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superman

Senior Member

Fri, May 27, 2022 11:47 PM

More people are killed every year by glass coffee tables than by ARs.  Anyone who wants to ban ARs can GFY.


Harden the schools.  


We protect our money with guns. We protect our politicians with guns.  

We protect our kids with signs.  It's fucking ridiculous at this point. 


Automatik

Senior Member

Fri, May 27, 2022 11:50 PM

Gun dork checking in^

Link? And…

You’re ok with an 18 year old HS drop out, wackadoo, Wendy’s employee purchasing an AR-15 with ease? 

It’s not a difficult question. 

Ironman92

Administrator

Fri, May 27, 2022 11:55 PM

How did the killer get to the kids? In the building? How’d he get in?

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 12:07 AM
posted by Ironman92

How did the killer get to the kids? In the building? How’d he get in?

Walked right through an unlocked door apparently. Feels like everything failed in this instance. Bad guy got a gun, the fortification of the school didnt work because the damn doors weren't even locked, and the police response was useless. 

majorspark

Senior Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 12:12 AM
posted by Automatik


You’re ok with an 18 year old HS drop out, wackadoo, Wendy’s employee purchasing an AR-15 with ease? 


I am more concerned with what this individual might do to my single with cheese.

gut

Senior Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 1:08 AM
posted by friendfromlowry

How many stupid fucking comparisons can we make tonight. 

Apparently not enough.  Also point sailing over your head.  My god, how fucking stupid and ignorant can you willfully be?!?

The flu kills more kids than mass shooters.  Is it stupid to ask why you only lose your shit over guns killing kids, but not over other things that kill even more kids?  If A>B, why is it a "stupid fucking comparison" to ask why you don't care about A?

gut

Senior Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 1:10 AM
posted by superman

More people are killed every year by glass coffee tables than by ARs. 

Appreciate your proving the left doesn't have a monopoly on stupid.

gut

Senior Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 1:12 AM
posted by Automatik

Just say, “we can and will do nothing” and be done with it. 


Come up with a viable solution or, as you say it, "GFY".

Facts, realities and common sense be damned. 

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 2:08 AM
posted by gut

Apparently not enough.  Also point sailing over your head.  My god, how fucking stupid and ignorant can you willfully be?!?

The flu kills more kids than mass shooters.  Is it stupid to ask why you only lose your shit over guns killing kids, but not over other things that kill even more kids?  If A>B, why is it a "stupid fucking comparison" to ask why you don't care about A?

Am I losing my shit? OP asked for ideas on the problem, I presented one that might have helped with this particular shooting while not interfering with anyone who otherwise legally owns all the guns and ammunition they want. You meanwhile posted 20+ times on the thread in one evening, initially started us off by complaining about Beto the other day, and had some absolutely ridiculously random post about CNN/bukkake/Nancy Pelosi. 

Idk what you want to hear about the flu. A may be greater than B, but A has been researched for decades and deaths are very rare. B is problem we don't have an answer for or any way to prevent really, hence the discussion at hand. Did I miss where 19 healthy kids suddenly dropped dead from the flu the other day and no one has any answers or solutions how to inevitably stop it from happening again? I need to go to the store later, should I tell my family I love them before I go in case I get the flu and die while there? 

Automatik

Senior Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 3:05 AM
posted by gut

Come up with a viable solution or, as you say it, "GFY".

Facts, realities and common sense be damned. 

What’s your suggestion/solution?


Again…


You’re ok with an 18 year old HS drop out, wackadoo, Wendy’s employee purchasing an AR-15 with ease? 

It’s a yes or no question. 



Zunardo

Senior Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 4:42 AM
posted by queencitybuckeye

I remember a bank robbery where fully automatic weapons were used (Los Angeles?), but am not aware of any mass shootings with them.

It would still be accurate to call the North Hollywood robbery and shoot-out a  "mass shooting" - 12 cops and 8 citizens were hit by the robbers, just blind luck none of them died.  1200 full-auto rounds shot by the bad guys wearing body armor.  Took 30 minutes for cops to get close enough and hit unprotected areas to slow them down before killing them.

Do I have the answer?  Wish I did.  I'm not a mental health expert.  But most folks make it through school despite being made fun of.  Been asking myself why this guy went after those particular 4th graders.  If it was because of being bullied or teased, why didn't he go after his fellow seniors who supposedly had tormented him all those years?  Or did he know that seniors in Texas have CCW's and are packing in school?   

I do know simply banning semi-auto rifles won't have much appreciable effect on gun death rates.  Those in favor of it will feel better about themselves, so I guess that's something.



Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 6:50 AM
posted by gut

I don't disagree something is different.  I just don't see evidence that guns are the cause.

I'm pretty sure America has a much bigger issue with alcohol relative to Europe, as well.  Obesity,,,,,We could go on and on, and I'm pretty sure the reason is cultural and not the food, beer or guns.

But what is it in our culture?


superman

Senior Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 7:52 AM
posted by gut
Appreciate your proving the left doesn't have a monopoly on stupid.

It's an FBI statistic you fucking moron.  

Fletch

Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 7:54 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

But what is it in our culture?


That’s a long list and gun ownership shouldn’t be in the top 10.



Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 8:29 AM
posted by Fletch

That’s a long list and gun ownership shouldn’t be in the top 10.



This post adds nothing to the discussion.  


geeblock

Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 8:52 AM

This thread is turning into what about this what about that.. drunk driving, medical bias, obesity, gang violence ect… just say you don’t have a solution or are ok with school shootings happening every so often 

superman

Senior Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 9:11 AM
posted by geeblock

This thread is turning into what about this what about that.. drunk driving, medical bias, obesity, gang violence ect… just say you don’t have a solution or are ok with school shootings happening every so often 

Harden the schools is the best solution. Several people have brought it up

geeblock

Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 9:27 AM
posted by superman

Harden the schools is the best solution. Several people have brought it up

That could help but campuses nowadays are too big and too spread out. 


Fletch

Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 9:29 AM

Funding school security is #1.  Most schools that have resource officers and private security have to pay for it with grant money or money taken from vital educational resources.

Federal government fund it to the gills and see if that solves the issue.  Easy to tell within a year.  

The problem with this is that there are sick SOB in DC that won’t want to fund this because it destroys their narratives on reducing gun ownership.

Fletch

Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 9:29 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

This post adds nothing to the discussion.  


And yours does?


Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 9:33 AM
posted by Fletch

And yours does?


I was trying to get you to provide specific suggestions, which you did subsequently.  So good job.


superman

Senior Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 9:58 AM
posted by geeblock

That could help but campuses nowadays are too big and too spread out. 


Whiny baby: no one is giving a solution

Me: here's a solution that several people have given

Whiny baby: not like that 




geeblock

Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 10:13 AM
posted by superman

Whiny baby: no one is giving a solution

Me: here's a solution that several people have given

Whiny baby: not like that 




Well I have worked in education for 27 years sorry for adding my input. It’s not 1955, many  schools are the size of college campuses. Sorry if I hurt u tho 



superman

Senior Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 10:14 AM
posted by geeblock

Well I have worked in education for 27 years sorry for adding my input


What is your solution?  

geeblock

Member

Sat, May 28, 2022 10:43 AM
posted by superman

What is your solution?  

I said start by making it 21 to get a gun