posted by Commander of Awesome

Browns signed Elliot Wolf and twitter seems to like the move.

 

In terms of Browns HC ranking I'll go with this (starting in 1999):

1. Butch Davis

2. RAC

3. Chris Palmer

4. Hue Jackson

5. Chud

6. Pettine

7. Mangini

8. Terry Robiskie

9. Patty Schurmur

I'd put your (wo)mangini 4th and it does not matter how bad 5 thru 9 is. 

Saw this post on reddit about Browns interviewing the new OC candidate today:

"I imagine it’s a table in a larger meeting room with a projector showing film and concepts on the wall

There are 4 chairs at the table

Ryan of course is across from Wolf Highsmith and Dorsey

Ryan is going over concepts and how to utilize Njoku Duke Flash and CoCo, he is also introducing a new concept called running the ball more than 5 times a games

There is a fifth chair in the back corner, there sits with a pout on his face and folded arms Hue Jackson mumbling to himself that it’s his offense and he wants to call plays."

posted by Commander of Awesome

Saw this post on reddit about Browns interviewing the new OC candidate today:

 

"I imagine it’s a table in a larger meeting room with a projector showing film and concepts on the wall

There are 4 chairs at the table

Ryan of course is across from Wolf Highsmith and Dorsey

Ryan is going over concepts and how to utilize Njoku Duke Flash and CoCo, he is also introducing a new concept called running the ball more than 5 times a games

There is a fifth chair in the back corner, there sits with a pout on his face and folded arms Hue Jackson mumbling to himself that it’s his offense and he wants to call plays."

Found the thread, and this:

Hope he's ready for the challenge, Interim Head Coach is a big step above QB coach.

posted by Commander of Awesome

this, there was an article a while ago that basically said outside of Bill Bellichek, there wasn't a good example of a retread coaching ever being successful.

Pete Carroll, Tony Dungy, Mike Shanahan, Marv Levy, and I'm sure several others that I am forgetting had great head coaching careers when given a second or third chance.

posted by Commander of Awesome

 he is also introducing a new concept called running the ball more than 5 times a games

 

Which would be another reason not to draft a RB high. Why draft what you won't use?

posted by BR1986FB

Which would be another reason not to draft a RB high. Why draft what you won't use?

Especially in this draft. It’s loaded with RBs. 

Tabor gone, finally. Not fired, took a job with Chicago

posted by iclfan2

Tabor gone, finally. Not fired, took a job with Chicago

Long national nightmare is over.

https://football.realgm.com/analysis/3026/2018-NFL-Mock-Draft-Version-30

wouldn't qq

Interesting thoughts from Albert Breer. I just missed this interview yesterday.....

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2753513-kirk-cousins-would-reportedly-seriously-consider-playing-for-browns

posted by Commander of Awesome

https://football.realgm.com/analysis/3026/2018-NFL-Mock-Draft-Version-30

 

wouldn't qq

this is how I see the draft going. 

posted by BR1986FB

Interesting thoughts from Albert Breer. I just missed this interview yesterday.....

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2753513-kirk-cousins-would-reportedly-seriously-consider-playing-for-browns

I just go back to his interview last season where he said he waswas concerned about the possibility of be traded to the browns. Just trying to get a payday, he can GFH. DRAFT A ROOKIE.

posted by Commander of Awesome

I just go back to his interview last season where he said he waswas concerned about the possibility of be traded to the browns. Just trying to get a payday, he can GFH. DRAFT A ROOKIE.

No thanks. Don't want any of these QB's in this draft. Won't likely happen but I'd go after Cousins and trade down from #1 (not far) and get a haul.

BR you say this every year with the QB class. At least one of these QBs is going to be a stud. Take the one you think is best and surround him with talent and good coaching. This isn’t rocket science. 

posted by SportsAndLady

BR you say this every year with the QB class. At least one of these QBs is going to be a stud. Take the one you think is best and surround him with talent and good coaching. This isn’t rocket science. 

It seems that every year the Browns pick #1 (or #2 except for 2016 SMDH) is a weak elite QB class.  Maybe unfounded perception on my ecocentric mind.

posted by SportsAndLady

BR you say this every year with the QB class. At least one of these QBs is going to be a stud. Take the one you think is best and surround him with talent and good coaching. This isn’t rocket science. 

Yeah, it kind of is rocket science. You pick the wrong one and you're set back a few more years. I know the rookie pay scale is different now, so they wouldn't be tied to a Sam Bradford-like contract, but if you burn the #1 overall on a QB, you're likely tied to that guy for a few years to see if he's going to pan out.

You and I are on the same page about the QB, the Browns NEED one in the worst way but this (again) seems like the old "taking a QB just to take a QB" when every one of these top 3 guys have their issues.

If Fat Ass should win the Super Bowl and retire, the Browns would have a shot to land what would be the best QB in the division. 

posted by BR1986FB

 

You and I are on the same page about the QB, the Browns NEED one in the worst way but this (again) seems like the old "taking a QB just to take a QB" when every one of these top 3 guys have their issues.

 

Who was the last QB in a draft who didn't have non-trivial issues?

posted by queencitybuckeye

Who was the last QB in a draft who didn't have non-trivial issues?

Probably Luck and his career may be over.

If I were a Browns fan I think I'd prefer signing Cousins and trading down from #1 (the Jets would likely trade up from #6) and invest my two top 10 picks into other positions of need. 

How long would this 29 year old investment last and would they get the other pieces before he starts to deteriorate?

I'm sure the could get 7-9 with him, this roster and the picks forthcoming. 

posted by justincredible

If I were a Browns fan I think I'd prefer signing Cousins and trading down from #1 (the Jets would likely trade up from #6) and invest my two top 10 picks into other positions of need. 

Kind of my thoughts. Six higher level draft picks along with a ton of cap space ($112M projected currently, would obviously have to deduct what they'd pay Cousins) and they could improve, in a pretty weak division, quickly.

Yes, trade down and take DL and tight ends. It’s worked so brilliantly for us!

posted by SportsAndLady

Yes, trade down and take DL and tight ends. It’s worked so brilliantly for us!

Who said anything about DL & TE's? I think they are solid at DL and Devalve & Njoku are good enough at TE. They need DB's and at least one WR. Maybe a LT and a RB (later), use the rest on defense and maybe a developmental QB.

posted by SportsAndLady

Yes, trade down and take DL and tight ends. It’s worked so brilliantly for us!

Who said anything about DL and TE? 

posted by justincredible

Who said anything about DL and TE? 

Probably because they have done stuff like that before. The problem with his comment is that they'd already HAVE the QB, in Cousins, before the tradedown so they wouldn't be kicking the can, passing on a QB, like with previous regimes.