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Thu, Jan 13, 2022 8:56 PM
posted by iclfan2
Somehow the current administration got no masks and no tests ordered. Weird. Also funny that hospitals would rather allow Covid positive nurses to work than unvaxxed ones.
Non-political question other than kinda proving you are one, how many tests have y’all had in two years? Some need it for work obviously. I’ve had one…
Tested once to travel to Canada. The only other reason I’d test is if I got very sick and doctors needed to know
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I am glad this turned into the COVID conspiracy thread...
I don't know if QO or CC touched on this, because I just scroll thru their conversations 95% of the time, but the one thing I will give them if they mentioned it are the vaccine passports.
A LOT of people (including this site) acted like that was tin foil hat shit. All of Europe essentially does it, and there are states/cities in the US that are doing it and I am not talking about private businesses requiring proof of vaccine. In this case, the tin foil hat crew turned out to be right and the only argument I see is to move the goal posts and say shit like "LoL ItS nOt LiKe U wiLL EvEr LeAvE OhIo, So Y dO YoU cAre?" You might a well just admit you were wrong about the passports at this point.
Speaking of vaccine passports and mandates, it's hilarious that people think these actually do anything at this point. The cases continue to skyrocket this winter, yet some people actually believe a piece of paper or a QR code to enter a resturaunt is helping.
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posted by like_that
I am glad this turned into the COVID conspiracy thread...
I don't know if QO or CC touched on this, because I just scroll thru their conversations 95% of the time, but the one thing I will give them if they mentioned it are the vaccine passports.
A LOT of people (including this site) acted like that was tin foil hat shit. All of Europe essentially does it, and there are states/cities in the US that are doing it and I am not talking about private businesses requiring proof of vaccine. In this case, the tin foil hat crew turned out to be right and the only argument I see is to move the goal posts and say shit like "LoL ItS nOt LiKe U wiLL EvEr LeAvE OhIo, So Y dO YoU cAre?" You might a well just admit you were wrong about the passports at this point.
Speaking of vaccine passports and mandates, it's hilarious that people think these actually do anything at this point. The cases continue to skyrocket this winter, yet some people actually believe a piece of paper or a QR code to enter a resturaunt is helping.
I don't remember anyone arguing with those two about vaccine passports. That idea isn't anything new or "about to happen". If you travel internationally, you need one. If you want to go out to dinner in NYC, you need one. There are plenty of examples. I'm not arguing that they are doing much to help, but they aren't anything that hasn't been around for a long time now.
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posted by QuakerOats
Most of your "conspiracies" are outcomes that you twist to seem more nefarious. Conspiracy theorist seems like a depressing way to look at the world.
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posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie
I don't remember anyone arguing with those two about vaccine passports. That idea isn't anything new or "about to happen". If you travel internationally, you need one. If you want to go out to dinner in NYC, you need one. There are plenty of examples. I'm not arguing that they are doing much to help, but they aren't anything that hasn't been around for a long time now.
I am talking about before vaccines were available. People brushed the vaccine passports aside as tin foil hat shit.
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How are there still people wearing masks in their cars? Clowns. Most I see are alone, too.
Lunch meetings are funny too. Some will wear a mask for the first hour, and then for the next half hour be maskless and eating/ talking. Even after it’s been widely reported that cloth masks offer little protection.
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My wife’s work is now requiring KN95 masks. Meanwhile I work in a drs office and no one wears a mask but we do put a sign out asking visitors to wear a mask in common areas which they do not do.
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My wife’s work is now requiring KN95 masks.
Is she a teacher? Are they paying for the masks? F that.
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Plus, IMO, the N95 masks are uncomfortable as fuck. I hate wearing them. I’ll still sometimes see someone working out wearing one. Idk how they do it.
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posted by friendfromlowry
Plus, IMO, the N95 masks are uncomfortable as fuck. I hate wearing them. I’ll still sometimes see someone working out wearing one. Idk how they do it.
I was a the gym yesterday and saw a couple of these. One was a fairly old dude (80+), so I give him a pass - Covid is probably scary to him plus he's at a gym lifting weights at his age, so good on him for that. But the others I saw were all younger than 40 or so and were working out hard. They probably took in far more germs from gripping dirty barbells than breathing the air. Seems like a horrible way to exercise.
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Masks for liberals = maga hats for trumpers.
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Tue, Jan 18, 2022 8:34 AM
here's where i go with this debate now that i've got it and am trying to do treatments to get over it.
1. we shouldn't be politicizing any treatment. I can't get monoclonal antibodies (they are out of the one that treats omicron and that's what i've got according to all the Dr.'s that i've asked) none of the hospitals or pharmacies have paxlovid, so i can't get that. Ivermectin is available but no one will give it to me because joe rogan isn't a doctor so i have been told. HOWEVER my sister in law takes ivermectin for some arthritis condition she has, so i have started taking hers as of yesterday and it may be placebo, but my breathing and cough are quite a bit better 24hours after taking it. My point is if there is nothing else available why can't you give me something that might not work, but definitely won't make me worse?
2. Testing and treatment need to really ramp up if we ever want to be truly back to normal. like i said i couldn't be treated right now normally, unless i was admitted to a hospital. but it took me 2 days to get tested once i showed symptoms and 3 days to get my results back once i got swabbed. by the time i knew i had it (for sure, i was acting like i did as soon as the 104 fever started) my symptoms (aside from the cough and shortness of breath) were GONE. someone else might not have been so lucky. whatever bottleneck is in place to slow that process down needs to be fixed ASAP.
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posted by j_crazy
here's where i go with this debate now that i've got it and am trying to do treatments to get over it.
1. we shouldn't be politicizing any treatment. I can't get monoclonal antibodies (they are out of the one that treats omicron and that's what i've got according to all the Dr.'s that i've asked) none of the hospitals or pharmacies have paxlovid, so i can't get that. Ivermectin is available but no one will give it to me because joe rogan isn't a doctor so i have been told. HOWEVER my sister in law takes ivermectin for some arthritis condition she has, so i have started taking hers as of yesterday and it may be placebo, but my breathing and cough are quite a bit better 24hours after taking it. My point is if there is nothing else available why can't you give me something that might not work, but definitely won't make me worse?
2. Testing and treatment need to really ramp up if we ever want to be truly back to normal. like i said i couldn't be treated right now normally, unless i was admitted to a hospital. but it took me 2 days to get tested once i showed symptoms and 3 days to get my results back once i got swabbed. by the time i knew i had it (for sure, i was acting like i did as soon as the 104 fever started) my symptoms (aside from the cough and shortness of breath) were GONE. someone else might not have been so lucky. whatever bottleneck is in place to slow that process down needs to be fixed ASAP.
Trump created three fantastic vaccines and Biden ended the pandemic. What more are you expecting?
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posted by j_crazy
here's where i go with this debate now that i've got it and am trying to do treatments to get over it.
1. we shouldn't be politicizing any treatment. I can't get monoclonal antibodies (they are out of the one that treats omicron and that's what i've got according to all the Dr.'s that i've asked) none of the hospitals or pharmacies have paxlovid, so i can't get that. Ivermectin is available but no one will give it to me because joe rogan isn't a doctor so i have been told. HOWEVER my sister in law takes ivermectin for some arthritis condition she has, so i have started taking hers as of yesterday and it may be placebo, but my breathing and cough are quite a bit better 24hours after taking it. My point is if there is nothing else available why can't you give me something that might not work, but definitely won't make me worse?
2. Testing and treatment need to really ramp up if we ever want to be truly back to normal. like i said i couldn't be treated right now normally, unless i was admitted to a hospital. but it took me 2 days to get tested once i showed symptoms and 3 days to get my results back once i got swabbed. by the time i knew i had it (for sure, i was acting like i did as soon as the 104 fever started) my symptoms (aside from the cough and shortness of breath) were GONE. someone else might not have been so lucky. whatever bottleneck is in place to slow that process down needs to be fixed ASAP.
To point #2, it would help if so many people stopped getting unnecessary tests.
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Tue, Jan 18, 2022 12:14 PM
posted by like_that
To point #2, it would help if so many people stopped getting unnecessary tests.
to that point, i'm not allowed to go back to the office until i show a negative PCR. same thing with my kids going back to school. so there is 3 test that aren't necessarily "NEEDED" but are necessary.