2016-17 NBA Thread
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sleeper
And people laughed when I said I wouldn't trade KI for Curry in 2014. Still wouldn't.Commander of Awesome;1831609 wrote:More like LOLVP amirite?
Stephen Curry 16-17 3-PT:
Oct: 4.0-9.3 - 42.9%
Nov: 4.2-10.0 - 42.0%
Dec: 3.2-8.4 - 37.8%
Jan: 4.0-11.0 - 36.4% -
Ironman92
I know it's meaningless but I feel your top 10 might be interestingsleeper;1831617 wrote:And people laughed when I said I wouldn't trade KI for Curry in 2014. Still wouldn't. -
Commander of Awesome
That would be good for a lol. I'd be surprised if he can even name 10 players.Ironman92;1831626 wrote:I know it's meaningless but I feel your top 10 might be interesting -
sleeper
1. Lebron JamesIronman92;1831626 wrote:I know it's meaningless but I feel your top 10 might be interesting
2. Russell Westbrook
3. Kevin Durant
4. Kyrie Irving
5. Stephen Curry
6. DeMarcus Cousins
7. Giannis Antetokounmpo
8. Kawhi Leonard
9. Anthony Davis
10. Kevin Love
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26. James Harden -
Ironman92
Well fuck. Moderately liked your top 10 but like a true pro that you are I'm now interested as fuck for your 11-25 (even though I know they don't matter)sleeper;1831634 wrote:1. Lebron James
2. Russell Westbrook
3. Kevin Durant
4. Kyrie Irving
5. Stephen Curry
6. DeMarcus Cousins
7. Giannis Antetokounmpo
8. Kawhi Leonard
9. Anthony Davis
10. Kevin Love
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26. James Harden -
Laley23
Fuck. Forgot about Gasol.Commander of Awesome;1831611 wrote:1. LeBron
2. Westbrook
3. Durant
4. Leonard
5. Davis
6. Paul George
7. Irving
8. Lillard
9. Giannis Antetokounmpo
10. Marc Gasol
1 way players get no love from me. -
Ironman92
I didn't. I don't think he affects the game quite as much as he has the last few years. He's top 16 for me. I did have trouble on where to place Paul George. I have him 12-14 but also gave him strong consideration for #10Laley23;1831645 wrote:Fuck. Forgot about Gasol. -
Commander of Awesome
Disagree. He's having an hell of a seasonIronman92;1831648 wrote:I didn't. I don't think he affects the game quite as much as he has the last few years. He's top 16 for me. I did have trouble on where to place Paul George. I have him 12-14 but also gave him strong consideration for #10
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2017_advanced.html
I'd take him over CP3, and Cousins from your list easily. No real stat based argument to have those two over him. -
sleeper
11. Chris PaulIronman92;1831639 wrote:Well fuck. Moderately liked your top 10 but like a true pro that you are I'm now interested as fuck for your 11-25 (even though I know they don't matter)
12. Damian Lillard
13. Jimmy Butler
14. Marc Gasol
15. Isiah Thomas
16. Demar DeRozan
17. Carmelo Anthony
18. Karl-Anthony Towns
19. Gordon Hayward
20. Paul Millsap
21. Gordon Hayward
22. Draymond Green
23. Bradley Beal
24. Paul George
25. Klay Thompson -
Commander of Awesome
lol at Beal. Just lol
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sleeper
He's the most underrated guard in the league. He's certainly 10x the player John Wall and if Wall didn't hog the ball every game Beal would easily be a HOF player. I had to rate Beal that low simply because he's got a trash rat on his team and doesn't have the balls to tell management to trade Wall for a bag of sand; at least the sand has value.Commander of Awesome;1831653 wrote:lol at Beal. Just lol -
Ironman92
What do you want me to look at? I looked at regular stats and gazed over advanced stats like player efficiency rating, win shares per 48, VORP, offensive and defensive win sharesCommander of Awesome;1831651 wrote:Disagree. He's having an hell of a season
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2017_advanced.html
I'd take him over CP3, and Cousins from your list easily. No real stat based argument to have those two over him. -
Commander of Awesome
Not to mention he plays like 50 games a season and is on a career minutes restriction at 23. Plus he's a fucking turnstile on def. -2.9 DBPMsleeper;1831654 wrote:He's the most underrated guard in the league. He's certainly 10x the player John Wall and if Wall didn't hog the ball every game Beal would easily be a HOF player. I had to rate Beal that low simply because he's got a trash rat on his team and doesn't have the balls to tell management to trade Wall for a bag of sand; at least the sand has value.
Like I said, LOL -
Commander of Awesome
Just a reference point. I think he's having an in the discussion for MVP type of season. Keeping that in mind, I don't think Curry deserved either MVP nor do I think Harden should be near the discussion. Can't be an MVP with a bottom of the league DEF ranking, but that's JMO.Ironman92;1831656 wrote:What do you want me to look at? I looked at regular stats and gazed over advanced stats like player efficiency rating, win shares per 48, VORP, offensive and defensive win shares
As for Cousins, you can't be a top 10 player have never win more than 30 games in a season. Top 10 players get winz. Yeah the Kings roster suck, but you put KD/LBJ/Westbrook/Kwahi/Davis on it, they winning 28 games? -
sleeper
Again, if he played on another team that didn't have a garbage can in John Wall, he'd be a top 10 player.Commander of Awesome;1831661 wrote:Not to mention he plays like 50 games a season and is on a career minutes restriction at 23. Plus he's a fucking turnstile on def. -2.9 DBPM
Like I said, LOL -
Commander of Awesome
Top 10 Players don't have -2 defensive ratings and play more than 50 games.sleeper;1831665 wrote:Again, if he played on another team that didn't have a garbage can in John Wall, he'd be a top 10 player. -
sportswizuhrd
So you actually DO think Harden is top 25!sleeper;1831652 wrote:11. Chris Paul
12. Damian Lillard
13. Jimmy Butler
14. Marc Gasol
15. Isiah Thomas
16. Demar DeRozan
17. Carmelo Anthony
18. Karl-Anthony Towns
19. Gordon Hayward
20. Paul Millsap
21. Gordon Hayward
22. Draymond Green
23. Bradley Beal
24. Paul George
25. Klay Thompson -
like_that
Do you all remember the good ol days when we argued who is better between Dion Waiters and Beal? -
Commander of Awesome
lol, both trash but Beal is less trash I guess.like_that;1831687 wrote:Do you all remember the good ol days when we argued who is better between Dion Waiters and Beal? -
friendfromlowryThis Knicks - Bucks game is actually really good.
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friendfromlowrySomehow the Bucks lost. And I did too for watching a Knicks - Bucks game.
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Ironman92
Bucks and Knicks good watch...Knicks finished strong
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Ironman92
Fair enough but Cousins team is the trash #8 seed on pace for 35 wins (can't imagine 35 making playoffs lol) but his team is 15-20 and you have AD as your #5 and his team is 14-22.Commander of Awesome;1831664 wrote:Just a reference point. I think he's having an in the discussion for MVP type of season. Keeping that in mind, I don't think Curry deserved either MVP nor do I think Harden should be near the discussion. Can't be an MVP with a bottom of the league DEF ranking, but that's JMO.
As for Cousins, you can't be a top 10 player have never win more than 30 games in a season. Top 10 players get winz. Yeah the Kings roster suck, but you put KD/LBJ/Westbrook/Kwahi/Davis on it, they winning 28 games?
I already admitted not really knowing where to put Cousins and while he's 2nd in scoring his rebounds have dropped and thought his assist numbers were higher. -
wildcats20
Eh..you got to see Giannis and Jabari. The Bucks, although shitty now, will be a good team in a few years.friendfromlowry;1831703 wrote:Somehow the Bucks lost. And I did too for watching a Knicks - Bucks game. -
Commander of Awesome
I get that but ad has made playoffs and been in MVP voting and won more than 33 games.Ironman92;1831707 wrote:Fair enough but Cousins team is the trash #8 seed on pace for 35 wins (can't imagine 35 making playoffs lol) but his team is 15-20 and you have AD as your #5 and his team is 14-22.
I already admitted not really knowing where to put Cousins and while he's 2nd in scoring his rebounds have dropped and thought his assist numbers were higher.