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2016 Browns Season Thread

  • Commander of Awesome
    Damn, Haden to IR over concussions. Must have been one hellva of concussion.

    http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2015/12/14/browns-place-joe-haden-on-injured-reserve-make-3-other-roster-moves/#.Vm9FNBzfBzQ.twitter
  • SportsAndLady
    Commander of Awesome;1769477 wrote:Damn, Haden to IR over concussions. Must have been one hellva of concussion.

    http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2015/12/14/browns-place-joe-haden-on-injured-reserve-make-3-other-roster-moves/#.Vm9FNBzfBzQ.twitter
    Either that or he was afraid to play and get another bad one in a meaningless season. Wouldn't blame him.
  • Commander of Awesome
    SportsAndLady;1769478 wrote:Either that or he was afraid to play and get another bad one in a meaningless season. Wouldn't blame him.
    He would have to be throwing the tests on purpose then since he's still in the concussion protocol. I find that hard to believe. Doesn't mean I want him to come back this season, no reason to.
  • Ironman92
    Thought maybe team was just shutting him down...didn't realize he was still on protocol.

    Former Browns QB Hoyer with his 2nd concussion in a month...thinking he returned too soon.
  • lhslep134
    Really excited to see how Manziel does against the Seahawks D.
  • Ironman92
    Big measuring stick for Manziel.
  • BRF
    I'm not so much "really excited", but I AM looking forward to it!
  • HitsRus
    If we fall a couple of slots because JFF proves that he can play in this league I'm OK with that.
  • rrfan
    Going to be a painful weekend for the Browns. Seattle is not SF JFF will find that out quickly.
  • BR1986FB
    rrfan;1769558 wrote:Going to be a painful weekend for the Browns. Seattle is not SF JFF will find that out quickly.
    Agreed. It's not so much that I don't believe he can make the throws as much as it is "can the receivers get open against the Seahawks secondary." I also expect the running game to go back to putrid and the Crow to come back to reality.

    Seattle's defense is playing very well right now. I doubt the Browns will put up 10 points, on offense, in this one.
  • SportsAndLady
    Seahawks make a lot of good QB's look bad. Just like I'm not going to judge manziel after playing the lowly niners, I'm not going to judge him after playing the Seahawks.

    Hopefully he plays well but I'm not expecting much.
  • BR1986FB
    SportsAndLady;1769564 wrote:Seahawks make a lot of good QB's look bad. Just like I'm not going to judge manziel after playing the lowly niners, I'm not going to judge him after playing the Seahawks.

    Hopefully he plays well but I'm not expecting much.
    Unlike a certain individual on another thread who has already enshrined him, the expectations of Manziel in this game shouldn't be high. It would be nice to just see him progress and continue to improve.
  • sleeper
    lhslep134;1769507 wrote:Really excited to see how Manziel does against the Seahawks D.
    Don't get your hopes up. Manziel is still one of the worst QBs in the league.
  • lhslep134
    sleeper;1769588 wrote:Don't get your hopes up. Manziel is still one of the worst QBs in the league.
    I have zero expectations of him. I'm excited because we can finally see if he's made any improvement. He's getting tested by a great defense and not whatever you want to call the Niners effort on Sunday.
  • Sonofanump
    The line 14.5. That is all you need to know.
  • Mulva
    Sonofanump;1769603 wrote:The line 14.5. That is all you need to know.

    That seems low based on the past 2 weeks.
  • Sonofanump
    Sonofanump;1769422 wrote:
    15 Sun, Dec 20 @ New England 1:00 PM ET
    16 Sun, Dec 27 Houston 1:00 PM ET
    17 Sun, Jan 03 @ Indianapolis 1:00 PM ET
    Tennessee: Houston and Indy could be winnable.
    15 Sun, Dec 20 Miami 4:25 PM ET
    16 Thu, Dec 24 @ Oakland 8:25 PM ET
    17 Sun, Jan 03 @ Denver 4:25 PM ET
    San Diego: Chance to win any of these three, if Denver has nothing to play for and rest starters.
    San Diego is a 1 point favorite this week at home.
  • BR1986FB
    How Gordon's keeping himself occupied during his suspension....

    http://cle.247sports.com/Bolt/Josh-Gordon-turns-to-art-during-suspension-42047622
  • BR1986FB
    Mulva;1769610 wrote:That seems low based on the past 2 weeks.
    Considering that in the losses since the Browns started 7-4 last year, their average margin of loss has been about 14 points, I'd agree.
  • Commander of Awesome
    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/greg-cosell-s-week-14-review--johnny-manziel-has-a-solid-start-164240008.html
  • sleeper
    lhslep134;1769589 wrote:I have zero expectations of him. I'm excited because we can finally see if he's made any improvement. He's getting tested by a great defense and not whatever you want to call the Niners effort on Sunday.
    He's made zero improvement. He's not good.

    I expect an absolute dismal, borderline trash performance from Manziel on Sunday. Beating the lowly 49er's is barely worth the breath to talk about how low of an accomplishment that is.
  • BR1986FB
    sleeper;1769634 wrote:He's made zero improvement.
    This is such over the top bullshit. To say "zero" is preposterous.

    I don't think he's their long term answer but if you can't see that he's improved from Tennessee to Pittsburgh to SF, you're blind. And it's obvious you didn't watch that Cincinnati debacle last year.

    Granted, SF wasn't much of a test but his play could've been significantly worse. He's far from a "franchise QB" at this point but he has "improved."
  • sleeper
    BR1986FB;1769657 wrote:This is such over the top bullshit. To say "zero" is preposterous.

    I don't think he's their long term answer but if you can't see that he's improved from Tennessee to Pittsburgh to SF, you're blind. And it's obvious you didn't watch that Cincinnati debacle last year.

    Granted, SF wasn't much of a test but his play could've been significantly worse. He's far from a "franchise QB" at this point but he has "improved."
    Improved from dog shit to potential backup is an improvement; however irrelevant to solving the Browns rotating door at QB.

    Manziel is going to get his ass handed to him against the Seahawks. His "improvement" is a joke at best. He's not good, he will never be good, and if the Browns had any balls they'd cut him immediately.
  • BR1986FB
    Well that's more than "zero" improvement. He may never be good enough to be an NFL starter but you at least have to give the guy his due that he has gotten better.
  • sleeper
    BR1986FB;1769765 wrote:Well that's more than "zero" improvement. He may never be good enough to be an NFL starter but you at least have to give the guy his due that he has gotten better.
    This isn't high school or college. Improving is useless.

    Manziel sucks. Cut him.