doesn't understand that NATO is not a treaty designed to be "wait and see" but rather a promise to defend those who signed the treaty. If Trump thinks he can bully nations into complying with his dog shit, then he's completely delusional.
  
  Again, that is the reality. Trump is an idiot at best.

  Much better is to sell the uranium to a country like Russia and then it becomes their problem right?
• Automatik

  

  Heretic;1804520 wrote:You'll have to wait until Trump specifically says who they are, since CC only parrots the exact stuff he says, so he's still waiting on that info himself.

  Precisely my reason for asking.
  
  
  How will you defeat ISIS?
  
  WE GOTTA BE TOUGHER?!
  
  Yes, but how will you be tougher?
  
  DON'T YOU WANT TO START WINNING AGAIN?
• sleeper

  

  Automatik;1804523 wrote:Precisely my reason for asking.
  
  
  How will you defeat ISIS?
  
  WE GOTTA BE TOUGHER?!
  
  Yes, but how will you be tougher?
  
  DON'T YOU WANT TO START WINNING AGAIN?

  How will you defeat ISIS? Very quickly.
  
  Classic Trump.
• Automatik

  

  I'll say it again, Idiocracy was the most prophetic movie in history.
• sleeper

  

  bases_loaded;1804522 wrote:Much better is to sell the uranium to a country like Russia and then it becomes their problem right?

  I have no idea what you're talking about. Russia already has uranium and has nuclear weapons.
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  sleeper;1804492 wrote:The irony of course is Trump not only has no foreign policy experience but also a lack of political experience.
  
  You're being overtly critical of Obama because he is a Democrat. That is the reality.

  I'm not defending Trump, but Obama's foreign policy is sub par at best. Just ask any member of the DoD and I'm sure they would tell you.
  
  Trading 5 terrorists for Bowe Bergdahl and then parading him around as a success automatically brings Obama's grade down to a C- at best.
• bases_loaded

  

  sleeper;1804526 wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about. Russia already has uranium and has nuclear weapons.

  
• sleeper

  

  like_that;1804527 wrote:I'm not defending Trump, but Obama's foreign policy is sub par at best. Just ask any member of the DoD and I'm sure they would tell you.
  
  Trading 5 terrorists for Bowe Bergdahl and then parading him around as a success automatically brings Obama's grade down to a C- at best.

  Yeah wasn't the best idea. It's still not as radical as de-tangling alliances that have kept the world relatively stable for the last 60 years and trying to bully countries into paying the US for the US to protect its own interests.
  
  I'm curious how you grade Bush's foreign policy.
• sleeper

  

  bases_loaded;1804528 wrote:

  The source is pretty laughable. But you're deflecting. Russia already has as many nuclear weapons as us if not more.
  
  Do you support SK and Japan having nuclear weapons? It's a simply yes or no.
• bases_loaded

  

  Both had failed foreign policies...so let's elect an extension of them.
• sleeper

  

  bases_loaded;1804531 wrote:Both had failed foreign policies...so let's elect an extension of them.

  And what is Trump's foreign policy? Throw NATO in the trash and bully countries?
  
  LOL
• Automatik

  

  sleeper;1804532 wrote:And what is Trump's foreign policy? Throw NATO in the trash and bully countries?
  
  LOL

  
  Wall, be tougher, crush ISIS, MAGA.
  
  Get with it.
• bases_loaded

  

  sleeper;1804530 wrote:The source is pretty laughable. But you're deflecting. Russia already has as many nuclear weapons as us if not more.
  
  Do you support SK and Japan having nuclear weapons? It's a simply yes or no.

  Why is it laughable? Its not MSNBC or CNN?
  
  Also, if every country surrounding yours has them, specifically one that wants to wipe you off the planet why not have one of your own?
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  sleeper;1804532 wrote:And what is Trump's foreign policy? Throw NATO in the trash and bully countries?
  
  LOL

  I guess for someone lazy who bases their opinions on headlines. I think he believes that the United States should not expend its foreign-policy energy and power unless its allies, partners, or other stakeholders have a similar commitment to solving the issue at hand.
• isadore

  sleeper;1804521 wrote:It's still invoking identity and racial politics which is part of the Dems divide and conquer strategy. They use minorities to get votes by pretending to give a shit about them and that the problems of minorities is clearly because white people are racist. They do the same with women and pretend the problems with women are because of men.
  
  The reality is, minorities have their own problems just like white people and only you can fix your own problems.

  Gosh a ruddies what she did was compliment America on the progress made from being a slave owning nation to one that would put an African American family in the White House. That is a positive no matter what spin you try to put on it.
  Oh and some problems can only be fixed by government action.
• sleeper

  

  bases_loaded;1804534 wrote:Why is it laughable? Its not MSNBC or CNN?
  
  Also, if every country surrounding yours has them, specifically one that wants to wipe you off the planet why not have one of your own?

  It's a conservative group and makes a lot of assumptions based on loose associations. It's not exactly cream of the crop journalism and looks to be more tin foil hat based than reality.
  
  So yes. You support nuclear proliferation. Wow.
• sleeper

  

  bases_loaded;1804535 wrote:I guess for someone lazy who bases their opinions on headlines. I think he believes that the United States should not expend its foreign-policy energy and power unless its allies, partners, or other stakeholders have a similar commitment to solving the issue at hand.

  That isn't an opinion. That is straight from the horse's mouth. Trump doesn't understand NATO, doesn't understand nuclear weapons policy, and doesn't understand how to build and maintain relationships in the political world.
  
  He's a foreign policy disaster waiting to happen and you're delusional if you believe otherwise.
• sleeper

  

  isadore;1804537 wrote:Gosh a ruddies what she did was compliment America on the progress made from being a slave owning nation to one that would put an African American family in the White House. That is a positive no matter what spin you try to put on it.
  Oh and some problems can only be fixed by government action.

  Racism can be fixed by government action?
  
  Do tell.
• Automatik

  

  sleeper;1804539 wrote:That isn't an opinion. That is straight from the horse's mouth. Trump doesn't understand NATO, doesn't understand nuclear weapons policy, and doesn't understand how to build and maintain relationships in the political world.
  
  He's a foreign policy disaster waiting to happen and you're delusional if you believe otherwise.

  
  I've been hearing similar responses when Trump statements get bashed. YA, WELL THE FUCKING MEDIA ALL LIKE AGAINST HIM AND STUFF.
  
  Does the media control his ability to speak? People need to not be so fucking gullible.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  sleeper;1804540 wrote:Racism can be fixed by government action?
  
  Do tell.

  Simple. You legislate everything. EVERYTHING. From your bedroom to what you eat and drink to what job you have/cannot have.
  Everything. Legislate!
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  sleeper;1804529 wrote:Yeah wasn't the best idea. It's still not as radical as de-tangling alliances that have kept the world relatively stable for the last 60 years and trying to bully countries into paying the US for the US to protect its own interests.
  
  I'm curious how you grade Bush's foreign policy.

  C- on his best day.
• sleeper

  

  Automatik;1804541 wrote:I've been hearing similar responses when Trump statements get bashed. YA, WELL THE FUCKING MEDIA ALL LIKE AGAINST HIM AND STUFF.
  
  Does the media control his ability to speak? People need to not be so fucking gullible.

  I do agree the media is heavily liberal but Trump does himself no favors. He sounds like one of the dumbest people on the planet; its embarrassing.
• sleeper

  

  like_that;1804543 wrote:C- on his best day.

  I'd take Obama over Bush for foreign policy. I think they are both pretty average/below average but the Iraq war was the worst foreign policy decision of all time.
  
  I'd take Obama/Clinton/Bush over Trump and it's not even close. Trump is an F- before he even enters office. He's a joke.
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  Yet he can buy and sell you a million times. So dumb luck or is he playing the game better than anyone in history?