posted by ptown_trojans_1

Not fake, I went back and read the original NYT story. The intel at the time said they had medium confidence on it. Now, they are saying it was low confidence it happened. I think that warrents a what the fuck happened in the intel verification process by the House and Senate Intel committees because either way it is a fuck up by the intelligence community. 

Perhaps it was one of the "six ways from Sunday" Schumer warned about.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Not fake, I went back and read the original NYT story. The intel at the time said they had medium confidence on it. Now, they are saying it was low confidence it happened. I think that warrents a what the fuck happened in the intel verification process by the House and Senate Intel committees because either way it is a fuck up by the intelligence community. 

Intel or fake sources? Was there a name of the Intel individual bc that would seem like a good place to start. 

posted by iclfan2

Intel or fake sources? Was there a name of the Intel individual bc that would seem like a good place to start. 

Nope there was not, just officials on background, which is normal for any story. So, a good hearing by the Senate and House would be a good place to start and determine process and how accurate the intel really was to the IC. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Not fake, I went back and read the original NYT story. The intel at the time said they had medium confidence on it. Now, they are saying it was low confidence it happened. I think that warrents a what the fuck happened in the intel verification process by the House and Senate Intel committees because either way it is a fuck up by the intelligence community. 

Yes, this is clearly how the media portrayed this story LOL.

This Biden guy is turning out to be a real foreign policy genius.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Not from Manchin or Sinema, as they have a typical narrow view of infrastructure, so I expect it to be paired down as it moves through the Senate. 

The everything is infrastructure is dumb as shit. As someone who works in the field, yes we do need more spending on it, but everything does not fall in the category...

Narrow view as in "words have meaning"?

posted by majorspark

This Biden guy is turning out to be a real foreign policy genius.

I hope so, because his domestic policy is a disaster

posted by QuakerOats

I hope so, because his domestic policy is a disaster

Steel production is up in the US and two new metal fabrication plants have been announced in Alabama.  Sounds like Biden's a super genius. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Not fake, I went back and read the original NYT story. The intel at the time said they had medium confidence on it. Now, they are saying it was low confidence it happened. I think that warrents a what the fuck happened in the intel verification process by the House and Senate Intel committees because either way it is a fuck up by the intelligence community. 

Actually, it was a fuck up in "journalism".

Big news just pushes narratives. And have we ever seen such a coordinated narrative between various news medias than what we seen during the Trump years? Have we ever seen such a vast amount of unnamed sources as we saw during the Trump years? The amount of times news medias have been caught stealth-editing is jaw-dropping and they have almost always been unapologetic after being caught out; they won't even address it. 

Neolibs and progressives fill in just about every corner of the media market. "But FOX news and Breitbart!" has never been a valid argument, no matter how hard contrarians were pumping it. As far as the fake news claim goes, it is absolutely fake when looked scrutinized with knowledge of who is president at any given time. 

Let's compare!

Trump news: "Muh Russian bounties!"

Biden news: "Major and Champ in the Whitehouse!"

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Steel production is up in the US and two new metal fabrication plants have been announced in Alabama.  Sounds like Biden's a super genius. 

coat tails .................    and soon those will be burned with the new assaults on tax, regulatory fronts.

posted by QuakerOats

coat tails .................    and soon those will be burned with the new assaults on tax, regulatory fronts.

Yeah, but you were giving Trump credit for metrics like this within his first couple of months.  What gives?  Could it be that the macro economy is not as interested in who's president as you may have suggested from '16-'20?

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Yeah, but you were giving Trump credit for metrics like this within his first couple of months.  What gives?  Could it be that the macro economy is not as interested in who's president as you may have suggested from '16-'20?

Trump had the benefit of the confidence factor right out of the gate; people/businesses were willing to take risks and invest knowing they would not be assaulted for at least 4 years. 

posted by QuakerOats

Trump had the benefit of the confidence factor right out of the gate; people/businesses were willing to take risks and invest knowing they would not be assaulted for at least 4 years. 

Well, your theories seem kind of, sort of, well just a little politically biased.  How long into Biden's term will his business illiteracy begin to undo Trump's business acumen?  3-6 months?  6-12 months?  

My point isn't that Biden is some sort of blessing to industry.  It's just that you were so adamant that every single blip in the Dow or new factory opening in the Trump terms was due to his great leadership.  Hard to reconcile that now.

Shocked they came back guilty on all counts. Not sure all 3 will hold up on appeal, either way fuck’em. No reason to riot now...

posted by iclfan2

Shocked they came back guilty on all counts. Not sure all 3 will hold up on appeal, either way fuck’em. No reason to riot now...

I haven't followed it enough, or completely understand "depraved indifference".  But I feel like at some point well before 9 minutes that this might be as good an example as any.  And it's that last count may basically guarantees life in prison with a 40 year max.

Only discussing as a curiosity.  Chauvin deserves everything he gets.

Pretending to care about Asians didn’t last long.

NOT AGREED TO 49-48, Cruz/Kennedy amendment #1456 (prohibit Federal funding for any institution of higher learning that discriminates against Asian Americans in recruitment, applicant review and admissions) to S. 937 (COVID-19 Hate Crimes). 60 yea vote threshold.

— Senate Periodicals (@SenatePPG) April 22, 2021

lol

Biden was the only one who wore a mask..... on a video call.... with world leaders........... pic.twitter.com/oWCODZ9cz0

— Chance Coleman (@ChanceTyColeman) April 23, 2021

Fake news Justin! You can’t see anyone from France or Italy or the ROK leaders face. 

posted by justincredible

lol

Biden was the only one who wore a mask..... on a video call.... with world leaders........... pic.twitter.com/oWCODZ9cz0

— Chance Coleman (@ChanceTyColeman) April 23, 2021

He is a useful idiot

posted by justincredible

lol

Biden was the only one who wore a mask..... on a video call.... with world leaders........... pic.twitter.com/oWCODZ9cz0

— Chance Coleman (@ChanceTyColeman) April 23, 2021

LOL...reminds me of the guy I saw wearing a mask, on his riding mower, in the middle of a huge yard with nobody within 300 yards of him.

posted by BR1986FB

LOL...reminds me of the guy I saw wearing a mask, on his riding mower, in the middle of a huge yard with nobody within 300 yards of him.

You get Zika from mosquitoes, and then everyone has forgotten about the Murder Hornets....SMFH over people dumb enough to venture outdoors.

posted by gut

You get Zika from mosquitoes, and then everyone has forgotten about the Murder Hornets....SMFH over people dumb enough to venture outdoors.

I won't leave my house without a hazmat suit.

posted by gut

You get Zika from mosquitoes, and then everyone has forgotten about the Murder Hornets....SMFH over people dumb enough to venture outdoors.

Murder hornets got totally screwed this year.  Here they are, a tough bug with a badass name, all set for invasion.  Probably flying in, when BAM!!! COVID hits.  Leaders had to say to the rest, "Guys, I'm proud to have the baddest group of Murder Hornets ever assembled.  Unfortunately there is a pandemic on.  We're going to circle back to where we came and try again next year.  You boys deserve front page coverage.  I'm not taking you in until we can get that.  But you're still Murder Hornets.   Don't ever forget that."

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

"We're going to circle back to where we came and try again next year. "

posted by BR1986FB

LOL...reminds me of the guy I saw wearing a mask, on his riding mower, in the middle of a huge yard with nobody within 300 yards of him.

Maybe he has allergies.

https://www.bcm.edu/news/how-can-masks-help-allergies