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Disgusted with obama administration - Part II

  • QuakerOats
    New EPA rules push regulatory costs past $1 trillion, $3,080 per person...



    SHUT IT DOWN !!!
  • iclfan2
    Oh hey look, obamas Chicago is 50% up in murders and shootings. Good work everyone. Black lives matter... only sometimes and only to some people apparently. Let's keep bitching about social issues and a few blacks shot "unjustly" by police instead of an actual problem


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  • BoatShoes
    iclfan2;1825781 wrote:You could be half retard and be better than Pelosi... funny some lefty douche called Ryan sexist for thinking he should be there instead of her. lol wut?


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    Yes. There are elements of the Democratic party that would rather have all of Trump's alt-right white dudes pissing on them while saying "Yeah you like that oppression from my white privilege!" than support a straight white man who is sympathetic to their concerns.

    The diversity facists in the feelings caucus have to be purged and ridiculed. Never in American history has a campaign done more overt pandering to women than the Hillary campaign and Trump won 53% of white women.
  • BoatShoes
    iclfan2;1827211 wrote:Oh hey look, obamas Chicago is 50% up in murders and shootings. Good work everyone. Black lives matter... only sometimes and only to some people apparently. Let's keep bitching about social issues and a few blacks shot "unjustly" by police instead of an actual problem


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    Dude, these people talk about inner city violence a lot. The MEDIA only jumps in when there is a chance to stoke that racial tension and rack up the page views.

    It is the same with terrorism. Moderate muslim orgs in America always condemn the radicals but the media does not cover it...and then people say "Well why don't moderate muslims condemn terrorists"
  • CenterBHSFan
    Seems Bowe Bergdahl is asking for a pardon from President Obama.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/us/politics/bowe-bergdahl-asks-obama-for-pardon.html?_r=0

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/02/doj-confirms-bergdahl-requests-pardon-from-president-obama-us-officials.html

    Thoughts?
  • like_that
    Obama paraded him around as a victory, so it wouldn't shock me. Has he even been court martialed yet?
  • queencitybuckeye
    iclfan2;1827211 wrote:Oh hey look, obamas Chicago is 50% up in murders and shootings. Good work everyone. Black lives matter... only sometimes and only to some people apparently. Let's keep bitching about social issues and a few blacks shot "unjustly" by police instead of an actual problem


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    Now THAT'S a "sanctuary city".
  • CenterBHSFan
    like_that;1827692 wrote:Obama paraded him around as a victory, so it wouldn't shock me. Has he even been court martialed yet?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowe_Bergdahl
    In December 2015, Abrams rejected the recommendation and ordered that Bergdahl face a general court-martial on the two charges, which could impose up to a life sentence.[SUP][7][/SUP][SUP][118][/SUP] His trial is set for February 2017.[SUP][119][/SUP] Regarding these charges, Bergdahl has sought a pardon from President Obama.[SUP][120][/SUP]
  • like_that
    That's what I figured. Court martials are designed for the defendant to lose.
  • Con_Alma
    like_that;1827692 wrote:Obama paraded him around as a victory, so it wouldn't shock me. Has he even been court martialed yet?
    Agreed. It wouldn't be shocking were he pardoned based on the manner the President put him on display. I would be sickened if either he or Snowden got their free pass from the PRes.
  • SportsAndLady
    Snowden should most definitely be pardoned.
  • Con_Alma
    This is just one of the standards for consideration for pardon.

    "The extent to which a petitioner has accepted responsibility for his or her criminal conduct and made restitution to its victims are important considerations. A petitioner should be genuinely desirous of forgiveness rather than vindication. While the absence of expressions of remorse should not preclude favorable consideration, a petitioner's attempt to minimize or rationalize culpability does not advance the case for pardon. In this regard, statements made in mitigation (e.g., "everybody was doing it," or "I didn't realize it was illegal") should be judged in context. Persons seeking a pardon on grounds of innocence or miscarriage of justice bear a formidable burden of persuasion."

    Has Snowden exhibited any remorse? Is he looking for forgiveness or vindication??

  • Spock
    people dies looking for this deserter. No pardon.
  • Automatik
    Spock;1827874 wrote:people dies looking for this deserter. No pardon.

    According to everything I've read/heard, no one died due to the search for Bergdahl.

    That being said, no fucking way he should be pardoned.
  • QuakerOats
    http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2016/12/16/michelle-obama-says-america-is-entering-a-time-of-hopelessness/



    Good riddance ........................... Christ, we have more hope to save the republic than we've had in 2 decades.
  • CenterBHSFan
    I fundamentally disagree with her on many levels.
    What hope are we missing out on? More boondoggles like Obamacare? More free cell phone? More Prius's? More ISIS? More coal mines/steel mills/etc. shutting down? Did we not get enough windmills put up? Did we not separate enough people into categories? Did we not have enough riots and destruction? Did we not get enough of Hillary Clinton over the decades? Did we not do enough direction to kids' school lunches? Did we not get enough of Michael Brown? Did we not get insulted, as a whole, enough? Did we not get enough of the orgasmic media? What hope are we missing out on, here?
    I mean, really.
  • Spock
    QuakerOats;1828920 wrote:http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2016/12/16/michelle-obama-says-america-is-entering-a-time-of-hopelessness/



    Good riddance ........................... Christ, we have more hope to save the republic than we've had in 2 decades.


    both of those women are very close to being irrelevant
  • gut
    CenterBHSFan;1828954 wrote:I fundamentally disagree with her on many levels.
    The whitewashing of Obama's legacy is already beginning. His failures and shortcomings will be attributable to Bush (doggone, 8 years just wasn't enough) and you can bet any successes of Trump are going to get credited to Obama.

    You run on hope & change, and Trump's election (but all the seats Repubs have picked-up nationwide) are a direct result of your policies and actions...and you have the arrogance to say we've entered a time of hopelessness? Obama has to own that - can't blame that on Bush.

    America being more divided and more angry than it was 8 years ago is not because of Bush, and it's not because of Fox News. It's the "change" that Obama and the Dems own. The current state of ugliness is mainly because of the identity politics and demagoguery embraced by Dems over the past 8-10 years. Many of them haven't figured that out yet and/or continue to do it - it's who they are and it's the only way they know to lead, the only messaging they have is "you're a victim, I can help".
  • like_that
    gut;1828989 wrote:The whitewashing of Obama's legacy is already beginning. His failures and shortcomings will be attributable to Bush (doggone, 8 years just wasn't enough) and you can bet any successes of Trump are going to get credited to Obama.

    You run on hope & change, and Trump's election (but all the seats Repubs have picked-up nationwide) are a direct result of your policies and actions...and you have the arrogance to say we've entered a time of hopelessness? Obama has to own that - can't blame that on Bush.

    America being more divided and more angry than it was 8 years ago is not because of Bush, and it's not because of Fox News. It's the "change" that Obama and the Dems own. The current state of ugliness is mainly because of the identity politics and demagoguery embraced by Dems over the past 8-10 years. Many of them haven't figured that out yet and/or continue to do it - it's who they are and it's the only way they know to lead, the only messaging they have is "you're a victim, I can help".
    You have to love how he is now a tough guy against Russia one month before his departure though!
  • Spock
    like_that;1828994 wrote:You have to love how he is now a tough guy against Russia one month before his departure though!

    this.
  • BoatShoes
    gut;1828989 wrote:The whitewashing of Obama's legacy is already beginning. His failures and shortcomings will be attributable to Bush (doggone, 8 years just wasn't enough) and you can bet any successes of Trump are going to get credited to Obama.

    You run on hope & change, and Trump's election (but all the seats Repubs have picked-up nationwide) are a direct result of your policies and actions...and you have the arrogance to say we've entered a time of hopelessness? Obama has to own that - can't blame that on Bush.

    America being more divided and more angry than it was 8 years ago is not because of Bush, and it's not because of Fox News. It's the "change" that Obama and the Dems own. The current state of ugliness is mainly because of the identity politics and demagoguery embraced by Dems over the past 8-10 years. Many of them haven't figured that out yet and/or continue to do it - it's who they are and it's the only way they know to lead, the only messaging they have is "you're a victim, I can help".
    While I disagree that the "you're a victim I can help" message is the only message dems can offer, I agree that they have gone all in on that and Obama's obstinance in the face of committed opposition as opposed to a genuine effort consensus was key in creating an environment wherein voters were amenable to a Trump type figure.
  • BoatShoes
    like_that;1828994 wrote:You have to love how he is now a tough guy against Russia one month before his departure though!
    Not sure telling Russia to "cut it out" qualifies as tough lol:RpS_flapper:
  • CenterBHSFan
    BoatShoes;1829063 wrote:While I disagree that the "you're a victim I can help" message is the only message dems can offer,
    What else do they offer, besides "free stuff"? I'm genuinely interested in your/anybody's answer, because I truly do not see anything. This may or may not be because of my disgust against R's and D's, so I admit that now. But seriously... what does the democrat policy offer the average person? Or any person?
  • Spock
    Obama and the complisent media is just trying so hard to run with the Russia narative. They have no evidence. He is not doing anything. Its all words.
  • gut
    Spock;1829090 wrote:Obama and the complisent media is just trying so hard to run with the Russia narative. They have no evidence. He is not doing anything. Its all words.
    This is their Benghazi....they're going to use this to undermine Trump as illegitimate before he even takes office.