I could keep going but you get the picture. You literally have no idea what goes on in the black community or how they feel about gun violence. You can be scared of gangs and the police. You can’t just turn in the gang banger so easily when you have to live next door to them and can’t afford to move. 

https://www.facebook.com/ralph.carter.90/videos/4132969836755482/?

Cool posts Gblock. I’m glad some people care. Fact remains they’re a million times more likely to be killed by their community than the cops. Unarmed blacks killed by police are slim, and even then some are warranted. Instead of fear mongering maybe they should go with reality.

posted by geeblock

I could keep going but you get the picture. You literally have no idea what goes on in the black community or how they feel about gun violence. You can be scared of gangs and the police. You can’t just turn in the gang banger so easily when you have to live next door to them and can’t afford to move. 

Like you said, no one in the community is willing to stop the real problem.

posted by geeblock

I could keep going but you get the picture. You literally have no idea what goes on in the black community or how they feel about gun violence. You can be scared of gangs and the police. You can’t just turn in the gang banger so easily when you have to live next door to them and can’t afford to move. 

I don't question that there are people who care - as evidenced by your posts. It doesn't begin to touch the collective outrage over someone being killed by a cop - it's not even close. God bless those that do work to make change. But it is sad that George Floyd has been memorialized by statues, parks and streets. Yet no one can name the countless innocent victims of street violence added to the rolls every week. 

I know you say that one can be outraged at the cops and at gangstas at the same time. But that symbolically equates two things that have almost nothing in common. 

posted by geeblock

You think black people are scared of the police because of the media? Or the left? Lol you really don’t know any black people and definitely haven’t been in the hood. Black people have been scared since the inception of police, there just wasn’t video or anyone who would listen or cared. 

The facts don't support it.  I'm well aware that black people are afraid of the police.  Doesn't make it any less surprising or irrational.  I was talking to a friend about how many times I've sped past police doing 80 and nothing....he said "I have some theories on that".  And I said "you really think the cop could tell if I was black or white thru tinted windows doing 80?".  That ended that discussion.

And, yes, the media share much of the blame.  It's their duty to dispel false narratives, but they are pretty selective in that regard.

posted by geeblock

I could keep going but you get the picture. You literally have no idea what goes on in the black community or how they feel about gun violence. You can be scared of gangs and the police. You can’t just turn in the gang banger so easily when you have to live next door to them and can’t afford to move. 

I understand perfectly well what goes on in the black community, because it's all over the news.

And who said anything about "turning in" a gang banger?  Did the police stop taking anonymous tips and I just had "no idea" that changed?

posted by gut

I understand perfectly well what goes on in the black community, because it's all over the news.

And who said anything about "turning in" a gang banger?  Did the police stop taking anonymous tips and I just had "no idea" that changed?

When you get a lawyer the cops have to provide the probable cause when trial comes which includes your name on the indictment so yes eventually they find out 

posted by gut

I understand perfectly well what goes on in the black community, because it's all over the news.

And who said anything about "turning in" a gang banger?  Did the police stop taking anonymous tips and I just had "no idea" that changed?

So now we believe the “media” lol you realize they only publish bad nea

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I don't question that there are people who care - as evidenced by your posts. It doesn't begin to touch the collective outrage over someone being killed by a cop - it's not even close. God bless those that do work to make change. But it is sad that George Floyd has been memorialized by statues, parks and streets. Yet no one can name the countless innocent victims of street violence added to the rolls every week. 

I know you say that one can be outraged at the cops and at gangstas at the same time. But that symbolically equates two things that have almost nothing in common. 

I agree not sure why you continue to bring up gun violence in black communities as some way to deflect the needed police reform. Two completely different issues . Also cops and criminals are two different groups. One is paid to serve and protect and one is a criminal so. Were Italians able to stop mob violence in New York or Chicago? Or did  they just glamorize it in movies. 

posted by geeblock

I agree not sure why you continue to bring up gun violence in black communities as some way to deflect the needed police reform. Two completely different issues . Also cops and criminals are two different groups. One is paid to serve and protect and one is a criminal so. We’re Italians able to stop mob violence in New York or Chicago? Or did  they just glamorize it in movies. 

I bring it up because it's the giant elephant in the room when the community expresses it's collective outrage at someone killed by a cop.  The protests and riots have been under the banner of "Black Lives Matter", not "Black Lives Ended by Police Matter".  That suggests that the community cares about each and every life taken too soon. Yet there is nowhere near the outrage, uniting, rioting or shouting done on the same widespread level for the innocent black lives squashed out every single day by inner-city violence.  So if the outrage came under the banner of "Black Lives Matter" (meaning all black lives), I don't see how it is a different issue.  Why then do some lives seem to matter more than others?

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I bring it up because it's the giant elephant in the room when the community expresses it's collective outrage at someone killed by a cop.  The protests and riots have been under the banner of "Black Lives Matter", not "Black Lives Ended by Police Matter".  That suggests that the community cares about each and every life taken too soon. Yet there is nowhere near the outrage, uniting, rioting or shouting done on the same widespread level for the innocent black lives squashed out every single day by inner-city violence.  So if the outrage came under the banner of "Black Lives Matter" (meaning all black lives), I don't see how it is a different issue.  Why then do some lives seem to matter more than others?

No one thinks that but you I guess is the issue. You have your own ideas and narratives about what things mean and decide what you think is most important and what isn’t important based upon what you see on the news and Facebook. It’s all a matter of perspective. Do you have some number of the levels of murder that would allow you to consider police reform? 

posted by geeblock

When you get a lawyer the cops have to provide the probable cause when trial comes which includes your name on the indictment so yes eventually they find out 

I actually agree with this. And it might be because of tv, but why would anyone want to work with the legal system knowing as soon as their name is released their whole family is at risk. I don’t know how you change that part, but it is definitely a huge part of why no one ever sees anything. 

posted by geeblock

No one thinks that but you I guess is the issue. You have your own ideas and narratives about what things mean and decide what you think is most important and what isn’t important based upon what you see on the news and Facebook. It’s all a matter of perspective. Do you have some number of the levels of murder that would allow you to consider police reform? 

I said nothing about police reform not being needed. What is hard for me to understand is why inner city violence does not engender the outrage a person killed by a cop does.  I understand what you say about a cop being an instrument of law, etc. But 40 years of ravenous violent crime has never resulted in the collective outrage that these police shootings do. That makes it very difficult to take the "Black Lives Matter" message seriously - when you can say to the tens of thousands of marchers last summer in downtown Chicago (for example), "Black Lives Matter?  Where were the lot of you just last weekend when 15 of them were ended by gun violence only a few miles from here?". 

I don't have Facebook. 

I'll agree to disagree Geeblock. But I doubt my opinion is unusual or rare. It's a huge perception issue the BLM community has done nothing to change. 

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I said nothing about police reform not being needed. What is hard for me to understand is why inner city violence does not engender the outrage a person killed by a cop does.  I understand what you say about a cop being an instrument of law, etc. But 40 years of ravenous violent crime has never resulted in the collective outrage that these police shootings do. That makes it very difficult to take the "Black Lives Matter" message seriously - when you can say to the tens of thousands of marchers last summer in downtown Chicago (for example), "Black Lives Matter?  Where were the lot of you just last weekend when 15 of them were ended by gun violence only a few miles from here?". 

I don't have Facebook. 

Why should it? You still haven’t explained this? 

posted by geeblock

Why should it? You still haven’t explained this? 

I've explained as well as I can. Sorry if we miss. 

In my thinking, an Anonymous Tipster doesn't leave a name.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I'll agree to disagree Geeblock. But I doubt my opinion is unusual or rare. It's a huge perception issue the BLM community has done nothing to change. 

Because people have finally woken up to see it’s just more Marxist bullshit. BLM, teachers unions, “scientists”, different subjects pushing the same beliefs.

https://notthebee.com/article/over-5000-teachers-have-signed-a-pledge-that-they-will-teach-crt-where-banned-by-law

But Ptown said we don't have to worry about CRT. 

posted by Gardens35

In my thinking, an Anonymous Tipster doesn't leave a name.

The great thing about our country is u get to face ur accuser 

posted by superman

https://notthebee.com/article/over-5000-teachers-have-signed-a-pledge-that-they-will-teach-crt-where-banned-by-law

But Ptown said we don't have to worry about CRT. 

Lol what is the worst that could happen .. super funny 

posted by geeblock

The great thing about our country is u get to face ur accuser 

And when a tip is given anonymously, the state is the accuser.