Fed to sue Arizona over immigration law

• FairwoodKing

  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37789246/ns/politics-the_new_york_times/
  
  Normally I support President Obama and his policies. But this is one time when I think he's dead wrong. The only reason Arizona passed this law was because the federal government wasn't doing enough to protect our borders and to keep illegals out. Arizona is suffering because of illegal immigration and the people had to do something.
  
  I needed some work done on my home. My neighbor suggested I go to Home Depot and pick up a few Mexicans. I declined, even though I speak Spanish and talking to them would not have been a problem. I hired some Americans instead. I paid more and the work wasn't very good, but at least I have the satisfaction of knowing that I did not add to the problem with illegals.
• iclfan2

  

  This administration is a damn joke. They don't have anything better to do than this? What happened to states rights?
• Belly35

  

  Fed sue Arizona over immigration laws that are in compliance to federal laws but the federal laws where never enforced by the federal government ....... but go on a nation wide hunt for 17 Afghan that the government brought to this country to train but they decided to skip the training and enjoy America ..........and one Afghan has even become a American citizen (that respectable and honest act). The Obama Administration and the Public Servant are out of touch with the morals and values of this great Nation.
• believer

  

  iclfan2;394837 wrote:This administration is a damn joke. They don't have anything better to do than this? What happened to states rights?

  Those went out the door after the Civil War and the introduction of the all-encompassing "Commerce Clause."
• majorspark

  

  It is apparent that the administration is more in touch with the citizens of foreign nations. Personally I don't give a shit what people in these two countries think of our domestic policies. They can kiss my red, white, and blue ass.
  

  A State Department spokesman, Philip J. Crowley, said Mrs. Clinton was responding to deep unhappiness over the law that has been expressed in Mexico and other Latin American countries. At home, polls show that a majority of Americans support the law, or at least the concept of states more rigorously enforcing immigration laws

  As for this announcement of a dispute over our internal domestic policy on foreign television to a foreign audience shows the apparent disdain many have for this country. Have a little respect for this country and its rule of law and lets keep our domestic disputes here at home.
  

  “This is no way to treat the people of Arizona,” the governor said in a statement. “To learn of this lawsuit through an Ecuadorean interview with the Secretary of State is just outrageous. If our own government intends to sue our state to prevent illegal immigration enforcement, the least it can do is inform us before it informs the citizens of another nation.”

  Those are two things that jumped out to me in the article. Lets not forget Philipe Calderon shitting on Arizona in the house before a joint session of congress and one side of the isle standing up and applauding and the other sitting on their ass without the balls to let out one boo, hiss, or better yet you better get your ass back to Mexico.
• Mr. 300

  

  It's official. This admin is has now gone past GWB for the biggest losers to fill the POTUS
• believer

  

  Mr. 300;394910 wrote:It's official. This admin is has now gone past GWB for the biggest losers to fill the POTUS

  Carter's definitely in that mix. Don't forget Jimmy Boy.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  Unbelievable.
  
  Putrid rot!
• CenterBHSFan

  

  But, you know... I'm not suprised. At all.
  
  And people wonder why others are bitching about our federal government and President Obama?!
  
  Really???
• IggyPride00

  

  With an entire ecosystem being destroyed in the Gulf, unemployment stagnating near double digits, wars in two foreign lands and crippling budget deficits, Obama has the time, energy and money to persecute Arizonans for doing their best to pick up for the slack of the Federal Government in enforcing immigration laws

  Saw this quote on Redstate and it seemed entirely appropriate.
  
  This was another one of my favorites:

  Of course the Administration announced the lawsuit in a foreign land. When you are a “Citizen of the World” that would be perfectly appropriate. As an American Citizen, however, I am deeply insulted. “Obama’s not a foreigner, he just acts like one”.

  I do find it rather peculiar that the Secretary of State made the announcement first breaking the news that our government was suing one of its own states while doing an interview in a foreign land for the people of Ecuador. Doesn't necessarily strike me as the appropriate venue, but that has never really mattered much to our humble, beloved public servant.
• IggyPride00

  

  
  
  I was reading an article somewhat relating to the Arizona law and the main premise behind it was that we can expect the President to fight tooth and nail against a papers law because he fundamentally does not believe in the need for them as there is still a group in this country that does not believe he has showed sufficient papers to have his job. I saw that picture again though and just started laughing because it just seemed kind of funny to me in the context of everything going on surrounding the immigration debate.
• Belly35

  

  Obama Public Servant only .............. I do like the Undocumented Worker
• believer

  

  ccrunner609;395315 wrote:Obama just needs to keep rockin and rollin on this one....................I said it along time ago and still holds true today.........he is a one term president (and will go down in the hall of fame of bad presidents as maybe the worst)

  Bad or not the mainstream media, $oro$/MoveOn.org, the Chicago Political Machine, etc. will do everything they can to cast the Anointed One in the best possible light they can by playing the race card, by playing the Bush Blame game, etc, etc.
  
  Plus unless the Repubs find a compelling candidate of their own and snowballs-chance third party candidates continue to sap crucial votes, BHO could be re-elected easily by default.
  
  Finally there will be enough pointy headed "socialism has all the answers" disciples left over to help the Anointed One pull out a squeaker.
• IggyPride00

  

  I do like the Undocumented Worker

  I had a feeling you might when I saw that picture.
  
  Although this one I also just saw is running a close second.
  
  
  
  Squatter in Chief was pretty funny I thought.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  When was the last time, or last incident, when our federal government projected hostile legislation towards one of our states - which by law (federal/state) the state was in the right??
• iclfan2

  

  Maybe AZ can talk Texas into both of them seceding. That'd be cool.
• I Wear Pants

  believer;395336 wrote:Bad or not the mainstream media, $oro$/MoveOn.org, the Chicago Political Machine, etc. will do everything they can to cast the Anointed One in the best possible light they can by playing the race card, by playing the Bush Blame game, etc, etc.
  
  Plus unless the Repubs find a compelling candidate of their own and snowballs-chance third party candidates continue to sap crucial votes, BHO could be re-elected easily by default.
  
  Finally there will be enough pointy headed "socialism has all the answers" disciples left over to help the Anointed One pull out a squeaker.

  The only people who whine about the Bush blame are the people who think Bush wasn't a terrible president. The only people who still blame Bush for Obama's shortcomings are idiots though so...
  
  There are some things that Bush did horribly which do and have carried over to this administration, the two wars being one of those things. However, there has been and still is plenty of time for this administration to make itself on its own action rather than to continue down the road looking silly for trying to fix others messes.
  
  Moral of the story: Do Work.
  
  Edit: The "Obama isn't a citizen" stuff is just as and probably more silly though.
• Al Bundy

  I Wear Pants;395477 wrote:The only people who whine about the Bush blame are the people who think Bush wasn't a terrible president. The only people who still blame Bush for Obama's shortcomings are idiots though so...
  
  There are some things that Bush did horribly which do and have carried over to this administration, the two wars being one of those things. However, there has been and still is plenty of time for this administration to make itself on its own action rather than to continue down the road looking silly for trying to fix others messes.
  
  Moral of the story: Do Work.
  
  Edit: The "Obama isn't a citizen" stuff is just as and probably more silly though.

  I am registered as a Dem and think that Bush was terrible. Obama is 17 months into his term. The blaming Bush game is just an excuse. Shouldn't Obama at least be improving the things that he blames Bush for. Many of the things that Obama blames Bush for have become worse since Obama took over.
• IggyPride00

  

  On June 18, 2010, Arizona Republican Senator Jon Kyl told the audience at a North Tempe Tea Party town hall meeting that during a private, one-on-one meeting with President Obama in the Oval Office, the President told him, regarding securing the southern border with Mexico, “The problem is, . . . if we secure the border, then you all won’t have any reason to support ‘comprehensive immigration reform.’” [Audible gasps were heard throughout the audience.] Sen. Kyl continued, “In other words, they’re holding it hostage. They don’t want to secure the border unless and until it is combined with ‘comprehensive immigration reform.’”
  
  Sen. Kyl also said he reminded President Obama that the President and the Congress has an obligation, a duty, to secure the border.

  http://www.redstate.com/coldwarrior/2010/06/20/obama-tells-kyl-in-private-oval-office-meeting-i-wont-secure-border-bc-then-republicans-will-have-no-reason-to-support-comprehensive-immigration-reform/#comments
  
  This is from an excerpt posted on Redstate.
  
  Source aside, if this exchange really happened between Obama and Kyl it is disturbing.
  
  Notice how I said disturbing instead of surprising. This is real bare knuckle politics, as Obama is holding border security hostage in exchange for amnesty for the 12+ million future democrat votes from grateful immigrants that would be legalized as well as Latinos as a whole. BHO realizes if the Democrat party is able to co-opt the Latino vote the way they have the black vote they can set up a permanent majority given the demographics of this country the next 50 years. He wants to be seen as their great liberator.
  
  To think though he would verbally tell a U.S senator he planned on abdicating his role of protecting the American people and let the border stay porous until he gets amnesty is pretty ballsy. BHO has no fear of the electorate, and this is and example pure hardcore Chicago politics at work.
• tk421

  

  Obama should be impeached for that. He won't, though, because the media refuse to do their jobs. Unfuckingbelievable. Hope and change.
• Glory Days

  

  Al Bundy;395525 wrote:I am registered as a Dem and think that Bush was terrible. Obama is 17 months into his term. The blaming Bush game is just an excuse. Shouldn't Obama at least be improving the things that he blames Bush for. Many of the things that Obama blames Bush for have become worse since Obama took over.

  
  not only that, he has continued many of the Bush policies that he criticized Bush about. interesting how things changed for him once he was elected.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  Is there anybody on this board who is willing to show that they support what's going on here?
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  Anybody?
• ~U~

  iclfan2;394837 wrote:This administration is a damn joke. They don't have anything better to do than this? What happened to states rights?

  
  Yea! Dammit, this administration needs to invade a country on false claims to be a good administration for the right wing tea baggers.
  
  
  Yea, states rights!! Next thing you know all states will have legal drinking age of 21. Oh...
• I Wear Pants

  Al Bundy;395525 wrote:I am registered as a Dem and think that Bush was terrible. Obama is 17 months into his term. The blaming Bush game is just an excuse. Shouldn't Obama at least be improving the things that he blames Bush for. Many of the things that Obama blames Bush for have become worse since Obama took over.

  Read the sentence directly after the one you bolded.
• majorspark

  

  ~U~;395820 wrote:Yea! Dammit, this administration needs to invade a country on false claims to be a good administration for the right wing tea baggers.
  
  
  Yea, states rights!! Next thing you know all states will have legal drinking age of 21. Oh...

  
  Remember it was the federal government that invaded Iraq. Maybe if we followed the constitution to the letter, as the states allowed federal power concerning war, and formally declared war this would not have happened.
  
  What a shame the federal government forced all states to make the legal drinking age to be 21, yet somehow finds 18yr old kids responsible enough to take part and die in their ordered invasion.
  
  Can you answer that for us since you think states rights are so shitty?