It just keeps getting better…..not. 

posted by Laley23

Gut man, Watson is worse. Ben’s still a pos who pressured 2 different girls into stuff. He is not a good dude.

LOL, no.  The first accuser beget the second, and the first named him in a wrongful termination suit against some casino.  She was a nutjob - literally - receiving counseling.  Plainly obvious there was no assault and she name dropped to help her case.

The second was the girls were following him on social media, saw he was in town and followed him around to bars.  Cops on the scene thought the accusations were complete BS, but her spurned sorority sisters were what continued that.  And they knew about the first allegation, which likely triggered it all.  Rumor had it prosecutors dropped the case when she claimed not to have been sexually active for months, but DNA profiles showed multiple partners in recent days.  Prosecutors had been fighting to get DNA from Roethlisberger, then suddenly dropped it all.  So it's a good bet the rumors were true.  I saw video of her police interviews - she was not coerced or assaulted.

He was certainly a douche and treated women badly, like a lot of 20-something dudes especially athletes with money,  but "forced" is likely total bullshit.  And by all accounts he's been a good family man for years.

posted by BR1986FB

The guy had a bunch of fanboy cops protecting his ass in Milledgville protecting his his ass so don't give me that crap. They completely botched that investigation. If you want to continue to throw out the term "serial", see Laley's comments about Findlay. Roethlisberger's crap went back to high school.

Sure.  That's why he was never arrested and no one ever sought an indictment.  And he's such a predator that 20+ more women came forward.  Oh wait, that never happened.

posted by gut

LOL, no.  The first accuser beget the second, and the first named him in a wrongful termination suit against some casino.  She was a nutjob - literally - receiving counseling.  Plainly obvious there was no assault and she name dropped to help her case.

The second was the girls were following him on social media, saw he was in town and followed him around to bars.  Cops on the scene thought the accusations were complete BS, but her spurned sorority sisters were what continued that.  And they knew about the first allegation, which likely triggered it all.  Rumor had it prosecutors dropped the case when she claimed not to have been sexually active for months, but DNA profiles showed multiple partners in recent days.  Prosecutors had been fighting to get DNA from Roethlisberger, then suddenly dropped it all.  So it's a good bet the rumors were true.  I saw video of her police interviews - she was not coerced or assaulted.

He was certainly a douche and treated women badly, like a lot of 20-something dudes especially athletes with money,  but "forced" is likely total bullshit.  And by all accounts he's been a good family man for years.

Gut says that Ben's accusers lied, and Trevor Bauer tweeted that Watson's accusers lied, so I guess that everyone is innocent.🙄

posted by Al Bundy

Gut says that Ben's accusers lied, and Trevor Bauer tweeted that Watson's accusers lied, so I guess that everyone is innocent.🙄

22 >>>>2

I don’t know what any of those guys did with their dicks

posted by Ironman92

I don’t know what any of those guys did with their dicks

22 women seem to know what Watson did with his dick

posted by gut

22 women seem to know what Watson did with his dick

Takes a real piece of shit to defend a piece of shit. Don't think you see anyone on here defending Watson for being a POS but you're willing to dive on the sword for Roethlisberger.

2 > 0 is all that matters.

posted by queencitybuckeye

2 > 0 is all that matters.

It's actually 3 (accusers) in Ben's case.

If true, Baker was kind of a bitch

Baker Mayfield had no intentions of playing for the #Browns in 2022, which may have revived the Deshaun Watson trade. He was prepared to sit out offseason program, minicamp, training camp & more if that's what it took: Browns Insider https://t.co/awZQPVKQmu

— Mary Kay Cabot (@MaryKayCabot) March 20, 2022

Why would he do that?

Because he’s butt hurt. 

I’m surprised you guys think that. They said they wanted an adult at QB.

posted by Ironman92

Why would he do that?

Seems like, after the fact (as usual), it's coming out that Mayfield wasn't the greatest locker room guy. As BRF said, also sounds like he was kind of "butt hurt" that the organization didn't offer him a fat contract extension.

I was a Mayfield supporter and was willing to run it back with him for one more season to see if he could correct some issues but his petulant/child-like response to the Browns investigating Watson was too much for me. Should've just put in the work, balled out and gave the Browns the middle finger AFTER the season but there's a trend here. See how all of this stuff's hitting the media about him wanting traded, to whom, etc? That's part of the problem with him. HE'S the one leaking it all.

posted by BRF

Because he’s butt hurt. 

(Where colin was right)

posted by gut

22 women seem to know what Watson did with his dick

Personally, I'm just sitting back now and loving life. So many years of some Browns fans automatically resorting to "Rapistberger" as a defensive mechanism to cope with what was a massive disparity in on-field success throughout the lion's share of his career, essentially saying, "Yeah, we might lose all the time, but WE HAVE CHARACTER!!!!". And now, just when it seemed they were legitimately turning things around, they suffered a setback last year and immediately sold their soul to get one of the few people who (allegedly) is a worse human being as far as "rapistry" is concerned.

For me, this is the greatest win-win situation in the history of win-win situations, especially since the Steelers have entered this period of purgatory where they're too good to be in contention for a top draft pick to really start turning things around, but they're not good enough to actually compete. If the move doesn't work for the Browns, they mortgaged the future for a POS, got nothing out of the deal and still are looking up at everyone in the standings. If it does work, I'm going to have a robust future of delivering sexual assault joke after sexual assault joke day after day, week after week with no filter, qualms or morality telling me that I might be going way too far as I morph into the sort of site villain that guys like Sleeper, Sage and Tiernan could only have wet dreams about becoming in their wildest fantasies.

ON TOP OF THE WORLD, BAYYYY-BEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

Damn....Browns may have to give away Mayfield.

^^^^^^ Tellin’ it like it is. 

(Heretic, that is.)

posted by BR1986FB

Damn....Browns may have to give away Mayfield.

Why do you say that?  (because I had been thinking that for several days now)

posted by BRF

Why do you say that?  (because I had been thinking that for several days now)

Colts just traded for Matt Ryan. Falcons probably going with Mariota. Niners supposedly have a trade in place for Jimmy G. Carolina "may" have some interest but even if the Browns get anything, it likely won't be much. Running out of seats in the NFL musical chairs.

EDIT: The way it's looking, the Browns are going to either have to add picks or at least pay part of Mayfield's 18.8m contract to move him.

posted by BRF

^^^^^^ Tellin’ it like it is. 

(Heretic, that is.)

Not really (outside of the move not working part).   Steelers fans went through mental gymnastics for nearly 2 decades trying to explain how Rapistberger was innocent and could never admit they were rooting for a POS to carry them to SBs.  Look at gut, he still is defending him.  I don't see that happening here.  Until I see the same thing happening, it's not the same. 

I have joked on this site that I would root for hitler if it meant a SB, so if Watson brings Ws I will accept the Ws, while acknowledging he is a POS.   If this means that Watson tea bags the Steelers yearly, I will talk shit and give 0 fucks if any Steelers fan mentions anything about morality, considering they gave 0 fucks about that for nearly 2 decades. 

^^^^^^ Also tellin’ it like it is.

posted by like_that

Not really (outside of the move not working part).   Steelers fans went through mental gymnastics for nearly 2 decades trying to explain how Rapistberger was innocent and could never admit they were rooting for a POS to carry them to SBs.  Look at gut, he still is defending him.  I don't see that happening here.  Until I see the same thing happening, it's not the same. 

I have joked on this site that I would root for hitler if it meant a SB, so if Watson brings Ws I will accept the Ws, while acknowledging he is a POS.   If this means that Watson tea bags the Steelers yearly, I will talk shit and give 0 fucks if any Steelers fan mentions anything about morality, considering they gave 0 fucks about that for nearly 2 decades. 

Agreed. I haven't seen anyone here defending Watson or saying he's without fault where I saw a lot of "accused but never tried/convicted" when it came to Ben. 

I'm not going to say I'm overjoyed at the fact we're rooting for a team lead by a bad guy but I'm also not going to drop a team I've rooted for 45+ years.

posted by like_that

Not really (outside of the move not working part).   Steelers fans went through mental gymnastics for nearly 2 decades trying to explain how Rapistberger was innocent and could never admit they were rooting for a POS to carry them to SBs.  Look at gut, he still is defending him.  I don't see that happening here.  Until I see the same thing happening, it's not the same. 

I have joked on this site that I would root for hitler if it meant a SB, so if Watson brings Ws I will accept the Ws, while acknowledging he is a POS.   If this means that Watson tea bags the Steelers yearly, I will talk shit and give 0 fucks if any Steelers fan mentions anything about morality, considering they gave 0 fucks about that for nearly 2 decades. 

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