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Spock

Senior Member

Thu, Feb 27, 2020 4:17 PM
posted by O-Trap

Eh, those who lean that way do seem to use the "snowflake" way too liberally, this case being a prime example.

Does the mention of the MAGA hat bother you?

His virtue signaling (along with yours) bother me.  No need to wear the hat and no need to mention that tidbit when describing someones asshatery (no pun intended)

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Thu, Feb 27, 2020 4:28 PM
posted by Spock

His virtue signaling (along with yours) bother me.  No need to wear the hat and no need to mention that tidbit when describing someones asshatery (no pun intended)

Virtue signaling - haha.   Sorry you're upset about his hat or my mentioning it. 

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Thu, Feb 27, 2020 4:39 PM
posted by Spock

His virtue signaling (along with yours) bother me.  No need to wear the hat and no need to mention that tidbit when describing someones asshatery (no pun intended)

Erm ... do you know what virtue signaling is?  Because what he and I said wasn't it.

Again, the hat is like a bumper sticker.  The actions of a driver reflect on those with the views communicated through the bumper sticker, for better or worse.

Same applies to people wearing a hat, driving a particular kind of car, wearing certain clothes, etc.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Thu, Feb 27, 2020 4:44 PM

 

 

 

“The Commerce Department said on Wednesday new home sales jumped 7.9% to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 764,000 units last month, the highest level since July 2007.”

 

 

 

Take care.

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Thu, Feb 27, 2020 4:50 PM
posted by QuakerOats

 

 

 

“The Commerce Department said on Wednesday new home sales jumped 7.9% to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 764,000 units last month, the highest level since July 2007.”

 

 

 

Take care.

For the record, we know what happened shortly after July 2007.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Thu, Feb 27, 2020 5:08 PM
posted by O-Trap

For the record, we know what happened shortly after July 2007.

Yes, that's around the time Quaker' Obama Derangement Syndrome to hold of him. 🙂

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Thu, Feb 27, 2020 5:20 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Yes, that's around the time Quaker' Obama Derangement Syndrome to hold of him. 🙂

I was thinking more along the lines of the housing market collapse that reverberated out to the entire global economy, but yeah, that too.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Thu, Feb 27, 2020 5:51 PM
posted by O-Trap

I was thinking more along the lines of the housing market collapse that reverberated out to the entire global economy, but yeah, that too.

Yes, that too. Can't believe that was 12-13 years ago. 

Automatik

Senior Member

Thu, Feb 27, 2020 5:53 PM

Let me tell ya, was a FANTASTIC year to finish college.

Spock

Senior Member

Thu, Feb 27, 2020 6:11 PM
posted by O-Trap

Erm ... do you know what virtue signaling is?  Because what he and I said wasn't it.

Again, the hat is like a bumper sticker.  The actions of a driver reflect on those with the views communicated through the bumper sticker, for better or worse.

Same applies to people wearing a hat, driving a particular kind of car, wearing certain clothes, etc.

Read a little so you understand that the act of or expression of something in many forms can be characterized as "virtue signaling".

 

Virtue signaling rose in popularity as a pejorative term, denouncing empty acts of public commitment to unexceptional good causes. The term is characterized by the signaler's desire to show support for a cause without actually acting to support the cause in question. An important characteristic of virtue signaling is that there is little to no cost associated with the act; simple public vocalization in support of a cause has no cost to the signaler. In Bartholomew's original article, he describes virtue signaling as a public act with very little associated cost that is intended to inform others of one's socially acceptable alignment on an issue.[3] Geoffrey Miller describes virtue signaling as an innate act, and something that all humans do and cannot avoid.[12]

BRF

Senior Member

Thu, Feb 27, 2020 6:15 PM
posted by Spock

His virtue signaling (along with yours) bother me.  No need to wear the hat and no need to mention that tidbit when describing someones asshatery (no pun intended)

asshattery

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Thu, Feb 27, 2020 7:22 PM
posted by Spock

Read a little so you understand that the act of or expression of something in many forms can be characterized as "virtue signaling".

 

Virtue signaling rose in popularity as a pejorative term, denouncing empty acts of public commitment to unexceptional good causes. The term is characterized by the signaler's desire to show support for a cause without actually acting to support the cause in question. An important characteristic of virtue signaling is that there is little to no cost associated with the act; simple public vocalization in support of a cause has no cost to the signaler. In Bartholomew's original article, he describes virtue signaling as a public act with very little associated cost that is intended to inform others of one's socially acceptable alignment on an issue.[3] Geoffrey Miller describes virtue signaling as an innate act, and something that all humans do and cannot avoid.[12]

This is great, but I think you're looking way too deep at this.  I live in Alabama.  If I saw someone with and OSU hat on doing something like that, I would have pointed that out as well (since I'm a native Ohioan).  Had the guy been wearing a "Vote Bernie" hat, I would have added that.    

Rotinaj

Senior Member

Thu, Feb 27, 2020 8:02 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

This is great, but I think you're looking way too deep at this.  I live in Alabama.  If I saw someone with and OSU hat on doing something like that, I would have pointed that out as well (since I'm a native Ohioan).  Had the guy been wearing a "Vote Bernie" hat, I would have added that.    

And so would CC. Also, odd that QO decided to post about the housing market. Isn’t the stock market usually his go to? Weird.

kizer permanente

Senior Member

Thu, Feb 27, 2020 8:21 PM
posted by Spock

His virtue signaling (along with yours) bother me.  No need to wear the hat and no need to mention that tidbit when describing someones asshatery (no pun intended)

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Thu, Feb 27, 2020 8:39 PM
posted by Rotinaj

And so would CC. Also, odd that QO decided to post about the housing market. Isn’t the stock market usually his go to? Weird.

When the market is up, it's because Trump did a great job that day. When it's down, sinister forces within the Democratic party are responsible. Don't you understand that?

 

Or it's because of the Big Bad Media. 

Spock

Senior Member

Thu, Feb 27, 2020 8:44 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

When the market is up, it's because Trump did a great job that day. When it's down, sinister forces within the Democratic party are responsible. Don't you understand that?

 

Or it's because of the Big Bad Media. 

Trump surely isnt responsible for the acute downturn.  It will correct itself back to something close to where it was in a few weeks when the media stops fearmongering about 1 person being sick

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Thu, Feb 27, 2020 8:59 PM
posted by Spock

Trump surely isnt responsible for the acute downturn.  It will correct itself back to something close to where it was in a few weeks when the media stops fearmongering about 1 person being sick

So there it is - the Big Bad Media is responsible.  

Automatik

Senior Member

Fri, Feb 28, 2020 8:26 AM

1 person. 
 

His poor students. 😞

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Fri, Feb 28, 2020 10:47 AM
posted by Spock

Read a little so you understand that the act of or expression of something in many forms can be characterized as "virtue signaling".

 

Virtue signaling rose in popularity as a pejorative term, denouncing empty acts of public commitment to unexceptional good causes. The term is characterized by the signaler's desire to show support for a cause without actually acting to support the cause in question. An important characteristic of virtue signaling is that there is little to no cost associated with the act; simple public vocalization in support of a cause has no cost to the signaler. In Bartholomew's original article, he describes virtue signaling as a public act with very little associated cost that is intended to inform others of one's socially acceptable alignment on an issue.[3] Geoffrey Miller describes virtue signaling as an innate act, and something that all humans do and cannot avoid.[12]

Okay, take the above definition ... the one you, yourself, just quoted ... and apply that here.  What is anyone supporting?  Feel free to use big-boy words if it helps.
 

posted by Automatik

1 person. 
 

His poor students. 😞

Isn't it like 50-something?  I mean, nobody in the US has died from it last I checked, but I had thought I'd heard the number was in the 50s, with all but 12 having been to China somewhat recently.
 

 

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Fri, Feb 28, 2020 10:50 AM
posted by O-Trap

For the record, we know what happened shortly after July 2007.

 

 

These are home sales, in units, which is obviously different from home values and lenders/creditors being under water as in ’07.  And of course, your BIG government moved in with more regulations to prevent such a collapse from happening remember?  LOL

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Fri, Feb 28, 2020 10:52 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

When the market is up, it's because Trump did a great job that day. When it's down, sinister forces within the Democratic party are responsible. Don't you understand that?

 

Or it's because of the Big Bad Media. 

 

 

 

Despite the sell-off, which has absolutely nothing to do with Trump’s ability to help set the table for economic growth and revitalization, the market is still up nearly 40% since his election.  Me thinks some people on a certain side of the spectrum will use current situation as just another way to try and bring him down.

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Fri, Feb 28, 2020 11:01 AM
posted by QuakerOats

 

 

These are home sales, in units, which is obviously different from home values and lenders/creditors being under water as in ’07.  And of course, your BIG government moved in with more regulations to prevent such a collapse from happening remember?  LOL

I know these are home sales, but part of the problem last time was that sub-prime mortgages were being handed out like bulletins at church.  People were buying houses left and right.  They just couldn't afford them, but they were getting approved anyway, in no small part because of the early '90s additions to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that allowed them to buy sub-prime mortgages (thanks for that, Barney Frank), which then prompted more sub-prime mortgages to be written.

And MY big government?

First, government is largely what caused the problems in '08.

Second, my point was that people buying homes is not a good economic indicator, because the housing market crash was preceded ... even contributed to ... by too much home buying.

Third ... c'mon, man.  I've outed myself as an AnCap numerous times.  YOUR version of government is exponentially larger than mine.

 

Spock

Senior Member

Fri, Feb 28, 2020 11:07 AM
posted by O-Trap

Okay, take the above definition ... the one you, yourself, just quoted ... and apply that here.  What is anyone supporting?  Feel free to use big-boy words if it helps.
 

posted by Automatik

1 person. 
 

His poor students. 😞

Isn't it like 50-something?  I mean, nobody in the US has died from it last I checked, but I had thought I'd heard the number was in the 50s, with all but 12 having been to China somewhat recently.
 

 

You do know that all the cases were brought home and did not originate here.  Only 1 has

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Fri, Feb 28, 2020 11:07 AM
posted by QuakerOats

 

 

 

Despite the sell-off, which has absolutely nothing to do with Trump’s ability to help set the table for economic growth and revitalization, the market is still up nearly 40% since his election.  Me thinks some people on a certain side of the spectrum will use current situation as just another way to try and bring him down.

The question you never answer:

 

Yes the market is up during Trump's time in office.  But he Dow went up 150% during Obama's terms.  The president is certainly a factor in the market, but one of many and it is arguable how much they have a near-term effect.  But since you always suggest market improvements are attributable to Trump, why wasn't Obama credited for the large market increase during his presidency?  

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Fri, Feb 28, 2020 11:08 AM
posted by QuakerOats

 

 

These are home sales, in units, which is obviously different from home values and lenders/creditors being under water as in ’07.  And of course, your BIG government moved in with more regulations to prevent such a collapse from happening remember?  LOL

If he's responsible for increases, why doesn't he get the blame for sell-offs?