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Devils Advocate

Brudda o da bomber

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 12:26 AM

Oh come on fan, you know don’Dann well 5 of the justices went after Roe after they swore the wouldn’t. The Supreme Court legislates all of the time. Let’s examine qualified immunity and and civil forfeiture laws.  If I wasn’t so fucked up, I would give you a few other obscenitile thoughts. However, I wil choose Tia lambast my hyperbolic verbiage’s at you to call you a pee pee head

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 7:58 AM
posted by Devils Advocate

Oh come on fan, you know don’Dann well 5 of the justices went after Roe after they swore the wouldn’t. The Supreme Court legislates all of the time. Let’s examine qualified immunity and and civil forfeiture laws.  If I wasn’t so fucked up, I would give you a few other obscenitile thoughts. However, I wil choose Tia lambast my hyperbolic verbiage’s at you to call you a pee pee head

LOL!

majorspark

Senior Member

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 10:06 AM

This is currently the case.  In fact some adults with children not only pay less tax but in some cases get paid tax money.

geeblock

Member

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 10:22 AM
posted by majorspark

This is currently the case.  In fact some adults with children not only pay less tax but in some cases get paid tax money.

I agree, I’ve never thought it was fair that people get thousands in credits for having kids  for 18 years while I  pay 25% tax rate. Then complain about student loan forgiveness cause they can’t get it . 


majorspark

Senior Member

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 10:42 AM

Fairness does not buy votes.

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 10:44 AM
posted by geeblock

I agree, I’ve never thought it was fair that people get thousands in credits for having kids  for 18 years while I  pay 25% tax rate. Then complain about student loan forgiveness cause they can’t get it . 


Facts

jmog

Senior Member

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 11:13 AM
posted by geeblock

Similarly scotus appointees said they had no plans to go after roe vs wade during confirmation correct?  Every bill or law starts as an idea. You don’t necessarily disagree with these ideas so of course you don’t care. I’m sure if project 2025 said free health care, free head start, or some idea the dems had that you disagreed with you would similarly post negatively about it. 


I am genuinely curious, because I saw some of their confirmation hearings but not all of them.


Who said they weren’t going after Roe v Wade during their confirmation hearings and what words were said?


jmog

Senior Member

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 11:16 AM
posted by geeblock

He’ll no wtf 


https://x.com/acnewsitics/status/1816910176219431410?s=46&t=xrxfs6mLIefacKYITrkV2A

You do realize that what he said is literally already the tax law right?


You get to claim your children and get child tax credits. So 2 people making $100k and one of them has 3 kids while the other has none….the one without any already pays a higher effective tax rate. 



You may not like what he said but what he said is literally already tax law.

Trueblue23

BASEDgod

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 11:19 AM
posted by jmog

I am genuinely curious, because I saw some of their confirmation hearings but not all of them.


Who said they weren’t going after Roe v Wade during their confirmation hearings and what words were said?


None of them did, they simply refused to speculate on precedence or  possible future cases.... a practice that was widely accepted when started by Ruth Bader-Ginsburg.

jmog

Senior Member

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 3:41 PM
posted by Trueblue23

None of them did, they simply refused to speculate on precedence or  possible future cases.... a practice that was widely accepted when started by Ruth Bader-Ginsburg.

Thats what I heard in the parts I saw, but I was willing to be wrong/have missed something. 


geeblock

Member

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 5:03 PM
posted by jmog

You do realize that what he said is literally already the tax law right?


You get to claim your children and get child tax credits. So 2 people making $100k and one of them has 3 kids while the other has none….the one without any already pays a higher effective tax rate. 



You may not like what he said but what he said is literally already tax law.

Yes I don’t like it and I don’t like the way he presents it as how cool it is and also Charlie Kirk sucks so all of that 


geeblock

Member

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 5:05 PM
posted by jmog

I am genuinely curious, because I saw some of their confirmation hearings but not all of them.


Who said they weren’t going after Roe v Wade during their confirmation hearings and what words were said?


The words I believe were I have no plans to overturn roe va wade from memory. When I said “go after” probly not best words. That  wasn’t said 


sportchampps

Senior Member

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 6:03 PM

 Not to mention families with no kids also got less stimulus but I’ll gladly stay a DINK

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 6:19 PM

What’s Trump mean when he tells”Christians, my beautiful Christians go vote.  In four years it will be fixed so you don’t have to.”


What’s that mean?

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 6:45 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

What’s Trump mean when he tells”Christians, my beautiful Christians go vote.  In four years it will be fixed so you don’t have to.”


What’s that mean?

I don't know, did he have a rally today?

Go watch a vid and get back to us with your summary.

jmog

Senior Member

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 7:04 PM
posted by geeblock

The words I believe were I have no plans to overturn roe va wade from memory. When I said “go after” probly not best words. That  wasn’t said 


I don’t believe even what you just said was said. As someone said above all the way back to Ruth Ginsberg nominees have avoided tough case questions from the other side of the aisle by saying “it’s not appropriate to comment about possible future cases” or something along those lines.


majorspark

Senior Member

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 7:11 PM
posted by geeblock

Yes I don’t like it and I don’t like the way he presents it as how cool it is and also Charlie Kirk sucks so all of that 


You have mentioned student loan forgiveness.  Do you like it?  The way its presented?

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 7:46 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

I don't know, did he have a rally today?

Go watch a vid and get back to us with your summary.

Negative


geeblock

Member

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 8:02 PM
posted by jmog

I don’t believe even what you just said was said. As someone said above all the way back to Ruth Ginsberg nominees have avoided tough case questions from the other side of the aisle by saying “it’s not appropriate to comment about possible future cases” or something along those lines.


They all said it was re affirmed many times and it was a precedent that was reaffirmed for 50 years and left it at that. 

geeblock

Member

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 8:03 PM
posted by majorspark

You have mentioned student loan forgiveness.  Do you like it?  The way its presented?

I’m for anything that helps working class people 


iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 8:14 PM
posted by geeblock

I’m for anything that helps working class people 


The working class went to college for worthless degrees? Isn’t the loose definition of working class that they didn’t go to college?


geeblock

Member

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 8:22 PM
posted by iclfan2

The working class went to college for worthless degrees? 


Teachers? Nurses? Social workers? Yes  working class people. Why do you equate loan forgiveness automatically with a “worthless” degree? You need to stop watching Fox News 


iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 8:31 PM
posted by geeblock

Teachers? Nurses? Social workers? Yes  working class people. Why do you equate loan forgiveness automatically with a “worthless” degree? You need to stop watching Fox News 


I updated my point before you responded, that the working class means you didn’t get a degree. And the way loan forgiveness has been given out, it doesn’t mean any of what you posted. Plans that will eventually wipe out your debt for careers you choose after x length of service isn’t “loan forgiveness” (though the left tries to group it in). The world needs all sorts of jobs. If you took out a loan for yours, you should repay it (unless of a program that told you it would be wiped out eventually). What’s that have to do with Fox News? 


geeblock

Member

Sat, Jul 27, 2024 8:51 PM
posted by iclfan2

I updated my point before you responded, that the working class means you didn’t get a degree. And the way loan forgiveness has been given out, it doesn’t mean any of what you posted. Plans that will eventually wipe out your debt for careers you choose after x length of service isn’t “loan forgiveness” (though the left tries to group it in). The world needs all sorts of jobs. If you took out a loan for yours, you should repay it (unless of a program that told you it would be wiped out eventually). What’s that have to do with Fox News? 


I know a lot of teachers that were in repayment on their loans  and were paying for 20 years who just had their loans forgiven. So no I’m not talking about public worker loan forgiveness. For me working class doesn’t mean you don’t have a college degree but I guess you work for Webster. Am I allowed to say middle class? I’m for anything that helps middle class people