Week 2 - Browns @ Ratbirds

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  Or maybe they do practice, like everyone else, and still aren't just good enough "to close out games "
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  like_that;1871389 wrote:I am sure they do, but they sure as hell haven't executed it that well the last 10+ years.

  No no. They just haven't learned it yet.
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  kizer permanente;1871390 wrote:Or maybe they do practice, like everyone else, and still aren't just good enough "to close out games "

  Yeah but we closed out games against SB winning Saints and SB winning Patriots in back to back weeks back in 2010.
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  like_that;1871389 wrote:I am sure they do, but they sure as hell haven't executed it that well the last 10+ years.

  I wonder why that is. Have had a good teacher I guess. Still need to learn it
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  kizer permanente;1871390 wrote:Or maybe they do practice, like everyone else, and still aren't just good enough "to close out games "

  I acknowledge your point, my issue is you're making it black and white. If good/talented enough was all it took to close out games we wouldn't see shitty teams defeating far superior teams in the NFL. It happens all of the time. There are a lot of variables that play into closing out a game.
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  like_that;1871395 wrote:I acknowledge your point, my issue is you're making it black and white. If good/talented enough was all it took to close out games we wouldn't see shitty teams defeating far superior teams in the NFL. It happens all of the time. There are a lot of variables that play into closing out a game.

  It's not black and white and it's equally stupid of me to present it as that, but you can't "learn to close it out". That's my whole issue.
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  kizer permanente;1871396 wrote:It's not black and white and it's equally stupid of me to present it as that, but you can't "learn to close it out". That's my whole issue.

  It happens in the NFL all of the time. A young talented (ooo i threw out your buzz word!!!) team plays in a bunch of close games and loses in one season. The following year they start to win more of those games. Having the game time experience provides those learning lessons. Yes, teams can learn how to close out games. Every up and coming franchise has done it.
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  They need to get better to win consistently. They're getting better. Hopefully they continue to get better next year and the year after that and so on and so forth. That's how they'll magically "learn to close out games". By ability.
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  kizer permanente;1871398 wrote:They need to get better to win consistently. They're getting better. Hopefully they continue to get bettee next year and they year after that and so on and so forth. That's how they'll magically "learn to close out games". By ability.

  Learning how to close out games is getting better.
  
  And you tried to call BR out for playing semantics. LOL.
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  like_that;1871399 wrote:Learning how to close out games is getting better.
  
  And you tried to call BR out for playing semantics. LOL.

  SMH, I think he sees his fail, but refuses to admit it. Nice fail "kaizer".
  
  I suggest we just move on.
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  like_that;1871399 wrote:Learning how to close out games is getting better.
  
  And you tried to call BR out for playing semantics. LOL.

  No they're getting better by adding better players. They aren't learning shit. I'm sorry you can't understand this.
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  Commander of Awesome;1871401 wrote:SMH, I think he sees his fail, but refuses to admit it. Nice fail "kaizer".
  
  I suggest we just move on.

  I think you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. But whatever
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  kizer permanente;1871404 wrote:I think you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. But whatever

  oh? Elaborate please.
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  Commander of Awesome;1871405 wrote:oh? Elaborate please.

  You're taking the side that Cleveland will get better by learning how to close out games and not by adding better players. It needs no elaboration, really.
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  kizer permanente;1871406 wrote:You're taking the side that Cleveland will get better by learning how to close out games and not by adding better players. It needs no elaboration, really.

  lol, just lol
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  Commander of Awesome;1871407 wrote:lol, just lol

  "You're right. I got nothing. "
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  kizer permanente;1871409 wrote:"You're right. I got nothing. "

  Got a link to me saying we don't need talent to win lil guy?
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  Commander of Awesome;1871410 wrote:Got a link to me saying we don't need talent to win lil guy?

  I'm not even sure you know what you're arguing at this point.
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  kizer permanente;1871411 wrote:I'm not even sure you know what you're arguing at this point.

  kizer permanente;1871411 wrote:I'm not even sure you know what you're arguing at this point.

  Edited for accuracy.
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  like_that;1871412 wrote:Edited for accuracy.

  LLOOOOOLLLLL
  
  IIT kizer permanente wears his ass for a hat.
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  like_that;1871412 wrote:Edited for accuracy.

  Sure.

  like_that;1871412 wrote:Edited for accuracy.

  Ok. I'll wait for your explanation of how Browns are going to learn to close out games.
  Hint: their "learning to close out games" comes magically when they add better players and get more talented. It's a made up phrase.
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  kizer permanente;1871415 wrote:Sure.
  Ok. I'll wait for your explanation of how Browns are going to learn to close out games.
  Hint: their "learning to close out games" comes magically when they add better players and get more talented. It's a made up phrase.

  I'll wait for you to explain how you factored the Browns have 11 winnable games on their schedule.
  
  Surely, you don't think the Browns are better or more talented than those 11 teams. If so, then you are obviously an idiot. If not, what variables did you factor in when determining they have a chance in 11 games? I'll give you time, so you can try to make sure your spin machine doesn't contradict your current logic.
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  like_that;1871418 wrote:I'll wait for you to explain how you factored the Browns have 11 winnable games on their schedule.
  
  Surely, you don't think the Browns are better or more talented than those 11 teams. If so, then you are obviously an idiot. If not, what variables did you factor in when determining they have a chance in 11 games. I'll give you time, so your spin machine doesn't contradict your current logic.

  I've already explained that to you previously. Please review earlier comments.
  
  Short version. We're better this year and play a lot of bad teams.
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  kizer permanente;1871419 wrote:I've already explained that to you previously. Please review earlier comments.
  
  Short version. We're better this year and play a lot of bad teams.

  So then we are better than 11 teams? Got it. Please refer to where I said you are obviously an idiot.
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  We lost by 3 the the best team on our schedule. Do you need me to break that down for you too?