2017 Browns Off-Season Thread

• SportsAndLady

  

  Looks like we'll hear back on josh Gordon in may. He applied for reinstatement earlier this month and the league said they'll have a decision by may.
• Heretic

  

  SportsAndLady;1843726 wrote:Looks like we'll hear back on josh Gordon in may. He applied for reinstatement earlier this month and the league said they'll have a decision by may.

  By now, with all the time he's missed, does Gordon still have any noticeable football skills? Like, I'd expect him to have the raw athleticism (or at least regain it after a hard period of working out), but the things like route running and the instincts and stuff like that. With being out of the league for as long has he has, that stuff would have had to erode significantly, wouldn't it?
• BR1986FB

  Heretic;1843727 wrote:By now, with all the time he's missed, does Gordon still have any noticeable football skills? Like, I'd expect him to have the raw athleticism (or at least regain it after a hard period of working out), but the things like route running and the instincts and stuff like that. With being out of the league for as long has he has, that stuff would have had to erode significantly, wouldn't it?

  He looked pretty solid in preseason games last year....at least on deep balls. At this point, I'd think that if he ever gets reinstated they might just release him. If you'd see some of the stuff this guy posts on Twitter, he's still an immature clown.
• BR1986FB

  SportsAndLady;1843726 wrote:Looks like we'll hear back on josh Gordon in may. He applied for reinstatement earlier this month and the league said they'll have a decision by may.

  Not that I think Gordon's in their long term plans but this is typical Roger Goodell, waiting until AFTER the draft to make this decision.
• queencitybuckeye

  BR1986FB;1843732 wrote:Not that I think Gordon's in their long term plans but this is typical Roger Goodell, waiting until AFTER the draft to make this decision.

  True, but I'm not sure it has that much impact. If the Browns need a receiver, I don't, at this point, adjust my plans at all based on whether Josh Gordon might be available.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  BR1986FB;1843731 wrote:He looked pretty solid in preseason games last year....at least on deep balls. At this point, I'd think that if he ever gets reinstated they might just release him. If you'd see some of the stuff this guy posts on Twitter, he's still an immature clown.

  Why? We lack WRs and Playmakers.
• SportsAndLady

  

  I've heard for years "the browns just might release Gordon!"
  
  FFS, he's not being released. He's either going to get it together with the browns or continue to be a fuckup not playing in the NFL.
• like_that

  

  SportsAndLady;1843756 wrote:I've heard for years "the browns just might release Gordon!"
  
  FFS, he's not being released. He's either going to get it together with the browns or continue to be a fuckup not playing in the NFL.

  Exactly, it's a no lose situation at this point. It would be dumb to just straight up release him.
• like_that

  

  http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19011238/colin-kaepernick-viewed-distraction-joe-thomas-cleveland-browns-says
  
  JT is speaking from experience after dealing with Manziel. Not worth the headache for a guy who sucks ass. If you bring headaches, you better be good, because that is the only way a team will put up with you. There is a reason why Greg Hardy was still signed to a contract.
  
  Anyway, I am not suggesting this for the Browns, but I am surprised it has been quiet for Jay Cutler's free agency. I figured we would at least hear some rumors on where he will end up.
• bases_loaded

  

  Albright says everyone is waiting for the Romo domino to fall, once that happens guys like Cutler, Kap, and Fitzpatrick will be signed.
• Crimson streak

  

  http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/3/27/15076622/josh-gordon-appears-to-be-in-extraordinary-shape
  
  Too bad he's a fucking retard
  
  
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• Commander of Awesome

  

  http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/NFL-meeting-notes-no-leap-year-good-news-on-Ced-a-vote-for-Barnett/0662f5dc-59e9-4f83-bee5-f19d1654e293Bengals are floating the idea of 9 and AJ McCarron for Browns 12 and 33
  
  Thoughts?
• Al Bundy

  Commander of Awesome;1844388 wrote:http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/NFL-meeting-notes-no-leap-year-good-news-on-Ced-a-vote-for-Barnett/0662f5dc-59e9-4f83-bee5-f19d1654e293Bengals are floating the idea of 9 and AJ McCarron for Browns 12 and 33
  
  Thoughts?

  I don't like McCarron anyway, but that is a lot to give up for him. In terms of draft chart points, that would basically put the value of mid-second round pick on McCarron depending upon whose chart value is used.
• Benny The Jet

  

  There's no way I'd value AJ as #1 in rd 2 pick. The only thing I like would be the moving up part. Hooker please.
• Crimson streak

  

  Commander of Awesome;1844388 wrote:http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/NFL-meeting-notes-no-leap-year-good-news-on-Ced-a-vote-for-Barnett/0662f5dc-59e9-4f83-bee5-f19d1654e293Bengals are floating the idea of 9 and AJ McCarron for Browns 12 and 33
  
  Thoughts?

  Fuck no mccarron sucks. I'd rather have Kessler
  
  
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• SportsAndLady

  

  Yeah no thanks on mccaron
• BR1986FB

  Crimson streak;1844382 wrote:http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/3/27/15076622/josh-gordon-appears-to-be-in-extraordinary-shape
  
  Too bad he's a fucking retard
  
  
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  "Who gon' stop me? Probably a joint.
  
  And no thanks on McCarron. Especially at that price.
• BR1986FB

  I know he's pretty much the consensus #1 overall pick, and I'd still take him there, but is anyone else not totally sold on Myles Garrett?
• like_that

  

  BR1986FB;1844591 wrote:I know he's pretty much the consensus #1 overall pick, and I'd still take him there, but is anyone else not totally sold on Myles Garrett?

  Nope, are you implying you aren't sold?
• SportsAndLady

  

  I'm sold on Garrett. Guy is gonna be good. May take a year or two but hes going to be a good player.
• BR1986FB

  like_that;1844598 wrote:Nope, are you implying you aren't sold?

  Look, I know the dude's an athletic freak and he may have just been taking this past season off to try to stay healthy for the draft, but his 2016 stats don't jump out at me. 4.5 of his 8.5 sacks were against UT San Antonio. Granted, he did have a very good sophomore year. I just don't think he's the "sure thing/lock" that the consensus seems to think. Just hoping he's not another Courtney Brown.
  
  I'm not saying don't take him at #1, but I have my concerns.
• SportsAndLady

  

  BR1986FB;1844604 wrote:Look, I know the dude's an athletic freak and he may have just been taking this past season off to try to stay healthy for the draft, but his 2016 stats don't jump out at me. 4.5 of his 8.5 sacks were against UT San Antonio. Granted, he did have a very good sophomore year. I just don't think he's the "sure thing/lock" that the consensus seems to think. Just hoping he's not another Courtney Brown.
  
  I'm not saying don't take him at #1, but I have my concerns.

  There's concerns with every player in the draft. You don't draft lock's with the first overall pick, you draft the guy with the least amount of chance to bust. That's garrett.
• BR1986FB

  SportsAndLady;1844607 wrote:There's concerns with every player in the draft. You don't draft lock's with the first overall pick, you draft the guy with the least amount of chance to bust. That's garrett.

  Seemed like everyone thought Andrew Luck was a "lock" and he's regressed to the mean with injuries and fantasy football drafting by those clowns in the Colts front office. I mean he's good but he's not the superstar everyone thought he'd be. He started off fast and has tapered off.
  
  I agree that Garrett is probably the least likely to bust though.
• SportsAndLady

  

  BR1986FB;1844615 wrote:Seemed like everyone thought Andrew Luck was a "lock" and he's regressed to the mean with injuries and fantasy football drafting by those clowns in the Colts front office. I mean he's good but he's not the superstar everyone thought he'd be. He started off fast and has tapered off.
  
  I agree that Garrett is probably the least likely to bust though.

  Luck actually had a decent year. If he had an O-line worth a damn, he'd be a top 3 NFL QB.
• cat_lover

  Sold on Garrett at #1. No to McCarron at that asking price and no to McCarron in any case.