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Breaking down Bernie's plan

  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    Belly35;1784623 wrote:why is everyone the liberal socialist disagrees with a old fart? Hey! shit for brains we where young also at one time, we grump old fart grew up, began to understand, live in the real world.
    Take a hint what you want now, is not what you want for your family, yourself or kids later... you'll understand that you work to hard to just have government take it away.
    The fact hes a grumpy old fuck has nothing to do with his economic ideas and everything to do with his horrible personality.
  • QuakerOats
    Understandable to get bitter with age when everything you worked for for your employees and your family and yourself is on the verge of being stolen by young idiots who call themselves progressives giving BIG government the green light to confiscate production, earnings, and wealth and redistribute it to those who contribute little to nothing.

    Heck, bitter will just be the beginning; how about a literal fight about it someday.
  • BR1986FB
    QuakerOats;1784642 wrote:Understandable to get bitter with age when everything you worked for for your employees and your family and yourself is on the verge of being stolen by young idiots who call themselves progressives giving BIG government the green light to confiscate production, earnings, and wealth and redistribute it to those who contribute little to nothing.

    Heck, bitter will just be the beginning; how about a literal fight about it someday.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to QuakerOats again.
  • gut
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784594 wrote:Wow. All those taxes and still 7% growth.
    Because that's the tax rates aren't remotely correlated with receipts.

    Tax rates have varied wildly, but revenues have generally been within +/- 1% of 18.2% of GDP. And that's partly because of loopholes and deductions, but also because taxes for the wealthy are "voluntary" in the sense that capital gains can be deferred for years before they are realized for tax purposes.
  • FatHobbit
    QuakerOats;1784642 wrote:Understandable to get bitter with age when everything you worked for for your employees and your family and yourself is on the verge of being stolen by young idiots who call themselves progressives giving BIG government the green light to confiscate production, earnings, and wealth and redistribute it to those who contribute little to nothing.

    Heck, bitter will just be the beginning; how about a literal fight about it someday.
    I have never agreed with you more
  • HitsRus
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to QuakerOats again.
  • jmog
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784583 wrote:I must have missed the part where he suggested taking control of production back to the government. You were at that rally?
    That would be communism not socialism Zwick
  • Con_Alma
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784615 wrote:The answer to your question was in your question... Majority rules. If the majority doesn't want social programs and higher taxes, then no it shouldn't. If the majority does, then yes it should. It appears in not in the majority since Hillary is winning the nomination and not Bernie. But it also appears the country is shifting that way since Bernie is winning states and taking votes from Hillary. Will we see it in our lifetimes? Who knows.

    ...k.
    Maybe in a pure democracy majority rules but I'm pretty sure just because the majority want something in our country doesn't mean it should or will be. It's never been that way.
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    jmog;1784764 wrote:That would be communism not socialism Zwick
    a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies.

    www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
  • gut
    The main difference between communism and socialism is the latter pretends not to take over industry, but effectively does the same thing with punishing taxes and regulation. It's an indirect method, but still central planning at the end of the day.
  • gut
    Bernie blaming Flint's water problems on Corporations and Wall Street.......L...M...F...A...O...
  • majorspark
    LOL at asking Hillary if government officials should go to jail over the Flint water crisis.
  • gut
  • HitsRus
    Bernie blaming Flint's water problems on Corporations and Wall Street.......L...M...F...A...O...
    LOL at asking Hillary if government officials should go to jail over the Flint water crisis.
    what planet are these guys on?
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    So much for Hillary being up 21 points in Michigan. How do polls miss that badly?
  • Spock
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1785232 wrote:So much for Hillary being up 21 points in Michigan. How do polls miss that badly?
    this pattern will continue since the email scandal is going to turn into a trial soon
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    Spock;1785233 wrote:this pattern will continue since the email scandal is going to turn into a trial soon
    It might turn into a trial, but not for Hillary. If you know anything about America, someone like Hillary Clinton will never have to worry.
  • like_that
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1785237 wrote:It might turn into a trial, but not for Hillary. If you know anything about America, someone like Hillary Clinton will never have to worry.
    I wouldn't go that far. Even her husband got impeached and we all know he is 100x the con artist Hillary is.
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    like_that;1785239 wrote:I wouldn't go that far. Even her husband got impeached and we all know he is 100x the con artist Hillary is.
    Impeached and he's a billionaire today. Like I said.. People like the Clintons never have to worry.
  • Al Bundy
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1785240 wrote:Impeached and he's a billionaire today. Like I said.. People like the Clintons never have to worry.
    He's a billionaire? No wonder Bernie appeals to people like you who struggle with numbers.
  • SportsAndLady
    Al Bundy;1785241 wrote:He's a billionaire? No wonder Bernie appeals to people like you who struggle with numbers.
    In Zwick's defense he's only $920 million from being a billionaire.
  • Al Bundy
    SportsAndLady;1785242 wrote:In Zwick's defense he's only $920 million from being a billionaire.
    In Bernie math, it's all the same :)
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    Yeah I stand corrected. I had read between Bill and Hillary and the foundation they're worth 1.1 bill, but it looks like a fluff piece. Everything else looks like Bill is 100 mil, Hillary is 200 mil and the foundation is 200 mil. So half a billion.

    Still insanely rich from their net worth prior to his presidency of $350,000
  • SportsAndLady
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1785253 wrote:Yeah I stand corrected. I had read between Bill and Hillary and the foundation they're worth 1.1 bill, but it looks like a fluff piece. Everything else looks like Bill is 100 mil, Hillary is 200 mil and the foundation is 200 mil. So half a billion.

    Still insanely rich from their net worth prior to his presidency of $350,000
    Dude what are you talking about lol

    Hillary Clinton is worth roughly $30 million. Bill roughly $80 million.
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    SportsAndLady;1785259 wrote:Dude what are you talking about lol

    Hillary Clinton is worth roughly $30 million. Bill roughly $80 million.
    Yeah another fail on me. When it said Hillary was worth 200 mil it counted the foundation.. so yeah they're not close to billionaires.