2017 Browns Off-Season Thread

• Crimson streak

  

  SportsAndLady;1849821 wrote:Everyone keeps talking about the Jets trading out of the 6th pick with Cleveland so that Cleveland can get Trubisky. I just don't see it. The jets qbs are awful. If they have the best available QB available to them, I think they take him.
  
  Hoping the browns just take garrett and BPA at 12, call it a day.

  I'm kinda hoping the allegations against Conley make him drop and we can scoop him up in the 2nd or 3rd round. If we can get Garrett, hooker/Adams and Conley I would be freaking ecstatic
  
  
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• BR1986FB

  SportsAndLady;1849821 wrote:Everyone keeps talking about the Jets trading out of the 6th pick with Cleveland so that Cleveland can get Trubisky. I just don't see it. The jets qbs are awful. If they have the best available QB available to them, I think they take him.
  
  Hoping the browns just take garrett and BPA at 12, call it a day.

  This morning, Schefter reported that the Titans had a few "offers" from teams to move up to #5. With the way these guys are supposedly all about "analytics" (if the Browns are one of these teams who made an offer to TENN) it wouldn't surprise me if Trubisky (small sample size = anti-analytics) were not the target and they were trading up for someone like Adams or Hooker. Keeps my dream of Garoppolo for 2nd rounders alive.
• Benny The Jet

  

  Crimson streak;1849823 wrote:I'm kinda hoping the allegations against Conley make him drop and we can scoop him up in the 2nd or 3rd round. If we can get Garrett, hooker/Adams and Conley I would be freaking ecstatic
  
  
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  Once again, I agree 100% on this. If we were to walk away with Garrett, Hooker...let alone Conley too. That'd be phenominal.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Kiper reporting the browns are leaning towards drafting Trubisky at #1.
  
  We shall see. But I'm still saying this is bullshit that's been put out there by the Browns.
• like_that

  

  SportsAndLady;1849877 wrote:Kiper reporting the browns are leaning towards drafting Trubisky at #1.
  
  We shall see. But I'm still saying this is bullshit that's been put out there by the Browns.

  Me too, but wouldn't shock me to see them fuck up another draft.
• BR1986FB

  SportsAndLady;1849877 wrote:Kiper reporting the browns are leaning towards drafting Trubisky at #1.
  
  We shall see. But I'm still saying this is bullshit that's been put out there by the Browns.

  I'm calling bullshit on this unless Haslam's making the call. In fact, I don't think they will use a 1st rounder on a QB.
  
  Think about this, if Carson Wentz were in this draft, where would he be projected? Likely as the top QB. They passed on Wentz last year at #2 and they're going to take a lesser QB with the top pick this year? Makes no sense.
  
  Besides, as has been mentioned, if this regime is truly about analytics, 13 games is way too small of a sample size to track their metrics.
• slingshot4ever

  No way is Hooker or Adams dropping to 12...pipe dream
• Benny The Jet

  

  slingshot4ever;1849881 wrote:No way is Hooker or Adams dropping to 12...pipe dream

  Absolutely...you'd have to move to 5-6 I'd imagine. I'd rather make that move for Hooker instead of for Mitchell. I can't trust anyone who demands to be called Mitchell.
• iclfan2

  

  SportsAndLady;1849877 wrote:Kiper reporting the browns are leaning towards drafting Trubisky at #1.
  
  We shall see. But I'm still saying this is bullshit that's been put out there by the Browns.

  If that's the case, and it comes from the top, I hope someone internally has the balls to quit and say it was Haslam.
  
  I still don't buy anyone but Garrett at 1.
• BR1986FB

  iclfan2;1849887 wrote: I hope someone internally has the balls to quit and say it was Haslam.

  I doubt that would happen because it's likely career suicide. I'm still waiting to hear from Ray Farmer as to whether the Manziel pick was really his call or Haslam's. Crickets....
• vball10set

  Benny The Jet;1849882 wrote:Absolutely...you'd have to move to 5-6 I'd imagine. I'd rather make that move for Hooker instead of for Mitchell. I can't trust anyone who demands to be called Mitchell.

  lol..well played
• BR1986FB

  Sounds like there are several eyewitnesses that say Conley neither touched the girl or had sex with her.
• Pick6

  

  BR1986FB;1849898 wrote:Sounds like there are several eyewitnesses that say Conley neither touched the girl or had sex with her.

  Time will tell. A rape kit was used. The story for each side basically couldn't be farther from each other. The kit should have the answer....
• Pick6

  

  
• BR1986FB

  Mike Silver (the guy who is supposedly close to Hue Jackson) has said that Sashi Brown told him that the Browns have known who they were going to take for "the last 2 weeks." Pretty confident it will be Garrett.
• Classyposter58

  

  iclfan2;1849887 wrote:If that's the case, and it comes from the top, I hope someone internally has the balls to quit and say it was Haslam.
  
  I still don't buy anyone but Garrett at 1.

  He seems like the next Dion Jordan with bust written all over him. Honestly if you don't trade down take Malik, dude is probably the next Ed Reed
• like_that

  

  Classyposter58;1849922 wrote:He seems like the next Dion Jordan with bust written all over him. Honestly if you don't trade down take Malik, dude is probably the next Ed Reed

  Honestly though?
• BR1986FB

  I'm not totally sold on Garrett but Dion Jordan?
• Crimson streak

  

  Classyposter58;1849922 wrote:He seems like the next Dion Jordan with bust written all over him. Honestly if you don't trade down take Malik, dude is probably the next Ed Reed

  The problem with this is Garrett is way stronger and bigger and has a better work ethic than dion Jordan had. Jordan was drafted high basically bc he was athletic. They aren't even close to be similar
  
  
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• Crimson streak

  

  Also could all this Mitch at number 1 talk becoming from the browns to get the pats to lower there asking price for garopollo?
  
  
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• Laley23

  

  I've managed to avoid almost ALL draft talk until today.
  
  Decided to read through this last few pages on this thread to catch up on rumors I missed. Goodness it was good to be tuned out. The amount of dumb stuff and awful mocks and everything is so over the top and every year we are shown how inaccurate it was. Don't we understand by now teams play games in the media, Kiper tries to get his guys to be vaulted up boards etc. Why pay ANY attention until Draft Day?
• Crimson streak

  

  Laley23;1849939 wrote:I've managed to avoid almost ALL draft talk until today.
  
  Decided to read through this last few pages on this thread to catch up on rumors I missed. Goodness it was good to be tuned out. The amount of dumb stuff and awful mocks and everything is so over the top and every year we are shown how inaccurate it was. Don't we understand by now teams play games in the media, Kiper tries to get his guys to be vaulted up boards etc. Why pay ANY attention until Draft Day?

  Exactly. I'd be shocked if Garrett isn't the number 1 pick. If he isn't then it has haslam written all over it and if that's the case it doesn't matter bc the browns will never be good if he's dictating player personnel.
  
  
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• Heretic

  

  Laley23;1849939 wrote:I've managed to avoid almost ALL draft talk until today.
  
  Decided to read through this last few pages on this thread to catch up on rumors I missed. Goodness it was good to be tuned out. The amount of dumb stuff and awful mocks and everything is so over the top and every year we are shown how inaccurate it was. Don't we understand by now teams play games in the media, Kiper tries to get his guys to be vaulted up boards etc. Why pay ANY attention until Draft Day?

  
  That's pretty much what I do. Pay no attention to draft stuff until draft day, go to my one friend's draft party and do so many shots that I need to look up who went first, who my team picked and so on on Friday.
• Ironman92

  

  Gonna take Garrett at 1 but won't be surprised if they trade up to about 5 to get Trubisky
• SportsAndLady

  

  Heretic;1849984 wrote:That's pretty much what I do. Pay no attention to draft stuff until draft day, go to my one friend's draft party and do so many shots that I need to look up who went first, who my team picked and so on on Friday.

  Since the draft is 3 days now, I can only assume you black out all 3 days, right?