Ukraine Revolution

• majorspark

  

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1586723 wrote:I've sold 2 iPhones on eBay and both of them went to people in Ukraine, so I'm probably a little more of an expert than you guys on this one.
  They paid top price for the phones so I'm all for it staying Ukraine.

  I hear Ukrainian women are hot. With war about to break out there will be extra incentive to get out. You may want to get into the mail order bride market.
• Classyposter58

  

  Russian irredentism at its finest
• majorspark

  

  LJ;1586726 wrote:Many of the Russian troops are carrying unloaded guns too.

  I have seen pictures of some Russian troops with their magazines removed. Rest assured it was done for propaganda purposes only and the magazines are just a quick reach into their ammo pouch. Most Russian troops in Crimea are locked and loaded.
• majorspark

  

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• LJ

  

  majorspark;1586744 wrote:I have seen pictures of some Russian troops with their magazines removed. Rest assured it was done for propaganda purposes only and the magazines are just a quick reach into their ammo pouch. Most Russian troops in Crimea are locked and loaded.

  I don't think it's for propaganda. Putin is smarter than many want to give him credit for. He will sacrifice 1,000 troops with unloaded guns if that means someone else shot first.
• majorspark

  

  Another thing to note many have been ordered or feel the need to conceal their identity. I am going with the former. Its not that cold in Crimea. Something shitty is afoot.
• majorspark

  

  LJ;1586748 wrote:I don't think it's don't for propaganda. Putin is smarter than many want to give him credit for. He will sacrifice 1,000 troops with unloaded guns if that means someone else shot first.

  No doubt he would sacrifice troops to get someone else to fire the first shots. But you know everyone of those soldiers with the magazine removed have several in their ammo pouch and their fellow soldiers in back up.
  
  Ukrainian bases within Crimea have been approach several times and given ultimatums and each time they have passed with nothing. They want mass defections or first shots. At this point they have some defections and no shots fired. But they are working on it.
• steubbigred

  majorspark;1586751 wrote:Another thing to note many have been ordered or feel the need to conceal their identity. I am going with the former. Its not that cold in Crimea. Something shitty is afoot.

  good point
• steubbigred

  majorspark;1586753 wrote:No doubt he would sacrifice troops to get someone else to fire the first shots. But you know everyone of those soldiers with the magazine removed have several in their ammo pouch and their fellow soldiers in back up.
  
  Ukrainian bases within Crimea have been approach several times and given ultimatums and each time they have passed with nothing. They want mass defections or first shots. At this point they have some defections and no shots fired. But they are working on it.

  I think you have a good understanding on this. I agree once again.
• steubbigred

  Similar methods of provocation by the Russians. Propaganda is also similar.
  
  http://youtu.be/bpYpbilZDGw
• believer

  

  http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/03/03/how-obama-could-stop-putin-ukraine-power-grab-without-firing-shot/
• Mohican00

  

  believer;1586778 wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/03/03/how-obama-could-stop-putin-ukraine-power-grab-without-firing-shot/

  Sadly, that is not the real transcript of the 90-minute Obama-Putin phone call. The real conversation probably consisted of

  
  lel, nice screenplay
• Tiernan

  The real transcript would show Putin making Obama bark like a dog on all fours.
• shook_17

  

  Obama won't do a damn thing. Just mock Romney some more.
• TedSheckler

  

  shook_17;1586935 wrote:Obama won't do a damn thing.

  And you know who's taking notes? Iran. Less than 5 months until the deadline for the nuclear deal.
• HitsRus

  

  At least there is not a fundraiser in Vegas this week!
• Classyposter58

  

  Oh god who gives a fuck let them invade Ukraine if they want. I think the funny thing is they owe Russia billions, so us giving them money will flow directly to Russia
• Tiernan

  I'm with ya Classy but it does piss me off to see Putin taking a dump on the White House porch then ringing the doorbell and not even running away...just standing there daring Barry to do anything.
• pmoney25

  

  Boy the neo cons are foaming at the mouth over this.
• believer

  

  pmoney25;1587003 wrote:Boy the neo cons are foaming at the mouth over this.

  elaborate
• QuakerOats

  pmoney25;1587003 wrote:Boy the neo cons are foaming at the mouth over this.

  
  No, just hoping for one single ounce of coherent leadership from the .............. community activist.
  
  
  Jokes on us.
• pmoney25

  

  QuakerOats;1587023 wrote:No, just hoping for one single ounce of coherent leadership from the .............. community activist.
  
  
  Jokes on us.

  Obama is a joke, no doubt. But Im curious what are your solutions to this?
• Dr Winston O'Boogie

  

  Tiernan;1586980 wrote:I'm with ya Classy but it does piss me off to see Putin taking a dump on the White House porch then ringing the doorbell and not even running away...just standing there daring Barry to do anything.

  Please enlighten us with your solution to the current situation.
• Tiernan

  Not my job Dr Boogers...the community leader gets paid the big bucks to make those decisions and so far he's done zilch. Now go back to Parma or whatever other armpit suburb you live in
• Dr Winston O'Boogie

  

  Tiernan;1587042 wrote:Not my job Dr Boogers...the community leader gets paid the big bucks to make those decisions and so far he's done zilch. Now go back to Parma or whatever other armpit suburb you live in

  He's done pretty much all he can do at this point. Short of sending US troops into Crimea, there aren't other non-economic options standing out.