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Governor Kasich

  • Con_Alma
    He's a voter. His opinion will dictate how he places his vote in the next election. Statistics and polls won't. QuakerOats opinion will.
  • Writerbuckeye
    Bigdogg;838700 wrote:That's your opinion and by the way is not shared by the majority of Americans. Only you and your FOX and Friends.

    When people throw a line like this in their response, I say they've all but surrendered. It's a non sequitur that adds zip to the topic and only shows the depth of the poster's ignorance.
  • LJ
    Ok... Kasich has really pissed me off....
    And the governor won't be spending the night at the fair. John Kasich has declined to sleep in a barn


    http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/07/24/158th-ohio-state-fair-to-feature-throwbacks-surprises.html?sid=101
  • Writerbuckeye

    What a fool. Doesn't he know a barn is the perfect place to make hay while you can? ;)
  • QuakerOats
    Bigdogg;838700 wrote:That's your opinion and by the way is not shared by the majority of Americans. Only you and your FOX and Friends.

    It is not opinion; it is logical conclusion drawn from everday business experience and dialogue with many business executives and also ordinary Americans who are highly concerned about our fiscal mess and the inability of the activist/agitator-in-chief to formulate a vision and a plan for realistically dealing with our massive problems. His regime is hell bent on dismantling capitalism and putting our own resources and means to production off limits to the citizens, a view that is diametrically opposed to everything that creates wealth, spawns innovation, and powers our economic engine. We are facing a disaster in 2013 due to new obamacare taxes and the expiration of prior tax cuts, and most forward-thinking business people know it. As a result, they have little confidence and will not take on additional risk. Sorry you either don't understand this, or are unwilling to acknowledge it.
  • Bigdogg
    Writerbuckeye;840071 wrote:What a fool. Doesn't he know a barn is the perfect place to make hay while you can? ;)

    That's a shame, Writer was waiting for him.

  • Prescott
    Were #5 Where are the jobs!
    If Obama and his supporters can blame Bush after 2 1/2 years in office, I think it is fair for Kasich, who has been in office 7 months, to blame Strickland for everything.
  • Writerbuckeye
    Bigdogg;840667 wrote:That's a shame, Writer was waiting for him.


    And you whine when you think people call you names....hypocrite.
  • Bigdogg
    Writerbuckeye;840795 wrote:And you whine when you think people call you names....hypocrite.

    Easy writer, it's all in fun! I don't whine about it at all. LJ gets his rocks off giving me some kind of silly point infractions and threatens to ban me from his forum for saying the same things most people do on here. I like to bust his chops by pointing out how much of an inconsistent blow hard he really is.
  • LJ
    Bigdogg;841448 wrote:Easy writer, it's all in fun! I don't whine about it at all. LJ gets his rocks off giving me some kind of silly point infractions and threatens to ban me from his forum for saying the same things most people do on here. I like to bust his chops by pointing out how much of an inconsistent blow hard he really is.

    Except I infract anyone for pulling the shit you do. Writer has infractions from me.
  • Bigdogg
    LJ;841455 wrote:Except I infract anyone for pulling the shit you do. Writer has infractions from me.

  • Al Bundy
    LJ;841455 wrote:Except I infract anyone for pulling the **** you do. Writer has infractions from me.

    But the D's start out on double-secret probation :)
  • fish82
    Al Bundy;841839 wrote:But the D's start out on double-secret probation :)
    As well they should. 75% of them are idiots.
  • coyotes22
    fish82;841922 wrote:As well they should. 75% of them are idiots.

    Thats a modest number. :D

    Double-secret for Double-talkers
  • Bigdogg
    coyotes22;841926 wrote:Thats a modest number. :D

    Double-secret for Double-talkers

    Good thing I am a registered Republican that votes independently then:) Some of you blind idiots would have voted for Hitler if he would have been on your ticket.
  • coyotes22
    Bigdogg;842556 wrote:Good thing I am a registered Republican that votes independently then:) Some of you blind idiots would have voted for Hitler if he would have been on your ticket.
    Only if he agreed to keep cutting taxes, and balances the budget. :D
  • Writerbuckeye
    Everyone knows Hitler would most certainly have been a Democrat.

    Look how he was able to "capture" Jewish voters. ;)
  • Bigdogg
    Writerbuckeye;842886 wrote:Everyone knows Hitler would most certainly have been a Democrat.
    I think he would fit into more your political views.
    Nazism (Nationalsozialismus, National Socialism; alternatively spelled Naziism[1]; historically also Hitlerism,[2] Hitlerismus[3]) was the ideology and practice of the Nazi Party and of Nazi Germany.[4][5][6][7] It was a unique variety of fascism that incorporated biological racism and antisemitism.[8] Nazism presented itself as politically syncretic, incorporating policies, tactics and philosophies from right- and left-wing ideologies, though a majority of scholars hold it to be a far right form of politics.[9]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
  • Al Bundy
    Writerbuckeye;842886 wrote:Everyone knows Hitler would most certainly have been a Democrat.

    Look how he was able to "capture" Jewish voters. ;)

    His obsession with destroying unions sounds like another party :)
  • majorspark
    Interesting ballot issues on the ballot in Nov. 2012. SB5 and Obama care. I am not much for direct democracy at this level of government. But its available in Ohio and should bring more people to the polls.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/27/ohio-voters-to-decide-on-opting-out-health-care-law/?test=latestnews
  • Writerbuckeye
    Bigdogg;842933 wrote:I think he would fit into more your political views.



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

    Yep. And you'd be the first person in the cattle car if I ever got in power. Enjoy those showers!
  • Bigdogg
    Writerbuckeye;843654 wrote:Yep. And you'd be the first person in the cattle car if I ever got in power. Enjoy those showers!

    Thank you, but fortunately I will never have to worry about people like you ever getting elected for Dictator in this country. You might try the Middle East, you would be perfect.
  • Bigdogg
    I saw Kasich taking credit on Fox for "creating" 45,000 jobs in Ohio. Glad Fact Check called him out on his lie.

    http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2011/sep/12/john-kasich/gov-john-kasich-touts-administration-role-creating/
    [h=1]Gov. John Kasich touts administration role in creating "a net increase of 45,000 jobs"[/h] [h=4]Share this story:[/h]



    Gov. John Kasich recently appeared on Fox News — his old stomping grounds — to tout Ohio’s improved credit and economic outlook.

    In an interview on "Fox and Friends," the governor noted that Standard & Poor’s Ratings Services had recently announced that it was upping Ohio’s credit outlook to stable from negative, but that it was keeping the state’s actual credit rating at AA+.

    The vote of confidence is good news, because if S&P decides to increase the rating to AAA in the future, it would make it cheaper for the state to borrow money.

    S&P showed Ohio some love after Kasich and like-minded legislators approved a state budget that covered a projected deficit estimated in the billions and because the state was undergoing a modest economic recovery.

    In the interview, Kasich rightly took credit for the budget balancing, adding that the improved credit outlook sends a message that Ohio is a good place to do business.

    And among his comments: "Since the beginning of the year we’ve created a net increase of 45,000 jobs. Our unemployment has ticked up because we’re not creating as many jobs as we need, but the fact is we are net up in job creation."

    Creating jobs is Kasich’s job one, so PolitiFact Ohio decided to take a look.

    The statistic itself is easy to check. Ohio did add 45,100 jobs from the end of January through July, according to Ohio Labor Market Information, a division of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services.

    In fact, if you include January (Kasich was sworn in Jan. 10), you could add another 34,100 jobs since the first of the year.

    But can the governor take credit for the job growth, as he seemed to be doing on Fox News?

    Specifically, Kasich said the improved credit outlook, "sends a signal, not just to the citizens here but to businesses in our state and businesses around the country that Ohio is open for business because at the end of the day you want to make sure that you’re creating jobs and since the beginning of the year we’ve created a net increase of 45,000 jobs. Our unemployment has ticked up because we’re not creating as many jobs as we need, but the fact is we are net up in job creation."

    Politicians like to tout good things that happen on their watch (or bad things on their opponent’s).

    As his term was about to expire, outgoing Gov. Strickland noted the state’s unemployment trend was already improving, just in time for Kasich to take credit for it.

    "We are one of only two states to have eight consecutive months of declining unemployment," Strickland said. PolitiFact Ohio checked the numbers and rated his claim True.

    On the flip side, Republicans hammered Strickland over Ohio job losses during the gubernatorial campaign. In their campaign against Strickland. "Ohio lost 400,000 jobs on his watch," the Republican Governors Association proclaimed in an attack ad.

    PolitiFact Ohio rated that claim Half True. The number was correct, but it was inaccurate to put all the blame for Ohio’s economic woes on Strickland.

    Two experts we talked to agreed Kasich’s policies are pro-business. But neither believes Kasich can take credit for the creation of 45,100 jobs.

    What really drives job creation is the business cycle, and that began to turn around in June of 2009, said Ken Mayland, an economist with ClearView Economics in Pepper Pike, Ohio.

    Job creation numbers going back to January 2010 prove that out. Ohio has created 104,300 jobs over that time.

    "It helps to have the business cycle for you as opposed to against you," Mayland said.

    Just ask former President George H.W. Bush.

    The elder Bush lost his re-election to Bill Clinton despite a recovering economy, Mayland said, because the perception was that the economy was doing poorly. Clinton "basically rode the economic wave upwards through the rest of the ’90s, or a good part of ’90s," he said.

    Leroy Brooks, Mellen Chair of Finance at John Carroll University, also credits the job growth during Kasich’s term so far to a continuation of what started last year when demand for Ohio products started to increase and inventories started coming down.

    "He did not cause the growth we had in the first couple quarters," Brooks said.

    That said, Brooks would agree that Kasich’s policies are more likely to produce jobs, but if the economy retrenches as some are predicting, it won’t really matter.

    The governor stands by his statement. His spokesman Rob Nichols claims Strickland would have hiked taxes to balance the budget and that would have hurt job creation.

    "We would not be creating the jobs we are now," he said. He further cites an CNBC survey that pushed Ohio from 34 to 23 in its rankings for "America’s top states for business."

    But that misses the point.

    There is an element of truth in the governor’s statement: Ohio did add 45,100 jobs from the end of January through July.

    But the portion of the statement where the governor says "we’ve created" the jobs ignores some critical facts that would give a different impression.

    While the economists we talked to agree that the governor’s policies could be good for job creation or retention in the long run, they also agree it’s too soon to tell. There hasn’t been enough time for them to kick in, they say.

    Standard & Poors cited Ohio’s balanced budget as having a positive impact, but that didn’t happen until the end of June.

    Ohio has registered job growth since early last year, well before Kasich was elected. And while his efforts have received some positive reviews, there are many factors beyond the governor’s office that impact job growth.

    On the Truth-O-Meter, we rate Kasich’s claim Mostly False.
  • Writerbuckeye
    So he's on an even keel with every other politician out there, but not nearly as big a liar as Obama.

    Got it.
  • queencitybuckeye
    Nice necropost.