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Breaking down Bernie's plan

  • like_that
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1783284 wrote:I would assume because he was in high school when he had to register for the military like most boys.
    Oh ok. I guess all high school boys applied for conscientious objector. [emoji849]
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    like_that;1783287 wrote:Oh ok. I guess all high school boys applied for conscientious objector. [emoji849]
    Probably the ones who didn't believe in war. You asked why he applied since he was a college kid. I answered that for you. Sorry you didn't like it.
  • like_that
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1783298 wrote:Probably the ones who didn't believe in war. You asked why he applied since he was a college kid. I answered that for you. Sorry you didn't like it.
    The fact you are avoiding is its not a good idea to have a "conscientious objector" as our commander in chief.
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    like_that;1783299 wrote:The fact you are avoiding is its not a good idea to have a "conscientious objector" as our commander in chief.
    Having warhawk presidents hasn't exactly been good for us.
  • like_that
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1783300 wrote:Having warhawk presidents hasn't exactly been good for us.
    Who said anything about wanting a warhawk?
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    like_that;1783303 wrote:Who said anything about wanting a warhawk?
    Well that's the opposite of a conscientious objector.
  • QuakerOats
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1783300 wrote:Having warhawk presidents hasn't exactly been good for us.
    no doubt; this freedom shit is for the birds. Appeasers need only apply ............
  • Con_Alma
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1783242 wrote:"Rob May is a VP for the company (Datto) that acquired his company (Backupify) in 2014. Last year the company was investigated by the FBI due to their servers being used to back-up potentially classified e-mails from Hillary Clinton. Rob tries to instill a sense of disappoint in Bernie Sanders stance while choosing not to divulge his position in a company tied to the Hillary Clinton email scandal"

    Yeah, I'd say he is what's wrong with America lol
    I don't get the impression from the article that he's running from anything. He admits his failures and highlights the the efforts to dig out form them. If the FBI investigated him I have no doubt any illegal activities will be addressed.

    I don't think he would lie about not being a supporter of Mr. Sanders.
  • Con_Alma
    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/271285-ron-paul-sanders-just-a-variant-of-trump

    "Ron Paul has an interesting way at looking at Sanders and Trump....concluding that both are authoritarians.

    Ron Paul on Tuesday vowed he could not support Bernie Sanders’s White House run because of the Democratic presidential candidate’s similarities with Donald Trump.
    “No, because he’s an authoritarian,” he said when asked if he’d back the independent Vermont senator on “CNN Newsroom."
    “He’s just a variant of Trump,” the former Texas representative added. "Even the things I worked with on Bernie, some of the foreign policy, he’s a part of the military industrial complex.“He was a big voter for militarism. He’s an authoritarian of a different color, but Trump’s a super authoritarian. Trump wants to be the boss.”..."
  • Wolves of Babylon
    How I wish Rand could have been a little more like his dad and not pandering as much as he did.

    As for Bernie, after today he will be done.

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  • Heretic
    Wolves of Babylon;1784090 wrote:How I wish Rand could have been a little more like his dad and not pandering as much as he did.

    As for Bernie, after today he will be done.

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    Could someone pass that memo along to the Facebook Feel The Bern Committee, as they still seem to be regularly posting with their "Yeah, we got this!" attitudes still completely intact and since they seem to be the most annoying of the politards I have to view/interact with, I'd like this to stop or at least slow down a good bit.
  • QuakerOats
    Heretic;1784302 wrote:Could someone pass that memo along to the Facebook Feel The Bern Committee, as they still seem to be regularly posting with their "Yeah, we got this!" attitudes still completely intact and since they seem to be the most annoying of the politards I have to view/interact with, I'd like this to stop or at least slow down a good bit.


    Boy am I glad I am off the hook............ :)
  • BR1986FB
    From Facebook....




    [h=5]Garry Kasparov[/h]Yesterday at 2:57pm ·






    I'm enjoying the irony of American Sanders supporters lecturing me, a former Soviet citizen, on the glories of Socialism and what it really means! Socialism sounds great in speech soundbites and on Facebook, but please keep it there. In practice, it corrodes not only the economy but the human spirit itself, and the ambition and achievement that made modern capitalism possible and brought billions of people out of poverty. Talking about Socialism is a huge luxury, a luxury that was paid for by the successes of capitalism. Income inequality is a huge problem, absolutely. But the idea that the solution is more government, more regulation, more debt, and less risk is dangerously absurd.

  • Spock
    The experiment of Bernie is now over.
  • queencitybuckeye
    BR1986FB;1784405 wrote:From Facebook....




    Garry Kasparov

    Yesterday at 2:57pm ·






    I'm enjoying the irony of American Sanders supporters lecturing me, a former Soviet citizen, on the glories of Socialism and what it really means! Socialism sounds great in speech soundbites and on Facebook, but please keep it there. In practice, it corrodes not only the economy but the human spirit itself, and the ambition and achievement that made modern capitalism possible and brought billions of people out of poverty. Talking about Socialism is a huge luxury, a luxury that was paid for by the successes of capitalism. Income inequality is a huge problem, absolutely. But the idea that the solution is more government, more regulation, more debt, and less risk is dangerously absurd.


    https://www.facebook.com/GKKasparov/photos/a.10150570871608307.404677.243791258306/10154026351983307/?type=3&theater
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    BR1986FB;1784405 wrote:From Facebook....




    Garry Kasparov

    Yesterday at 2:57pm ·






    I'm enjoying the irony of American Sanders supporters lecturing me, a former Soviet citizen, on the glories of Socialism and what it really means! Socialism sounds great in speech soundbites and on Facebook, but please keep it there. In practice, it corrodes not only the economy but the human spirit itself, and the ambition and achievement that made modern capitalism possible and brought billions of people out of poverty. Talking about Socialism is a huge luxury, a luxury that was paid for by the successes of capitalism. Income inequality is a huge problem, absolutely. But the idea that the solution is more government, more regulation, more debt, and less risk is dangerously absurd.


    I get what he's saying .. I understand his point.. but he might as well have said "Income inequality is a huge problem, absolutely.. but tough shit it is what it is." because you never hear a solution to the problem.
  • hasbeen
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784432 wrote:I get what he's saying .. I understand his point.. but he might as well have said "Income inequality is a huge problem, absolutely.. but tough shit it is what it is." because you never hear a solution to the problem.
    Is it his job to tell you a solution? He told you, through his experience, what is NOT a solution to our problem. Cross that one off the list, what can we try next.

    I don't think he said "tough shit it is what it is", he's trying to make sure we don't make a mistake by heading down this path. The solution we are looking for is not this direction.
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    hasbeen;1784438 wrote:Is it his job to tell you a solution? He told you, through his experience, what is NOT a solution to our problem. Cross that one off the list, what can we try next.

    I don't think he said "tough shit it is what it is", he's trying to make sure we don't make a mistake by heading down this path. The solution we are looking for is not this direction.
    I didn't say that's what he said.. I said he might as well have. And no it's not his job to tell a solution, because thats the point... there is no solution. It is what it is. That's a cause of Capitalism. You're going to have more severe income inequality as it grows. The point Mr. Kasparov is so severely missing is, we're not Russia. Bernie isn't asking us to be a fascist regime. He's asking us to use the benefits of Capitalism to help everyone more. Just like the UK, Germany, France, Australia.. you know.. pretty much every other 1st world country. No ones suggesting disbanding Capitalism, just using its benefits socially more so than we are. And to suggest otherwise is blatantly wrong and a lie.
  • BR1986FB
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784432 wrote:I get what he's saying .. I understand his point.. but he might as well have said "Income inequality is a huge problem, absolutely.. but tough shit it is what it is." because you never hear a solution to the problem.
    And income inequality is where it should stay. The cream rises to the top. Who are YOU, or anyone else, to tell the hard WORKING people that are busting their ass, making a significant income, that they have to SHARE it with someone? Fuck that....earn your damn keep instead of looking for a handout (that's directed as a generality, not at you specifically Zwick).
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    BR1986FB;1784454 wrote:And income inequality is where it should stay. The cream rises to the top. Who are YOU, or anyone else, to tell the hard WORKING people that are busting their ass, making a significant income, that they have to SHARE it with someone? Fuck that....earn your damn keep instead of looking for a handout (that's directed as a generality, not at you specifically Zwick).
    Someone who's not a selfish prick? : thumbup:
  • BR1986FB
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784460 wrote:Someone who's not a selfish prick? : thumbup:
    I choose to give my money to causes other than 23 year old girls, with 7 kids, whose full-time "job" is popping out babies so she can collect a FREE check for her and her baby daddy(s).
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    BR1986FB;1784463 wrote:I choose to give my money to causes other than 23 year old girls, with 7 kids, whose full-time "job" is popping out babies so she can collect a FREE check for her and her baby daddy(s).
    You're already giving to that. What does that have to do with Bernie Sanders.
  • BR1986FB
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784466 wrote:You're already giving to that. What does that have to do with Bernie Sanders.
    It should be eliminated except for those who TRULY need it. The Democrats "party line" seems to be "free shit....give, give, give!" I have no issue giving to those that NEED it like the elderly, disabled, etc but the people that are collecting fraudulently can go to Hell.
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    BR1986FB;1784467 wrote:It should be eliminated except for those who TRULY need it. The Democrats "party line" seems to be "free shit....give, give, give!" I have no issue giving to those that NEED it like the elderly, disabled, etc but the people that are collecting fraudulently can go to Hell.
    Well we're all ears. When you come up with a feasible way to determine who needs and doesn't need assistance for 300 million people, I'm sure congress would love to hear it.
  • BR1986FB
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784468 wrote:Well we're all ears. When you come up with a feasible way to determine who needs and doesn't need assistance for 300 million people, I'm sure congress would love to hear it.
    C'mon man, everyone can see that the system is being abused. Hell, Ironman posted a thread about some dude leaving Wal-Mart with a bunch of food bought on a SNAP card that got into a high end vehicle. Shit like this is why this country is so screwed up financially.