2017 NFL Off-Season Chatter

• superman

  SportsAndLady;1838997 wrote:Question..is Drew Brees an alltime great QB? Is he a top 5 QB? Top 10? Outside of the top 10?

  I'd go top 10.
  
  In other news, Vikings decline $17 million option on AD.
• SportsAndLady

  

  sleeper;1838999 wrote:What?
  
  Easily top 3. I'd only put Brady and Peyton ahead of him. No question he's a top 5 QB all-time.

  For as much emphasis as you put on winning, I'm surprised by your answer.
• sleeper

  

  SportsAndLady;1839003 wrote:For as much emphasis as you put on winning, I'm surprised by your answer.

  He won a Super Bowl and a Super Bowl MVP. That on top of his stats as a QB, he's easily the 3rd best QB ever.
• SportsAndLady

  

  sleeper;1839004 wrote:He won a Super Bowl and a Super Bowl MVP. That on top of his stats as a QB, he's easily the 3rd best QB ever.

  Half his 15 seasons he's been .500 or worse.
  
  I'd put him around 8-10'ish all time qbs.
• sleeper

  

  SportsAndLady;1839005 wrote:Half his 15 seasons he's been .500 or worse.
  
  I'd put him around 8-10'ish all time qbs.

  Because his teams have been garbage.
• SportsAndLady

  

  I'm not here to argue, just curious what everyone's thoughts were on that.
  
  Friend of mine is a big Purdue guy and is dead set on him being top 5 QB all time. I was thinking more like top 10 but it's for sure been an interesting debate.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  1. Otto
  2. Brady
  3. Peyton
  4. Farve
  5. Marino
  6. Rodgers
  7. Elway
  8. Montana
  9. Unitas
  10. Tarkerton
  11. Steve Young
  
  11 players I thought of off the top of my head that'd I'd have above Brees.
• Azubuike24

  

  Drew Brees isn't a top 3 QB of all-time. C'mon. He's not even top 3 in the 2000's. Manning, Brady and Rodgers are all better.
• Azubuike24

  

  At the same time, Brees is basically Marino, but won a ring.
• Laley23

  

  Throw stats out, because eras and all. He is 3rd best in this era behind Brady/Peyton. Hard to make a case for top 5 at that point.
  
  Elway
  Montana
  Marino
  Favre
  Tarkenton
  Graham
  Unitas
  
  Those guys were all at the top of their eras. I'd go top 10, but not not 5. If I went into really deep digging, he may even fall just outside the top 10.
• Azubuike24

  

  Brees over Rodgers? I just can't see how. Unless you penalize Rodgers because he hasn't played as long. Rodgers with a career 104.1 rating, which is ridiculous, 297 career TD and 72 INT. Brees is at 96.3 with 465 TD and 230 INT.
• Ironman92

  

  To me Brees is in the pack of Marino, Fouts and Moon...somewhere in the top 10 but not top 5
  
  1. Brady
  2. Elway
  3. Manning
  4. Montana
  5. Favre
  6. Steve Young
  
  Rodgers jumping into the top 10 as his career continues on.
  
  Looks like Brees is as high as #8 for me but not lower than 10.
• Laley23

  

  Azubuike24;1839020 wrote:Brees over Rodgers? I just can't see how. Unless you penalize Rodgers because he hasn't played as long. Rodgers with a career 104.1 rating, which is ridiculous, 297 career TD and 72 INT. Brees is at 96.3 with 465 TD and 230 INT.

  Maybe wrong, but I put Rodgers in the era after those 3. Rodgers will end up ahead of Brees no doubt, but not yet. My list after that was just guys before him that may or may not be ahead of him.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Ironman92;1839021 wrote:To me Brees is in the pack of Marino, Fouts and Moon...somewhere in the top 10 but not top 5
  
  1. Brady
  2. Elway
  3. Manning
  4. Montana
  5. Favre
  6. Steve Young
  
  Rodgers jumping into the top 10 as his career continues on.
  
  Looks like Brees is as high as #8 for me but not lower than 10.

  you're missing Otto Graham.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Azubuike24;1839014 wrote:At the same time, Brees is basically Marino, but won a ring.

  So did Trent Dilfer.
• Iliketurtles

  

  I'd have Brees somewhere in the 7-10 range.
• Ironman92

  

  Commander of Awesome;1839026 wrote:you're missing Otto Graham.

  Fuck that palindrome'd named SOB
• sleeper

  

  Commander of Awesome;1839026 wrote:you're missing Otto Graham.

  Just stop. No one even knows who this is.
• sleeper

  

  Laley23;1839015 wrote:Throw stats out, because eras and all. He is 3rd best in this era behind Brady/Peyton. Hard to make a case for top 5 at that point.
  
  Elway
  Montana
  Marino
  Favre
  Tarkenton
  Graham
  Unitas
  
  Those guys were all at the top of their eras. I'd go top 10, but not not 5. If I went into really deep digging, he may even fall just outside the top 10.

  Ah, so throw out all the objective stats and be subjective.
  
  Close it up boys.
• like_that

  

  sleeper;1839037 wrote:Just stop. No one even knows who this is.

  Sleeper the NFL/Browns "fan" ladies and gentlemen. Brees is a HOF QB, but he does not sniff the top 5, let alone top 3.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  sleeper;1839037 wrote:Just stop. No one even knows who this is.

  Idiot post of the week
• SportsAndLady

  

  No one knows who Otto graham is? Lol sleeper is a fucking moron.
• Azubuike24

  

  Rodgers and Brees will both probably end up playing in the league during a 15-year span together. How are they not in the same era?
• Ironman92

  

  Otto played for about a decade and won about every game those years. His first 3-5 years was the AAFC which had about 7 teams in the entire league. The last 4-6 years was NFL which had 12 most of the 50's I believe.
  
  Pretty sure some of his championships they defeated the New York Yankees lol.
  
  Otto = Top 26
• Ironman92

  

  Azubuike24;1839050 wrote:Rodgers and Brees will both probably end up playing in the league during a 15-year span together. How are they not in the same era?

  Pretty much same era but Brees had over 20,000 yards passing and 125 TD passes before Rodgers started a game.