Haha mayor of London now trying to ban knives. It’s almost like the banning of guns doesn’t actually cut down on violence.

There was another article about how London had more murders than NYC in a month recently, because open borders and unchecked immigration also doesn’t work.

posted by CenterBHSFan

  Democrats are not going to be happy with BET founder, Robert Johnson.

I'll laugh when they start telling black people to boycott BET.

posted by iclfan2

Haha mayor of London now trying to ban knives. It’s almost like the banning of guns doesn’t actually cut down on violence.

There was another article about how London had more murders than NYC in a month recently, because open borders and unchecked immigration also doesn’t work.

This vid kinda goes along with what's happening in London:

posted by gut

I'll laugh when they start telling black people to boycott BET.

 

How long until talcum x calls him Uncle Tom?

posted by superman

How long until talcum x calls him Uncle Tom?

"A family just sent me this. They were bothered."

Zuckerberg wavers as pro-Trump social media stars Diamond and Silk slam Facebook’s ‘unsafe’ tag

Facebook is reconsidering classifying videos produced by Diamond and Silk as "unsafe to the community" after the duo went on Fox News' morning show asking why the embattled social media giant had labeled them as such.

Is there any way to actually fact-check all these claims of censorship by conservatives?

posted by gut

Is there any way to actually fact-check all these claims of censorship by conservatives?

Most people post emails that I’ve seen.

The only proof I need is that the CEO of Twitter posted an article with his caption saying “Great Read” which was about a civil war in which liberals would somehow win, and based it on how liberal California is such a great place to live bc of Democrat rule. It was the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen. Posted below

https://medium.com/s/state-of-the-future/the-great-lesson-of-california-in-americas-new-civil-war-e52e2861f30

posted by iclfan2

......and based it on how liberal California is such a great place to live bc of Democrat rule. It was the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen.

Saw a blurb about a law being proposed that any internet media with a physical presence in CA would have to have state approved people to validate/vet news stories.  Essentially institutionalizing censorship.  Absolutely shocking and alarming that in 2018 an American would propose something like that.

And I think a lot of these liberals are so crazy that they'll think this is a great idea to combat fake news....and completely fail to see the slippery slope of fascism and free speech.   "it's not propaganda because we aren't telling them what to write, just what they can't write.....duuuuhhhhhh, like huge difference"

posted by iclfan2

Most people post emails that I’ve seen.

The only proof I need is that the CEO of Twitter posted an article with his caption saying “Great Read” which was about a civil war in which liberals would somehow win, and based it on how liberal California is such a great place to live bc of Democrat rule. It was the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen. Posted below

https://medium.com/s/state-of-the-future/the-great-lesson-of-california-in-americas-new-civil-war-e52e2861f30

 

I can't believe this guy took time out of his life to write this entire thing.  LOL

So in the past week....

Zuckerberg testifying about developing AI tools to filter speech.

CA talking about requiring companies to hire people to identify and remove fake news

FBI raids the offices of Trump's lawyer.

Remember, Trump was the fascist who was a dire threat to our freedom and liberty.

posted by gut

So in the past week....

 

Zuckerberg testifying about developing AI tools to filter speech.

CA talking about requiring companies to hire people to identify and remove fake news

FBI raids the offices of Trump's lawyer.

 

Remember, Trump was the fascist who was a dire threat to our freedom and liberty.

I missed this story.

But our fascism is cheeky and fun. Their fascism is cruel, and tragic.

posted by like_that

I missed this story.

I have read stories of several bills being proposed in the CA state legislature to address "fake news".  Anywhere from teaching kids in school how to identify it to outright outlawing it.  At this point they go nowhere.  But still scary to think there are leftist loons elected to high levels of government proposing this kind of shit.

posted by majorspark

I have read stories of several bills being proposed in the CA state legislature to address "fake news".  

Where "net neutrality" is concerned, throttling Netflix is bloody murder...Facebook and Google picking winners among bloggers and news media, not so much.

I suppose this ultimately ends with "safe spaces" on the internet.  And if we can force bars that people never visit to ban smoking because those people don't like it, then is it much of a leap that internet sites people never visit could be sanctioned because those people don't like the content?  Or to use the bar example, all that really had to be done was Google drop it from searches and maps, effectively putting it out of business.

posted by justincredible

But our fascism is cheeky and fun. Their fascism is cruel, and tragic.

And also deemed by themselves as moral, so it is ok!!!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/12/exclusive-splitting-california-three-step-closer-billionaire/

May happen someday 

posted by QuakerOats

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/12/exclusive-splitting-california-three-step-closer-billionaire/

 

May happen someday 

Wouldn't this require ratification by 36 other states, along with a 2/3 vote of Congress?

And the problem, as I see it, is that splitting CA into 3 states would give them 4 more Senators, which dilutes the power of other states and probably tilts in Republican favor (so every blue state will oppose it).

posted by gut

Wouldn't this require ratification by 36 other states, along with a 2/3 vote of Congress?

And the problem, as I see it, is that splitting CA into 3 states would give them 4 more Senators, which dilutes the power of other states and probably tilts in Republican favor (so every blue state will oppose it).

I dunno about the first part.  I mean, there would indeed be four new Senators, but the two from each respective state wouldn't necessarily be associated with those from the other formerly-California states.

But yeah, that might indeed add red states.

Another reason NOT to trust polls! (sorry Ptown) (not really)

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/984771308134260736

@NateSilver538

If Comey's decision to release the letter on Oct. 28 was influenced by his interpretation of the polls, that really ought to cut against his image as an honorable, principled decision-maker. Instead, he was just being expedient and trying to save his own hide.

Has anyone seen this before?  http://www.people-press.org/interactives/political-polarization-1994-2017/

It's pretty interesting.  Kinda proves the point that even though both sides have their idiots, liberals apparently  have a lot more considering how far left the median has gone for them.  Democrats are 60% more liberal since 1994 and Republicans 8% more conservative since 1994.  A couple things I found interesting:

-How center republicans were in the early 2000's.  It makes sense why we have a bunch of spineless representatives and why the GOP has been terrible at fiscal policy since then.

-How centered the dems were since 1994 until 2011.  2011 to 2017 is when they made a huge leap closer to radical left.  

I know I have said there is no place for moderates in today's political climate, but based on that plot it's much easier to realize how far the Dems have gone vs the Republicans.  People who continuously vote GOP, because they believe it is something it no longer is (small government, fiscal conservative, etc) annoy the fuck out of me, but I can also see why they fall for it considering they still have some people who hold some of their values here and there.  As for the Dems, going that far left is really not that hard to see.  At what point will "normal" liberals  realize the DNC is no longer their party?  I know classic liberals like Dave Rubin have recognized it.  I am waiting to see when the general left recognizes it.  Obviously Trump being so polarizing has played a factor as well.  If the GOP had someone else in the white house, do you all think "normal" liberals would recognize how radical the DNC is becoming?   I have a few friends who work in politics and they have recognized it, but they are in that awkward territory where they have been dems their entire lives and work for them. 

FWIW I consider most if not all liberals on this site as the "normal" liberals.  There are a few here that have gone full retard, but that doesn't represent the majority of you all. 

posted by like_that

Has anyone seen this before?  http://www.people-press.org/interactives/political-polarization-1994-2017/

It's pretty interesting.  Kinda proves the point that even though both sides have their idiots, liberals apparently  have a lot more considering how far left the median has gone for them.  Democrats are 60% more liberal since 1994 and Republicans 8% more conservative since 1994.  A couple things I found interesting:

-How center republicans were in the early 2000's.  It makes sense why we have a bunch of spineless representatives and why the GOP has been terrible at fiscal policy since then.

-How centered the dems were since 1994 until 2011.  2011 to 2017 is when they made a huge leap closer to radical left.  

I know I have said there is no place for moderates in today's political climate, but based on that plot it's much easier to realize how far the Dems have gone vs the Republicans.  People who continuously vote GOP, because they believe it is something it no longer is (small government, fiscal conservative, etc) annoy the fuck out of me, but I can also see why they fall for it considering they still have some people who hold some of their values here and there.  As for the Dems, going that far left is really not that hard to see.  At what point will "normal" liberals  realize the DNC is no longer their party?  I know classic liberals like Dave Rubin have recognized it.  I am waiting to see when the general left recognizes it.  Obviously Trump being so polarizing has played a factor as well.  If the GOP had someone else in the white house, do you all think "normal" liberals would recognize how radical the DNC is becoming?   I have a few friends who work in politics and they have recognized it, but they are in that awkward territory where they have been dems their entire lives and work for them. 

FWIW I consider most if not all liberals on this site as the "normal" liberals.  There are a few here that have gone full retard, but that doesn't represent the majority of you all. 

That pew link is a little misleading IMHO as the Democrats have gone to the left since the 1990's whereas the Republicans started their ascent to the right much earlier. The near complete elimination of southern and rural democrats has further cemented the Democratic party as a left-wing party. 

The Vote View project is pretty good IMHO. 

https://legacy.voteview.com/political_polarization_2015.htm

@Like_that

I've said many times before that the far left is now mainstream. Radical if you will. To the point where:

1.) Jokes that are subjectively offensive cannot be told

2.) Subjectively offensive statues cannot be seen by the walk-by public

3.) Almost impossible to wear a simple Halloween costume

4.) If you do not support far left activism you are homophobic, transphobic, Islamaphobic, secularphobic (I've actually seen this a few times), trans exclusionary radical feminism/phobic, cuckphobic... there's almost no end to the mis-termed phobias. 

5.) Any type of masculinity is toxic

6.) White silence is violence

7.) Individualism is rejected, you must be part of a collective

8.) Parity is the new equality

9.) White patriarchy is murder (yet white silence is somehow violence)

We've seen these types of behaviors here in this forum. And not just isadore. 

It should not take anybody by surprise that studies and statistics are predicting that the youngest crop of GenZ is going to be the most conservative in generations. The left has pushed it that far and the snapback is going to sting. When the left calls Dave Rubin "to the right of Breitbart", you know that the far left is now mainstream. 

I've also stated before that this is a problem that is going to have to be changed from within. Nobody on the "left" will listen to reason from anybody on the right, so the "right" is automatically excluded. If anybody here considers themselves on the left side of the political spectrum, better roll up your shirtsleeves and get busy!

*Edit to add*

At this point, I'm glad I left the left decades ago. The process wasn't overnight and looking back, I probably couldn't name the actual problems within the party that were edging me out in the way that I could name them today. I just knew that the ideology of the party was changing in an organic way. 
I suppose that that is the reason I harp on the democrats much more than I ever have on the republicans. Being born and raised as a democrat, I can see just how much of a wild turn the party has become. And, not to age myself or to punch down in any way, some of us in the eldest crop of GenX saw this coming for a long time. The youngest GenX'ers and millenials didn't experience it in the same way, through no fault of their own. Sure they can read words about it or listen to others talk about it, but it's not exactly the same. 

^^  excellent post

posted by CenterBHSFan

And, not to age myself or to punch down in any way, some of us in the eldest crop of GenX saw this coming for a long time. The youngest GenX'ers and millenials didn't experience it in the same way, through no fault of their own. Sure they can read words about it or listen to others talk about it, but it's not exactly the same. 

Even for late Gen Xers and Xennials, it's actually a pretty notable difference.  I was too young to vote or fully understand the actual issues themselves at the time, but even early on in the Clinton administration, those who would have proudly called themselves Democrats appeared and spoke very differently than they do today.

And while I would say that the same is true for Republicans, I can't say it's been to the same degree.  Whether it means they were already further polarized or whether it means they're getting a late start, I can't say, but the political climate just looks so different today than it did then.  The groups are so notably different from where they were just a few administrations ago.

Frankly, I have a harder and harder time trying to find the "good" side of either of them, anymore.  We're getting to a point at which both seem to want to control your money and civil liberties.  The only argument is over what they want to spend it on.