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Yep, that dimentia mtherfuvker is about to start world war 2. Just ask Donny
QuakerOats
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Meanwhile, the biden administration has just announced a major 'about face' and they will BUILD THE WALL in Texas as the illegal immigration disaster reaches catastrophic levels. They will also suspend dozens of laws and rules to get it done immediately. Unfortunately millions need to be sent back and it won't happen. Cartels in complete control of this bozo and his leftist regime.
gut
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posted by QuakerOatsI like how this is being spun as "Joe the Moderate!" taking decisive action, when it's really because Democrats in big cities are absolutely fed-up with the migrant crisis.Meanwhile, the biden administration has just announced a major 'about face' and they will BUILD THE WALL
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posted by gut
I like how this is being spun as "Joe the Moderate!" taking decisive action, when it's really because Democrats in big cities are absolutely fed-up with the migrant crisis.
Such a shame sanctuary cities have to deal with their shitty policies. It was all fun and games as long as the south had to deal with them.
gut
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posted by iclfan2Such a shame sanctuary cities have to deal with their shitty policies. It was all fun and games as long as the south had to deal with them.
Have to admit, I always assumed illegals dispersed fairly quickly to all corners of the US, with or without a free bus trip.
Maybe they do stay closer to the border (i.e. Dallas, Vegas, etc), but it seems surprising that a few dozen bus loads to Chicago would suddenly cripple their infrastructure...
Of course, a more cynical take might be that this hasn't been crippling at all, but rather the Dem mayors are using it as a distraction from their other failed policies.
QuakerOats
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Over 40 confidential FBI sources say there's evidence of CRIMINAL activity committed by Joe, James and Hunter Biden: Sen. Chuck Grassley accuses Biden's DOJ of shutting down concerns
Dr Winston O'Boogie
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Now we’ve got one another of these nutty ass evangelical Trump acolytes in the speaker position, we can safely assume our government will continue to spend its time focusing in nonsense the extreme tips of the right and left wings care about - and nothing meaningful.
gut
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posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieNow we’ve got one another of these nutty ass evangelical Trump acolytes in the speaker position,
And it wouldn't have been possible without the help of all the Democrats!
Heretic
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posted by gutAnd it wouldn't have been possible without the help of all the Democrats!
Did anyone expect anything different? It's always great to know that our nation's "rulers" are a bunch of absolute morons who'd find a way to run a restaurant into the ground even if it was the only dine-out experience in a 30-mile radius.
"No, no, no, this is the Rs problem! Look how dysfunctional and divided they are and remember that in 2024 because they're too stupid to be in charge!!!!"
"Wait, no fair, they just gave the job to a religious nutjob who stands against all of our hot-button issues! WHHHHYYYYYYYYY?!?!?!?"
On the other hand, a person could say that making a guy like Johnson the Speaker has the potential to be one of those short-term gains that turns into long-term losses, but that's pretty much the entire end-game of MAGA policy. Crow about every single victory and then, when you have losses, respond "WHAT ME LOSE? THAT'S UNPOSSIBLE!!!!!" and claim the fix is in. Both ways are equally good at firing up the base, so virtually everything is a no lose situation for them.
gut
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posted by HereticOn the other hand, a person could say that making a guy like Johnson the Speaker has the potential to be one of those short-term gains that turns into long-term losses, but that's pretty much the entire end-game of MAGA policy. Crow about every single victory and then, when you have losses, respond "WHAT ME LOSE? THAT'S UNPOSSIBLE!!!!!" and claim the fix is in. Both ways are equally good at firing up the base, so virtually everything is a no lose situation for them.
I don't disagree with any of that. But a lot of these people are aspiring career politicians that only represent themselves.
Gaetz actually made some good points about his position. But I think he was full of shit - it wasn't genuine or about principle but raising his profile.
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-faces-new-indictment-california
Thus far: $24 million channeled through 20 shell companies. Estimates are in the $50 million + range, when the investigations are finished. Impeachment inquiry should pass on a formal vote next week which will allow for more evidence to be gathered and compiled. Joe right in the middle of it all. WH is compromised.
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It really isn't funny anymore.
CenterBHSFan
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I might be looking like a softie, but I don't care.
But everybody might have noticed that I haven't really had too much to say about Biden. Since he let it be known that he was running for President, I have felt sympathy for him. Because of my own experiences of being primary caretaker of my mother, I can't help but feel/think differently than most people here. Not for his (handlers) politics, his son, etc. But because of where he is at in his life. It just doesn't sit well with me to criticize every damn thing he does or says, because I don't think he can help much of it. It's all a sad state of affairs imo.
Dr Winston O'Boogie
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A man who should be in assisted living vs. a sociopath. What a choice!!
gut
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posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieA man who should be in assisted living vs. a sociopath. What a choice!!
The irony is all those people that held their nose and voted for Biden to block Trump, only to possibly have Trump get a 2nd term, anyway, AND 4 years of Biden.
That's a real shit-sandwich. But, as they say, we get the politicians we deserve.
justincredible
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So who are they gonna replace Biden with?
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posted by justincredibleSo who are they gonna replace Biden with?
Well, we need to wait for Ptown's take on this one. For years he has told us that Biden's health is in perfect condition and it was a figment of our imagination that Biden's cognitive abilities were sinking exponentially.
If he confirms that this is no longer the case with Biden's health, then we can start talking about a replacement.
Adding this article for context on how quickly age no longer became a factor for presidential candidates (take note of the age of McCain at this time and Biden's age now): https://www.politico.com/story/2008/05/mccains-age-is-a-legitimate-issue-010529
justincredible
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This is funny.
Joe Biden to his staff: “We need to go on offense tonight.”
— House Judiciary GOP (@JudiciaryGOP) February 9, 2024
The offense: pic.twitter.com/xN5Ow9S8o6
gut
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LOL, seems like whatever cocktail of experimental drugs they've been pumping into Biden are no longer enough.
But Biden may be too stubborn to be talked out of running. Although, if there is a plan [and you can't dismiss there is], it's pretty clear they've been teeing up Newsome to take the nomination WITHOUT a primary process. That simply wouldn't be surprising from the "pro-Democracy" party.
gut
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Anyway, it seems like the plan will be to have surrogates stump for Biden trashing Trump on his many legal issues and his "participation in insurrection".
That would be a remarkable way to run a campaign, at least in a non-covid year. But then it's also remarkable how Biden has gotten away with far fewer pressers, much shorter when he actually does them, and very limited campaigning. He's not even doing the cupcake SB interview, for the second time, which to be fair only really became a thing with Obama (and Trump skipped one, as well).
Dr Winston O'Boogie
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posted by gutThe irony is all those people that held their nose and voted for Biden to block Trump, only to possibly have Trump get a 2nd term, anyway, AND 4 years of Biden.
That's a real shit-sandwich. But, as they say, we get the politicians we deserve.
There's plenty of irony all the way around.
gut
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posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieThere's plenty of irony all the way around.
True. And I'm not convinced Trump can actually win. There's plenty of evidence some registered Republicans will not vote for him, and some would even switch to Biden.
And in swing states decided by less than 2% of the vote, you only need about 2.5% of your base to switch to Biden, or 5% to simply stay home or vote 3rd party. So, right now, it looks like Trump has no path to victory. HOWEVER, Biden also appears to be losing support among his base, so that could offset the "never-Trumpers".
In either case, Trump will likely hurt Repubs down ballot, so they probably lose the House. The Senate numbers strongly favor Repubs, but Trump might make that another thin margin.
As long as we get divided govt, which does better by passing less harmful legislation, I'm good.
ernest_t_bass
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I completely understand why people would not vote for Trump. But I do not understand, even slightly, how anyone can confidently vote for Biden. I understand the, "I vote for Biden because I won't vote for Trump" logic, but why wouldn't you go 3rd party? How can anyone conscientiously and confidently say that Biden and his administration are best for the country?
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posted by gut
True. And I'm not convinced Trump can actually win. There's plenty of evidence some registered Republicans will not vote for him, and some would even switch to Biden.
And in swing states decided by less than 2% of the vote, you only need about 2.5% of your base to switch to Biden, or 5% to simply stay home or vote 3rd party. So, right now, it looks like Trump has no path to victory. HOWEVER, Biden also appears to be losing support among his base, so that could offset the "never-Trumpers".
In either case, Trump will likely hurt Repubs down ballot, so they probably lose the House. The Senate numbers strongly favor Repubs, but Trump might make that another thin margin.
As long as we get divided govt, which does better by passing less harmful legislation, I'm good.
Impression I get is that the more moderate Rs aren't keen on Trump and/or MAGA-World over some combination of his corruption and that faction's general "It's all about me/my way or the highway" way of doing things that tends to turn things into a clown show (ie: the recent debacles as to who is the House Speaker). But at the same time, the uber-Progs aren't all that into Biden due to the whole "support Israel no matter what" thing where he might occasionally say something about how they might be going too far, but still stands in their corner.
One of those things where it'll be interesting to see if those eroding fanbases leads to some other candidate/party getting momentum or if it just leads to general apathy and an all-time low in voting. This is a really weird year where, outside of both candidates' (and/or their parties in general) true-blue fanbases, I just don't know that anyone really cares about either guy beyond simply casting a vote for their team. In 2016, you at least had the Trump wave and in 2020, you had the anti-Trump wave to generate legit buzz for one candidate or another, but this time...you have the loud, annoying-ass supporters of both guys and then a lot of silence and people holding their nose.