posted by geeblock

The police are the ones specifically referenced in the articles. I should be more clear on here when I talk. When I said police brutality I should have clarified specifically the killing of unarmed blacks at a disproportionate rates. George Zimmerman travels the country getting. Skittles bags signed so please miss me with I only use my friends as the

Problem is that statistics don’t back this up. As shown above whites are actually more likely to get shot by police  

I think it was Ron Paul who was pushing the FairTax a while back.  I can see the Dems embracing that at some point, with a new name of course.  Because that's the path to a VAT.  They can't pay for all this by simply increasing taxes alone, they'll have to widen the tax base (and increase taxes).

It's going to be brutal, and we'll start seeing them chip away at it soon.  The "Wall Street tax" - which, by the way, I think FairTax needed to tax financial transactions as well - has been talked about over in Europe, too, and I think it gains steam because it both sounds like soaking the rich, while subtly expanding into the middle class (but only those with enough savings to buy stocks).  And climate change excise taxes on energy and property because, again, it's a form of consumption and wealth tax that will hit people with larger homes.

Huge tax increases on the middle class seem inevitable.  Only question is how long before it happens.  I'll peg it not as the next Dem POTUS, but the next one after that (so maybe 15-20 years).

posted by jmog

posted by geeblock

The police are the ones specifically referenced in the articles. I should be more clear on here when I talk. When I said police brutality I should have clarified specifically the killing of unarmed blacks at a disproportionate rates. George Zimmerman travels the country getting. Skittles bags signed so please miss me with I only use my friends as the

Problem is that statistics don’t back this up. As shown above whites are actually more likely to get shot by police  

 

Not by percentage of the population based on fbi stats

posted by geeblock

Bet this just hope it holds lol not sure if it will show up 

It was a horse called trumps wall at scioto downs 

Whatever you posted didn't show up.

posted by jmog

Problem is that statistics don’t back this up. As shown above whites are actually more likely to get shot by police 

That's another inconvenient truth.

The amount of police killed in the line of duty is about the same as the number of unarmed civilians killed each year.  That data is not precise, but we are talking 100, at most, blacks wrongly killed by police each year.   While that's tragic, it's a number that is literally not even significant enough to be considered "marginal".  It is 100% the wrong tree to be barking up.

posted by O-Trap

Whatever you posted didn't show up.

Ive never figured out how to post a pic from my phone. Only pics that have been online work to me 

posted by CenterBHSFan

Not sure if this was brought up but... Beto's war tax. Fuck this guy, he's signalling exactly what he wants to do.

I had to google it and LOL.  So, in an effort to rein in our war happy government (already at a yearly $700B budget), he wants to punish families without service members by fining them.  

posted by like_that

I had to google it and LOL.  So, in an effort to rein in our war happy government (already at a yearly $700B budget), he wants to punish families without service members by fining them.  

It’s a legit clown show. I refuse to watch the debates but it has to be great theater. 

posted by like_that

I had to google it and LOL.  So, in an effort to rein in our war happy government (already at a yearly $700B budget), he wants to punish families without service members by fining them.  

What the flying fuck?
So, he's going to punish families for something Congress and the POTUS do?

What's the professed justification?

posted by O-Trap

What the flying fuck?
So, he's going to punish families for something Congress and the POTUS do?

What's the professed justification?

The money will go to a veteran's "trust fund."  Here is a better idea, how about not go to war? 

posted by geeblock

Not by percentage of the population based on fbi stats

 

Read again what I have typed. When you adjust for the fact that blacks commit more crimes and therefore are arrested more, white men are more likely or just as likely to get shot. 

I was very clear. 

posted by jmog

Read again what I have typed. When you adjust for the fact that blacks commit more crimes and therefore are arrested more, white men are more likely or just as likely to get shot. 

 

I was very clear. 

Do blacks actually commit more crimes or do they just get arrested/prosecuted more often? 

White dude rapes a girl and gets community service and they are worried about ruining his life. Black child takes a doll and police draw weapons on their parents. I can understand why someone might feel like the deck is stacked against them. 

posted by FatHobbit

Do blacks actually commit more crimes or do they just get arrested/prosecuted more often? 

White dude rapes a girl and gets community service and they are worried about ruining his life. Black child takes a doll and police draw weapons on their parents. I can understand why someone might feel like the deck is stacked against them. 

It’s not that hard to google FBI crime rates. They do commit more crimes. This is not really debatable. 

Now, the reason why they do can be discussed in different thread I guess. I did read once (can’t remember where) that in the same socioeconomic stratifications blacks commit crimes at the same rate as whites, but I maybe dreaming that. So it could be due to socioeconomic reasons and not anything inherent. But the fact that blacks commit more crime is not really a debatable statistic, it’s factual information that is easily found anywhere. 

posted by like_that

The money will go to a veteran's "trust fund."  Here is a better idea, how about not go to war? 

Fucking aye.

Basically saying, "We in Washington are going to declare war.  If your family isn't contributing manpower to the war effort, we're going to hold you financially responsible for the needs of veterans coming home."

How about you don't send them to war, Deputy Dipshit?

posted by CenterBHSFan

Not sure if this was brought up but... Beto's war tax. Fuck this guy, he's signalling exactly what he wants to do.

Hence my statement about a war tax. You can see it in his own words here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI5lIg0oXK8

posted by jmog

It’s not that hard to google FBI crime rates. They do commit more crimes. This is not really debatable. 

Getting caught and going to jail is not the same as committing a crime. 

Sooo everyone is now agreeing their is a border crisis?

posted by FatHobbit

Getting caught and going to jail is not the same as committing a crime. 

The numbers are pretty overwhelming though.  If they were close, I could see the "well maybe it's because cops take it easy on white people and not blacks" argument.  The numbers aren't even close, and it would have to be a mass scale of cops around the entire country going out of their way to make all blacks miserable vs taking care of whites with kid's gloves. 

posted by jmog

Read again what I have typed. When you adjust for the fact that blacks commit more crimes and therefore are arrested more, white men are more likely or just as likely to get shot. 

 

I was very clear. 

Not when u account for the over policing in poor neighborhoods. There are just as many drugs in affluent neighborhoods 

posted by jmog

It’s not that hard to google FBI crime rates. They do commit more crimes. This is not really debatable. 

 

Now, the reason why they do can be discussed in different thread I guess. I did read once (can’t remember where) that in the same socioeconomic stratifications blacks commit crimes at the same rate as whites, but I maybe dreaming that. So it could be due to socioeconomic reasons and not anything inherent. But the fact that blacks commit more crime is not really a debatable statistic, it’s factual information that is easily found anywhere. 

Again also over policing in poor ne

posted by geeblock

Not when u account for the over policing in poor neighborhoods. There are just as many drugs in affluent neighborhoods 

Is there a demonstration of this?

It probably wouldn't completely surprise me.  The money is there to account for the lower population density, but if we're all going to agree to it as fact, we should have evidence to that end.

I'm not sure it would be an easy thing to analyze, though, since illegal drug use is, as the description would suggest, the kind of thing that stays pretty quiet.

It's also worth noting that there are poorer neighborhoods where soft drugs are blatantly ignored by police, as well.  I don't know how frequently it happens, as I only have anecdotes, but my neighbors have been toking up on their front porches for years, and any police in the area never hassle them for it (even when the police stop in front of or near the house).

posted by geeblock

Not when u account for the over policing in poor neighborhoods. There are just as many drugs in affluent neighborhoods 

What data do you have to support this (note: I am not asking for an op-ed, which seems to be your go to)?  In the poorer sections of inner cities there tends to be crime associated with drugs (shootings, stabbings, assaults, etc).  This isn't happening in affluent neighborhoods.  What do you think is going to attract cops more?  

Side note: This is why I say we should legalize all drugs.  It would reduce crime, save money, allocate resources properly, and there would be no reason to bitch about disproportionate arrests.