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2017 Browns Off-Season Thread

  • KnightRyder
    SportsAndLady;1850964 wrote:Yeah I was going to say, it didn't seem to me that ND ran a spread offense. Fucking knight ryder is such an idiotic troll.
    if it didnt seem to you that ND ran a spread , then football isnt your strong suit
  • like_that
    KnightRyder;1850977 wrote:if it didnt seem to you that ND ran a spread , then football isnt your strong suit
    Except every pundit has said Kizer played in a NFL offense, but please tell us more about your expertise.
  • KnightRyder
    like_that;1850980 wrote:Except every pundit has said Kizer played in a NFL offense, but please tell us more about your expertise.
    every pundit said Brady Quinn would be a star
  • Crimson streak
    KnightRyder;1850974 wrote:yea i can tell by all the NFL ready qb's ND produced. Kizer was crap in college and you all think he will transform into some sort of super star qb under Hue's guidance. God himself couldnt make this guy a quality NFL qb.
    The qb's at ND under Brian Kelly
    Tommy Rees
    Everett Golson
    Malik Zaire
    Kizer

    Only Kizer had an ability of NFL talent in that bunch. Try again dishit. And Kizer wasn't a bad college qb at all. In 2015 he was very very good. Last year the whole team had issues. Young receivers, terrible coaching, very bad defense. Kizer was not ND's problem last year


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  • KnightRyder
    Crimson streak;1850983 wrote:The qb's at ND under Brian Kelly
    Tommy Rees
    Everett Golson
    Malik Zaire
    Kizer

    Only Kizer had an ability of NFL talent in that bunch. Try again dishit. And Kizer wasn't a bad college qb at all. In 2015 he was very very good. Last year the whole team had issues. Young receivers, terrible coaching, very bad defense. Kizer was not ND's problem last year


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    Kizer was flat out dog shit
  • like_that
    KnightRyder;1850982 wrote:every pundit said Brady Quinn would be a star
    1. No, no they didn't.

    2. Completely different coaching staff.

    3. Nobody here is going all in on a late 2nd round QB being a franchise star dumbass. The argument here is you said he didn't play in a pro style offense, however you are 100% wrong.

    Now go off and disappear again for about another 4 months.
  • Commander of Awesome
    lol at knight ryder.

    @BR - Kizer needs to fix his accuracy issues to be a day 1 starter IMO. He has the physical tools, needs to fix that first.
  • vball10set
    KnightRyder;1850976 wrote:still salty about getting waxed by clemson?

    nah, I'm over it...unlike you and your Noles, I've got 2017 to look forward to
  • Sonofanump
  • vball10set
    Sonofanump;1851001 wrote:
    good advice--thanks for the reminder
  • sleeper
    I have extremely low expectations for Kizer. I do not think he is an NFL QB.
  • Crimson streak
    KnightRyder;1850984 wrote:Kizer was flat out dog shit
    26 td's to 9 int while that's not great it was far from dog shit. What was dog shit was the coaching staff and the defense. ND just simply wasn't a good team last year. Perfect example was Brian Kelly trying to throw 40 times during a fucking hurricane. And then benched Kizer the game after that bc Kelly is too much of a dumb fuck to admit he screwed up.


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  • Crimson streak
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000805453/article/the-cleveland-show-inside-look-at-how-browns-draft-unfolded
    Pretty good article on the browns draft. I love the quotes from Greg Williams lol


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  • KnightRyder
    vball10set;1851000 wrote:nah, I'm over it...unlike you and your Noles, I've got 2017 to look forward to
    do you mean the noles that are 3-0 vs your buckeyes? i dont recall the noles getting blanked by clemson
  • KnightRyder
    like_that;1850985 wrote:1. No, no they didn't.

    2. Completely different coaching staff.

    3. Nobody here is going all in on a late 2nd round QB being a franchise star dumbass. The argument here is you said he didn't play in a pro style offense, however you are 100% wrong.

    Now go off and disappear again for about another 4 months.
    ND's offense was a far cry from a pro style offense, that makes you 100 percent stupid
  • BR1986FB
    Crimson streak;1851022 wrote:http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000805453/article/the-cleveland-show-inside-look-at-how-browns-draft-unfolded
    Pretty good article on the browns draft. I love the quotes from Greg Williams lol


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    Love the part about Bruce Smith. Would be great to have a guy like him mentoring Garrett.
  • vball10set
    KnightRyder;1851050 wrote:do you mean the noles that are 3-0 vs your buckeyes? i dont recall the noles getting blanked by clemson
    No, I mean the Noles that were crushed 59-20 by Oregon, who were then beaten up by 'my' Buckeyes in the NC...and if memory serves, the last time THE OSU played FSU was 1998, correct? way to stay current, troll
  • vball10set
    KnightRyder;1851050 wrote:do you mean the noles that are 3-0 vs your buckeyes? i dont recall the noles getting blanked by clemson
    http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?48435-2017-Browns-Off-Season-Thread&p=1851001&viewfull=1#post1851001
  • SportsAndLady
    Mcshay had a way too early mock draft. He had the Browns picking 1 overall again and 4 overall with Houston's pick. No clue why he thinks Houston is going to have that bad of a record, but okay.

    Has Cleveland taking Darnold at 1, and Christian Wilkins from Clemson.

    Talk about awesomeness.
  • like_that
    SportsAndLady;1851501 wrote:Mcshay had a way too early mock draft. He had the Browns picking 1 overall again and 4 overall with Houston's pick. No clue why he thinks Houston is going to have that bad of a record, but okay.

    Has Cleveland taking Darnold at 1, and Christian Wilkins from Clemson.

    Talk about awesomeness.
    I would lol to the bank if that happened. Highly doubt Houston is the 4th overall pick though.
  • SportsAndLady
    like_that;1851507 wrote:I would lol to the bank if that happened. Highly doubt Houston is the 4th overall pick though.
    Yeah didn't get that. Until I saw he was just going on Vegas odds. Which makes me wonder why vegas is so low on Houston
  • Benny The Jet
    SportsAndLady;1851509 wrote:Yeah didn't get that. Until I saw he was just going on Vegas odds. Which makes me wonder why vegas is so low on Houston
    That's weird. I mean, Watson has to be an upgrade over Osweiler and Savage right?
  • iclfan2
    I don't think Watson will be an upgrade over Osweiler this current year. I'll save my Texans hot take for later though after my Wentz/Philly prediction (still think he won't be that good tho)


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  • Laley23
    Watson is worse than Wentz, imo.

    Not sure he takes a team to much more than 5 or so wins. People acting like because the rest of the team is good, and he won in college, that Houston is a SB contender.
  • SportsAndLady
    We don't know who's worse yet lol ones a rookie and ones a second year player. Going to be at least another 3 years to make that call.

    I'll say this, we all liked the wheeling and dealing we did with the Eagles, but I'm still saying I'd much rather be in their QB position than ours.