Is it time for private schools to have theyre own playoffs in football

• skank

  

  genghis dong;898509 wrote:Skank isn't your best defensive player from Canton?

  
  
  Idk, our top tackler was born and raised in Massillon, our leader in interceptions was born and raised in Massillon, (his dad just happens to be a Tiger great), our leader in sacks was born and raised in Massillon.
• skank

  

  Rocket08;899117 wrote:He gets the respect he deserves
  
  NONE

  
  
  What makes you think getting respect from you jokers is valuable?
• Al Bundy

  skank;902183 wrote:Are YOU that stupid? (loaded question, we all know you are), What does my realizing about the vouchers have to do with Mooney & Ursuline coaches taking FULL advantage of those vouchers? I'm quite sure taking extra liberties.

  Vouchers are determined by the state, not the coaches of Ursuline, Mooney, or any other Catholic school. Vouchers are offered to all students in a failing district. Are those ideas really that confusing to you?
  
  I am a fan of an open enrollment public school. My school can bring in kids from Youngstown (or any other district) for free. Your school certainly knows that they can bring in kids from all over for free. Your school can bring in anyone they want for free from the Youngstown district.
• skank

  

  Al Bundy;902210 wrote:Vouchers are determined by the state, not the coaches of Ursuline, Mooney, or any other Catholic school. Vouchers are offered to all students in a failing district. Are those ideas really that confusing to you?
  
  I am a fan of an open enrollment public school. My school can bring in kids from Youngstown (or any other district) for free. Your school certainly knows that they can bring in kids from all over for free. Your school can bring in anyone they want for free from the Youngstown district.

  
  
  I've said from day one I understand the voucher scam, er, I mean system, yet you have tried to explain it 10 times. I'll type slowly here....I U N D E R S T A N D. NOW, do YOU understand how the parochial school coaches are using them to their advantage? In an illegal way.
  
  
  
  Please, do not explain it again, followed by a "what is so confusing about this", comment.
• Al Bundy

  skank;902238 wrote:I've said from day one I understand the voucher scam, er, I mean system, yet you have tried to explain it 10 times. I'll type slowly here....I U N D E R S T A N D. NOW, do YOU understand how the parochial school coaches are using them to their advantage? In an illegal way.
  
  
  
  Please, do not explain it again, followed by a "what is so confusing about this", comment.

  If the parochial coaches are using them in an illegal way (which I don't think they are), then public school coaches are using open enrollment in an illegal way. The two are the exact same idea except vouchers are limited to certain districts, and open enrollment schools can allow kids to come for free from any district.
• Dean Wormer

  Al Bundy;902248 wrote:If the parochial coaches are using them in an illegal way (which I don't think they are), then public school coaches are using open enrollment in an illegal way. The two are the exact same idea except vouchers are limited to certain districts, and open enrollment schools can allow kids to come for free from any district.

  Al
  
  Don't waste your time. He doesn't understand logic, just anti-parochial bs. I would be willing to bet that both Skank and Thick spend a lot of time listening to Rush Limbaugh.
• Al Bundy

  Dean Wormer;902535 wrote:Al
  
  Don't waste your time. He doesn't understand logic, just anti-parochial bs. I would be willing to bet that both Skank and Thick spend a lot of time listening to Rush Limbaugh.

  I know, and the really ironic part about it is that I am a public school guy. In the first few rounds I normally root for the public schools from Trumbull and Mahoning County. After that, I root for whoever is left from Trumbull and Mahoning County. If Ursuline, Mooney, or Kennedy is playing a team from another part of the state, I will root for them since they are local. I think a valid argument can be made that private schools and open enrollment schools have an advantage over schools that don't have open enrollment. However, I find it laughable that the people doing the most complaining on here represent two open enrollment schools who draw players from all over the place. Massillon and Big Red both have some great fans and are great places to see a game, it's too bad that two of their fans on here present such a bigoted view.
• Dean Wormer

  Al
  
  You hit the nail on the head. Great post. Now if we could just get a hammer on a few heads we could be alright. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
• Thinthickbigred

  I am a Catholic school guy I went to catholic school and saw all the corruption that went on as far as the football team was concerned I send my kids to public school outside my district and proud to do so now .... the publics are outgunned and dont have the resources as those mighty catholic schools have .. Id stand behid the catholic schools if they did as much focusing on all the other sports and arts classes as they do football but as usual its all about MONEY
  Just kidding .. Anybody can say anything they want to get people to listen to them we have people who talk out of both sides of there mouths on here .. Atleast me and Skank dont hide. Atleast you hear what we think.
• Thinthickbigred

  Al Bundy;902669 wrote:I know, and the really ironic part about it is that I am a public school guy. In the first few rounds I normally root for the public schools from Trumbull and Mahoning County. After that, I root for whoever is left from Trumbull and Mahoning County. If Ursuline, Mooney, or Kennedy is playing a team from another part of the state, I will root for them since they are local. I think a valid argument can be made that private schools and open enrollment schools have an advantage over schools that don't have open enrollment. However, I find it laughable that the people doing the most complaining on here represent two open enrollment schools who draw players from all over the place. Massillon and Big Red both have some great fans and are great places to see a game, it's too bad that two of their fans on here present such a bigoted view.

  Im no more biggoted than you I promise ... Probably a whole lot less .. I am anti Tea Party I am anti republican BS .. I voted for Obama and will again .. I am a liberal .. Not a far left liberal but a liberal
• Al Bundy

  Thinthickbigred;903296 wrote:Im no more biggoted than you I promise ... Probably a whole lot less .. I am anti Tea Party I am anti republican BS .. I voted for Obama and will again .. I am a liberal .. Not a far left liberal but a liberal

  I really don't care what you believe politically (there is another forum for that). I don't hate schools or kids based upon their religious affiliations. I don't let a school's religious belief influence who I hope wins the game. I basically root for teams that I have connections with from my own experience, family, or friends. After that I root based upon geography. When Massillon plays the Christian school from Delaware, I hope Massillon wins. I root for the Ohio team when playing an out-of-state team. When I watch football games, I've never tried to figure out what religion the players on the team are. You have expressed anti-Catholic views for 111 pages. It's a good thing that you aren't a bigot because who knows what you would have said if that were the case :rolleyes:
• sherm03

  

  Thinthickbigred;903293 wrote:I am a Catholic school guy I went to catholic school and saw all the corruption that went on as far as the football team was concerned I send my kids to public school outside my district and proud to do so now .... the publics are outgunned and dont have the resources as those mighty catholic schools have .. Id stand behid the catholic schools if they did as much focusing on all the other sports and arts classes as they do football but as usual its all about MONEY
  Just kidding .. Anybody can say anything they want to get people to listen to them we have people who talk out of both sides of there mouths on here .. Atleast me and Skank dont hide. Atleast you hear what we think.

  Wait, now the Parochial schools just focus on football? Skank has said that Akron St. V's cheated to get Lebron into the school to play basketball. You guys have pointed out St. Ed's dominance in wrestling and said it is because they cheat. You say you don't talk out of both sides...but there it is in black and white. You guys like to say one thing, and then three days later on the thread come up with a different take that still doesn't make sense.
  
  And as for the parochial schools "not caring" about other sports or art...Mooney's speech team was one of the best in the state when I was in high school. And even still they send quite a few kids to the state tournament and nationals every single year. In case you didn't realize it, the speech team brings in $0 to the school (and actually costs the school money if the kids aren't able to do enough fund raising on their own). But Mooney still supports their speech and debate teams with great coaches, and the support of the school. And because of that, they succeed.
• genghis dong

  No it's because we get the best speech kids from all over the state.
• skank

  

  sherm03;903354 wrote:Wait, now the Parochial schools just focus on football? Skank has said that Akron St. V's cheated to get Lebron into the school to play basketball. You guys have pointed out St. Ed's dominance in wrestling and said it is because they cheat. You say you don't talk out of both sides...but there it is in black and white. You guys like to say one thing, and then three days later on the thread come up with a different take that still doesn't make sense.
  
  And as for the parochial schools "not caring" about other sports or art...Mooney's speech team was one of the best in the state when I was in high school. And even still they send quite a few kids to the state tournament and nationals every single year. In case you didn't realize it, the speech team brings in $0 to the school (and actually costs the school money if the kids aren't able to do enough fund raising on their own). But Mooney still supports their speech and debate teams with great coaches, and the support of the school. And because of that, they succeed.

  
  
  And I stand by it. I never waivered, you can say "you say this one time and then you say that another", not me buddy, I stand by what I say. Gerry Faust renting a home HE owned to the Francisco family....Was a few days before vouchers.
• Thinthickbigred

  Dont waiver Skank ... Your school and McKinley and Steubenville did a whole lot to build Ohio football. Massillon who we must play and I really truely dont want to lose to .. Ill give my back to . you catholic schools have cheated the greatest high school team out of many titles The OHSAA that is, because it is obvious you guys have friends on the board ...Its time the public schools take back .. im tired of divisions 1, 2, 3 ,4 ,5 6 all star teams. the catholic schools run everything ..Massillon and teams like that made Ohio a football power Its time we take it back
• Thinthickbigred

  Al Bundy;903335 wrote:I really don't care what you believe politically (there is another forum for that). I don't hate schools or kids based upon their religious affiliations. I don't let a school's religious belief influence who I hope wins the game. I basically root for teams that I have connections with from my own experience, family, or friends. After that I root based upon geography. When Massillon plays the Christian school from Delaware, I hope Massillon wins. I root for the Ohio team when playing an out-of-state team. When I watch football games, I've never tried to figure out what religion the players on the team are. You have expressed anti-Catholic views for 111 pages. It's a good thing that you aren't a bigot because who knows what you would have said if that were the case :rolleyes:

  I dont hate anybody Ive been to catholic church too
• Dean Wormer

  Thinthickbigred;903478 wrote:I dont hate anybody Ive been to catholic church too

  Maybe you should have payed attention while you were in Church. Where there any black people in the church the one time you went? As far as Massillon making Ohio football they do have a fine tradition but come on man that was 40 years ago. What have you done for me lately. On the other hand Steubenville has been consistantly good over many years. There is a big difference between Steubenville and Massillon.
• sherm03

  

  Thanks for ignoring my point AGAIN thinthick. Way to just pick and choose your arguments. That's one thing that can be said about skank. If he gets called out on something...SOME OF THE TIME he'll respond to it. Thinthick, you just completely ignore it when someone calls you out on something you have said.
  
  Keep picking and choosing what to respond to. I learned from the fine debate team at Mooney that it means you are losing.
• Thinthickbigred

  sherm03;903653 wrote:Thanks for ignoring my point AGAIN thinthick. Way to just pick and choose your arguments. That's one thing that can be said about skank. If he gets called out on something...SOME OF THE TIME he'll respond to it. Thinthick, you just completely ignore it when someone calls you out on something you have said.
  
  Keep picking and choosing what to respond to. I learned from the fine debate team at Mooney that it means you are losing.

  I dont read it everyday I have to catch up on it
• skank

  

  How do vouchers, and targeting kids from surrounding areas with letters, tie together?
• aged jock

  skank;905364 wrote:How do vouchers, and targeting kids from surrounding areas with letters, tie together?

  Every month or so I get a multi-page newsletter from my public school district. It has complete sports updates, along with who's going to play where in college, articles on how great the schools are, etc., etc. There's absolutely nothing wrong with letters to kids in surrounding areas, no matter who does it.
  
  Vouchers are government's alternatives to miserable school districts. Would you condemn a promising kid to a 4th grade reading and math level? They are not granted based on athletics.
  
  Whatever you keep smoking, it's not working on anyone else. Recruiting kids to a school is always wrong in your eyes, except when public schools do it, and then it's all the private school's fault. You blame others for imagined hurts to explain your side's failures more than our president, and that's a lot.
• Darkon

  

  aged jock;906112 wrote:Every month or so I get a multi-page newsletter from my public school district. It has complete sports updates, along with who's going to play where in college, articles on how great the schools are, etc., etc. There's absolutely nothing wrong with letters to kids in surrounding areas, no matter who does it.
  
  Vouchers are government's alternatives to miserable school districts. Would you condemn a promising kid to a 4th grade reading and math level? They are not granted based on athletics.
  
  Whatever you keep smoking, it's not working on anyone else. Recruiting kids to a school is always wrong in your eyes, except when public schools do it, and then it's all the private school's fault. You blame others for imagined hurts to explain your side's failures more than our president, and that's a lot.

  Why can't anyone see this is not right. Recruit them for academics and provide them with more opportunity. I have no problem with. For athletics, than these schools are only trying to profit from a KID.
• Al Bundy

  It's amazing that some schools (public or private) have to provide info. I guess not everyone can be like Massillon where the kids just somehow show up there.
  
  They'll come to Massillon for reasons they can't even fathom. They'll turn up your driveway, not knowing for sure why they're doing it. They'll arrive at your door as innocent as children, longing for the past. "Of course, we won't mind if you have a look around," you'll say.
• rmolin73

  

  This is shown on BCSN in Toledo.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OPNoGYUEPA
• skank

  

  aged jock;906112 wrote:Every month or so I get a multi-page newsletter from my public school district. It has complete sports updates, along with who's going to play where in college, articles on how great the schools are, etc., etc. There's absolutely nothing wrong with letters to kids in surrounding areas, no matter who does it.
  
  Vouchers are government's alternatives to miserable school districts. Would you condemn a promising kid to a 4th grade reading and math level? They are not granted based on athletics.
  
  Whatever you keep smoking, it's not working on anyone else. Recruiting kids to a school is always wrong in your eyes, except when public schools do it, and then it's all the private school's fault. You blame others for imagined hurts to explain your side's failures more than our president, and that's a lot.

  
  
  Don't try and play this off as the same, these newsletters are harmless and you know it. After all, how much athletic eligibility do YOU have left? And they are decidedly different than "TARGETING" athletes.