posted by geeblock

. There actually hasn’t been massive legislation passed. 

You dont remember the 2017 Jobs act and massive tax cuts?

How about the rework on the failed NAFTA bill that took all our jobs overseas?

Energy legislation that has created millions of jobs?

Either you dont know what is actually happening out here or you are so partisan that you cant see it.

posted by Spock

You dont remember the 2017 Jobs act and massive tax cuts?

How about the rework on the failed NAFTA bill that took all our jobs overseas?

Energy legislation that has created millions of jobs?

Either you dont know what is actually happening out here or you are so partisan that you cant see it.

So like not massive and not needing all caps 

posted by jmog

Given AOC, Omar, Tlaib, Pelosi, etc, I really don't think the dems should talk much about crazy republicans going to the HoR/Senate.

Fair. Crazy on both sides. But, the recent ones this week are on par or even worse as the Ds. I mean the R party is now the party of QA and the Florida lady is pretty hard core anti-Muslim. 

posted by Spock

You sure about that?  Under Biden and the dems it surely wont.  The dems will kill the energy sector, source back out all the manufacturing jobs that Obama said werent coming back (but did under Trump) and regulate the hell out of small businesses that will kill local jobs for peple.

I mean Trump, according to most polls, has failed at this current COVID crisis and really turning the economy around is all about first controlling the virus. 

In the end though, I think it will just come down to people just want something different than the last four years of this guy in the White House. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

I mean Trump, according to most polls, has failed at this current COVID crisis and really turning the economy around is all about first controlling the virus. 

In the end though, I think it will just come down to people just want something different than the last four years of this guy in the White House. 

Something different is failed policies of the past and socialist green new deal shit. 

posted by Spock

Something different is failed policies of the past and socialist green new deal shit. 

If Biden is elected and the Rs hold the Senate, we will go back to the 2013-2016 budget debates and no large scale D issue will pass. Republicans will find their fiscal spines which they have not had in 4 years. 

It would be D incremental change and a return to a normal Presidency instead of the crazy shit we see every day. If I had to guess, most people are tired of it. They tried it and it has blown up. 

I mean personally, I just miss the old days of budget debates and traditional red v. blue issues. 

posted by geeblock

Fun fact: they matter even less to the GOP

I won’t even argue African Americans should for Republicans, because I can’t do it myself. Is there anything in that video you can dispute? I am not sure why the Dems have a locked in 90%+ AA vote every election. They haven’t done shit for them. Literally, every problem anyone brings up for the AA community, you can trace it back to democratic politicians running their community.  Everyone wants to bring up systemic racism, but they don’t want to mention who has been running that system for over half a century.

Covid and these dumbass protests have really brought to light who runs these shitty cities and how awful they are. Yet somehow the right/ the whites are to blame. It’s the victimhood mentality that is never going to go away. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

If Biden is elected and the Rs hold the Senate, we will go back to the 2013-2016 budget debates and no large scale D issue will pass. Republicans will find their fiscal spines which they have not had in 4 years. 

It would be D incremental change and a return to a normal Presidency instead of the crazy shit we see every day. If I had to guess, most people are tired of it. They tried it and it has blown up. 

I mean personally, I just miss the old days of budget debates and traditional red v. blue issues. 

If Biden wins, DC will be a complete power grab shit show  Lobbyist run wild.  Not sure what you mean by "normal presidency"  Most people in middle America like the new normal where are president is "America first" and globally is getting stuff done for us and not China and Mexico.

What you are wanting is the power back in DC........

posted by Spock

If Biden wins, DC will be a complete power grab shit show  Lobbyist run wild.  Not sure what you mean by "normal presidency"  Most people in middle America like the new normal where are president is "America first" and globally is getting stuff done for us and not China and Mexico.

What you are wanting is the power back in DC........

Maybe, but again, if the Republicans hold the Senate, nothing big will take place. It will be a repeat of the later Obama years of little Congressional action and more Executive Action, which Rs will remember is bad once again. 

Also, msot of America does not think that, otherwise Trump's approval rating would be above 45%. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Maybe, but again, if the Republicans hold the Senate, nothing big will take place. It will be a repeat of the later Obama years of little Congressional action and more Executive Action, which Rs will remember is bad once again. 

Also, msot of America does not think that, otherwise Trump's approval rating would be above 45%. 

Trumps rating last week were higher then Obamas 44% at the end of his first term.  So not sure you get it both ways.

posted by Spock

Trumps rating last week were higher then Obamas 44% at the end of his first term.  So not sure you get it both ways.

Nope, still at 42% by the gold standard 

https://news.gallup.com/poll/203207/trump-job-approval-weekly.aspx

Wages rose above 3% for the first time in over a decade. 

If you want any more facts they are readily available, unless CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and NBC are your sources.

Good luck.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Nope, still at 42% by the gold standard 

https://news.gallup.com/poll/203207/trump-job-approval-weekly.aspx

False.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/current_events/politics/prez_track_aug21

Now that Gallup has quit the field, Rasmussen Reports is the only nationally recognized public opinion firm that still tracks President Trump's job approval ratings on a daily basis. 

8/21/20 – Trump 51%

8/21/12 – obama 49%

Good luck.

posted by QuakerOats

False.

 

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/current_events/politics/prez_track_aug21

 

 

Now that Gallup has quit the field, Rasmussen Reports is the only nationally recognized public opinion firm that still tracks President Trump's job approval ratings on a daily basis. 

 

 

8/21/20 – Trump 51%

8/21/12 – obama 49%

 

 

 

Good luck.

LOL. Ok. The Gallup poll is still the historic gold standard and is weekly. Rasmussen has a history of being very right leaning in their polling average. 

On 538, which aggregates all the polls, has the average as 42%, so the Rasmussen one is an outlier, not the norm. 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?cid=rrpromo

As you say, get in the game. 

posted by QuakerOats

Wages rose above 3% for the first time in over a decade. 

If you want any more facts they are readily available, unless CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and NBC are your sources.

Good luck.

Is that before or during the pandemic? Because, the only thing that matters now is getting the virus under control and reopening the ecomomy. 

The virus is going to do its thing; you can wear masks and social distance all you want, and still get it.  What we should not have done, is try to purposefully destroy our economy, because the strength of our economy, in large measure, represents our ability to properly deal with health issues in the future.  For now, the prescription has been worse than the disease.

posted by QuakerOats

The virus is going to do its thing; you can wear masks and social distance all you want, and still get it.  What we should not have done, is try to purposefully destroy our economy, because the strength of our economy, in large measure, represents our ability to properly deal with health issues in the future.  For now, the prescription has been worse than the disease.

There are literally 50k+ gatherings in china right now because they shut down their economy for a few months and got rid of the virus. Wuhan hasn’t had a positive Covid test in 3 months. 

PERHAPS, a couple shut down months is better than 6 (and counting) semi-shut down months...but don’t tell our federal and state governments that.

Take realclearpolitics.com polls for that last 2 weeks, throw out the high and low and he is at 44.?%

Still higher by a few tenths then Obama.

posted by SportsAndLady

There are literally 50k+ gatherings in china right now because they shut down their economy for a few months and got rid of the virus. Wuhan hasn’t had a positive Covid test in 3 months. 

PERHAPS, a couple shut down months is better than 6 (and counting) semi-shut down months...but don’t tell our federal and state governments that.

LOL

And then we have the annual blackouts in the radically liberal state of California.  One party rule for decades has created the most screwed up energy situation imaginable.  It is like a third world country.  Their answer:  rationing energy.  baaahhaaaa

And this is exactly what the Marxists want to bring to the entire nation.  What a bunch of fools.

posted by QuakerOats

And then we have the annual blackouts in the radically liberal state of California.  One party rule for decades has created the most screwed up energy situation imaginable.  It is like a third world country.  Their answer:  rationing energy.  baaahhaaaa

And this is exactly what the Marxists want to bring to the entire nation.  What a bunch of fools.

Would you rather live in Mississippi or Alabama? Lol republican states are also trash and last in every cate

posted by geeblock

Would you rather live in Mississippi or Alabama? Lol republican states are also trash and last in every cate

The Problem is one party rule. We need term limits and we need people who will vote for the best candidate not the D or R next to their name.

posted by sportchampps

The Problem is one party rule. We need term limits and we need people who will vote for the best candidate not the D or R next to their name.

Or perhaps stop fooling yourself (generally speaking), that the Government is going to fix anything for you.  Biden will win and nothing will change for the disenfranchised people they are pretending to “fight” for, book it.

And before someone comes in with “wHat aBoUt TeH RePuBLiCAns?”  the same applies to them.

posted by geeblock

Would you rather live in Mississippi or Alabama? Lol republican states are also trash and last in every cate

Hey, I live in Alabama. I'm quite happy here and it is a nice place.