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kizer permanente

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Mon, Jul 18, 2022 9:21 AM
posted by Laley23

Nope. You’d just learn the 10 different putts at your spot.

You’d have to do that, but also go to different greens and use tees to help the mechanics especially on shorter putts. 


I think you’re underestimating how terrible I am at putting though  


Laley23

GOAT

Mon, Jul 18, 2022 10:01 AM
posted by kizer permanente

I think you’re underestimating how terrible I am at putting though  


Lol fair. My father-in law is about that same player as me. He is a 14 and I am an 11. When we play at his club, he usually beats me and it's because he hits 5-7 less putts -- he just knows the greens and speeds so well. When we play somewhere else, I beat him and our putting is usually even or I am slightly better.

kizer permanente

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 18, 2022 12:09 PM
posted by Laley23

Lol fair. My father-in law is about that same player as me. He is a 14 and I am an 11. When we play at his club, he usually beats me and it's because he hits 5-7 less putts -- he just knows the greens and speeds so well. When we play somewhere else, I beat him and our putting is usually even or I am slightly better.

I have a rare ability to make 10 footers easier than 2 footers  I’m not sure what it is… I push every single short putt. 


Laley23

GOAT

Mon, Jul 18, 2022 1:30 PM
posted by kizer permanente

I have a rare ability to make 10 footers easier than 2 footers  I’m not sure what it is… I push every single short putt. 


Hit them harder. Thats the only advice I can give. Its so mental, but having the proper speed shouldnt result in the ball dying in the cup or even drifting past 3-4 inches. It should end 1-2 feet past, pending distance away. Thats the only way for the putt to hold the line. Otherwise you are just hoping and the line to read will be obsolete because you didnt hit it with enough pass for it to matter. The "I cant believe it broke left at the end"...well, it didnt, you just didnt hit it hard enough so the slight little right to left is drastic cbecasue the putt is dying.

Ironman92

Administrator

Mon, Jul 18, 2022 3:03 PM
posted by kizer permanente

I have a rare ability to make 10 footers easier than 2 footers  I’m not sure what it is… I push every single short putt. 


Line up putter and minimize backswing and putt. Don’t think.


People watch me putt for the first time and are like WTF? I get behind it, read break…place club in position behind hall, square feet, get a quick right feel grip and putt as I give a final look at hole at putt….and it’s almost a rhythm like a free throw. Also the king of the lag and the 2 putt but I rarely ever 3 putt and I’m really good on those 3-6 foot putts that make it break your score. From the time I square my feet until putter strikes ball…I’d guess 2 seconds.


I watch old Nicklaus clips and many guys today and If I stand over a putt and keep staring at the hole…..I either hammer it by or leave crazy short…like in that stare time I lose all my feel


Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 18, 2022 4:15 PM

I'm reading Cam Smith is going to LIV.  Other names I see too are Bubba Watson and Rickie Fowler.   


This thing is not going away it seems.  Now Trump's getting involved.  Or at least more vocally as he was already involved by hosting events at his clubs.


How do you guys see this thing playing out?  

Laley23

GOAT

Mon, Jul 18, 2022 4:42 PM

I would predict the LIV Tour makes no money, and folds. Those who are financing it seem to have deep pockets, but even they won't want to continue with something not bringing in a return. I just don't know how long that is and I don't know what you do to those who jumped ship. 

Ironman92

Administrator

Mon, Jul 18, 2022 4:56 PM

When most of us watch a golf tournament most of the players we know are THE guys or were in that group a few years ago….LIV catching those guys on the downswing if their careers and we know them….but as is it can’t last. Huge financials right now but passing out $40,000,000-$90,000,000 too often and at some point the finances run out. Golf being worldly gives it a better chance than the off best professional football leagues that get created….but who is watching their events? I’ve been watching PGA on TV on Sundays since the early 80’s….many viewers are my age or older. We don’t even know how to watch NIL and currently don’t care to. Can NIL grab a worldwide crowd 🤷🏻‍♂️….but they seem more Phoenix Open/Happy Gilmore…it could fly but they have to reel in us old fogies because the Phoenix Open crazies type won’t stick with it.


How are they ever going to build anything like the Masters? The British Open was awesome…DJ was in the mix and part of it, didn’t feel any different.

Laley23

GOAT

Mon, Jul 18, 2022 5:17 PM

I will say that the LIV doing shotgun starts is a fantastic idea, I think would benefit the tour a ton to do this on a Thursday/Friday. Gives you a set time on air to have a full broadcast and focus on everyone making moves in real-time. 

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 18, 2022 6:42 PM

David Fehrety set to go to LIV as commentator. 

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Sat, Jul 30, 2022 3:44 PM

Bubba’s over to LIV.  $50 million - a lot more than he was going to make on tour at the rate he’s going.  Can’t blame him.  


Would love for one of these guys to have the balls to not say “it’s about growing the game”.  Be a man and say it was for the money.  Most people in the same position would do the same.  Quit this altruistic country club bs.

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Sun, Jul 31, 2022 2:49 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Bubba’s over to LIV.  $50 million - a lot more than he was going to make on tour at the rate he’s going.  Can’t blame him.  


Would love for one of these guys to have the balls to not say “it’s about growing the game”.  Be a man and say it was for the money.  Most people in the same position would do the same.  Quit this altruistic country club bs.

I think it’s part of the deal to not straight up say “yeah, I’m just trying to get paid.”

Ironman92

Administrator

Sun, Jul 31, 2022 9:52 AM

Saying tickets are very cheap, hardly anyone there and no tournament feel at all.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Sun, Jul 31, 2022 5:24 PM
posted by like_that
I think it’s part of the deal to not straight up say “yeah, I’m just trying to get paid.”

I know you’re right.  But Jesus, listening to the likes of Bubba or Patrick Reed or DJ suggesting they are doing this to grow the game.  Of course Bubba and his wife also prayed on it and apparently God wants him to take the $50 million.  


Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Sun, Jul 31, 2022 5:25 PM
posted by Ironman92

Saying tickets are very cheap, hardly anyone there and no tournament feel at all.

It sounds more like a Trump rally with some golf in the background  


QuakerOats

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 1, 2022 11:13 AM

Meanwhile, Tony Finau is on a roll. 

Ironman92

Administrator

Mon, Aug 1, 2022 12:44 PM
posted by QuakerOats

Meanwhile, Tony Finau is on a roll. 

Yep….was always close early in season now way over those humps. Winning easily.


Ironman92

Administrator

Tue, Aug 2, 2022 12:24 PM

So Tiger turned down $700,000,000 from the LIV Tour?


Are these monies offered something where you can never return to the PGA Tour as long as LIV is up and running?

Laley23

GOAT

Tue, Aug 2, 2022 1:33 PM
posted by Ironman92

So Tiger turned down $700,000,000 from the LIV Tour?


Are these monies offered something where you can never return to the PGA Tour as long as LIV is up and running?

The PGA Tour has banned anyone who leaves for LIV. PGA, Euro, Asian, and DP World are the 4 tours that work together and stagger the calendar to allow players back and forth on events. I know PGA and DP World has banned anyone going to LIV, not sure on the others. 

Ironman92

Administrator

Tue, Aug 2, 2022 3:00 PM
posted by Laley23

The PGA Tour has banned anyone who leaves for LIV. PGA, Euro, Asian, and DP World are the 4 tours that work together and stagger the calendar to allow players back and forth on events. I know PGA and DP World has banned anyone going to LIV, not sure on the others. 

But for $700,000,000 could Tiger leave, take the money in full and then return….maybe using a chunk of the money to make it worth the PGA’s while.


Just wondering seeing how those LIV money works…assuming you can’t say anything bad about LIV and have to stay for a # of years to get the money in full.


Laley23

GOAT

Tue, Aug 2, 2022 3:03 PM
posted by Ironman92

But for $700,000,000 could Tiger leave, take the money in full and then return….maybe using a chunk of the money to make it worth the PGA’s while.


Just wondering seeing how those LIV money works…assuming you can’t say anything bad about LIV and have to stay for a # of years to get the money in full.


I dont know. They arent dumb, so I am sure there are provisions. They have to play a certain amount etc...

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 2, 2022 5:52 PM

I still can’t understand the vitriol towards the LIV players.  Even if the thing is one giant exhibition, so what.  As far as “blood money”, that train left the station decades ago.  Our global financial system is so entertained that there is no way any one of us can’t say we’ve ever received money directly or indirectly from a shady player.  


I may have zero interest in watching it, but I don’t begrudge anyone for joining it.  My only beef is listening to them talk about their reason as being to “spread the game of golf”.  Give that a rest.

Laley23

GOAT

Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:15 PM

The vitriol is because it’s ruining the game for fans. Splitting the top stuff in 2 sucks for us as fans.

I would 100% take the money, so I don’t care about that. But I can also realize it’s not remotely the same as doing business with (NBA in China) or in a shady country. It’s being directly employed by them, by choice. 

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Wed, Aug 3, 2022 7:02 AM
posted by Laley23

The vitriol is because it’s ruining the game for fans. Splitting the top stuff in 2 sucks for us as fans.

I would 100% take the money, so I don’t care about that. But I can also realize it’s not remotely the same as doing business with (NBA in China) or in a shady country. It’s being directly employed by them, by choice. 

I get what you’re saying.  Having Trump involved with his friends Tucker and Marjorie Greene is probably a turn off to many too.  I guess I just don’t care.  Patrick Reed is spreading the message of golf to the poor children of the world, go for it. 😉


justincredible

Honorable Admin

Sun, Aug 7, 2022 6:36 PM

Impressive win by the 20 year-old J Kim today. Second youngest winner since like 1932. He started the tournament with an 8 and still won by 5 strokes.