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• Lovejoy1984

  

  SportsAndLady;1780911 wrote:Seriously?
  
  You're a pretty sad KL apologist. The guy is an injury machine. If this doesn't end his season, another injury will.

  More overreaction, though I shouldn't be surprised. That's your "thing".
  
  Tell us more about Paul George being trash, and Love being worthless(while averaging 16, and 11).
  
  You can call me an apologist all you'd like, but I've been critical of his game plenty(he's too unselfish, shoots too many threes, defense a definite weak point) but, when I see terrible overreactions I'm gonna call it out.
• sportswizuhrd

  SportsAndLady;1780911 wrote:Seriously?
  
  You're a pretty sad KL apologist. The guy is an injury machine. If this doesn't end his season, another injury will.

  Injury machine but he's played in more games the past three years than Kyrie has.
• SportsAndLady

  

  HighRoller74;1780915 wrote:More overreaction, though I shouldn't be surprised. That's your "thing".
  
  Tell us more about Paul George being trash, and Love being worthless(while averaging 16, and 11).
  
  You can call me an apologist all you'd like, but I've been critical of his game plenty(he's too unselfish, shoots too many threes, defense a definite weak point) but, when I see terrible overreactions I'm gonna call it out.

  Kevin Love will end his career accomplishing absolutely nothing, yet people like you will say, "Well, he's averaging 16 and 11 for his career, so he's pretty damn good!"
  
  Again, when will you realize he is not a piece to the championship puzzle? He'll never win anything. He should go to LA and drop 16 and 11 for a 26-56 team.
• SportsAndLady

  

  sportswizuhrd;1780916 wrote:Injury machine but he's played in more games the past two years than Kyrie has.

  Kyrie has missed his fair share of games, too. But when he's healthy, he's a top 3 PG. You put up with the injuries for players who are top 3 at their position.
• Lovejoy1984

  

  SportsAndLady;1780917 wrote:Kevin Love will end his career accomplishing absolutely nothing, yet people like you will say, "Well, he's averaging 16 and 11 for his career, so he's pretty damn good!"
  
  Again, when will you realize he is not a piece to the championship puzzle? He'll never win anything. He should go to LA and drop 16 and 11 for a 26-56 team.

  Oh, so now that's the defining point on if someone is good or not? Sounds like a sleeper argument.....but ok.
  
  So there are like 5, or 6 good players in the league, and everyone else is trash? Good to know.
• SportsAndLady

  

  HighRoller74;1780919 wrote:Oh, so now that's the defining point on if someone is good or not? Sounds like a sleeper argument.....but ok.
  
  So there are like 5, or 6 good players in the league, and everyone else is trash? Good to know.

  Sleeper argument? He was on a garbage Minnesota team, and has been on a championship team for a year and a half and has been a complete failure. Tell me more about his stats though.
• Ironman92

  

  like_that;1780901 wrote:I wish we traded for fat Kevin Love.

  Lol
• Ironman92

  

  Here come the Kobe's!
• Lovejoy1984

  

  SportsAndLady;1780921 wrote:Sleeper argument? He was on a garbage Minnesota team, and has been on a championship team for a year and a half and has been a complete failure. Tell me more about his stats though.

  What exactly do you expect out of Kevin Love? I'm truly interested.
  
  By all accounts he's done exactly what he's asked to do, has been labeled a great teammate, and putting up good numbers as the 3rd option?
• Ironman92

  

  These 2 fouls on Kobe's 3's are ridiculous. Look like courtesy calls.
• sportswizuhrd

  The Cavs pick when Kobe was drafted by Charlotte...
  
  Current Cavs player-development coach Vitaly Potapenko. LOL.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  HighRoller74;1780915 wrote:More overreaction, though I shouldn't be surprised. That's your "thing".
  
  Tell us more about Paul George being trash, and Love being worthless(while averaging 16, and 11).
  
  You can call me an apologist all you'd like, but I've been critical of his game plenty(he's too unselfish, shoots too many threes, defense a definite weak point) but, when I see terrible overreactions I'm gonna call it out.

  Are you drunj?
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  SportsAndLady;1780911 wrote:Seriously?
  
  You're a pretty sad KL apologist. The guy is an injury machine. If this doesn't end his season, another injury will.

  SportsAndLady;1780917 wrote:Kevin Love will end his career accomplishing absolutely nothing, yet people like you will say, "Well, he's averaging 16 and 11 for his career, so he's pretty damn good!"
  
  Again, when will you realize he is not a piece to the championship puzzle? He'll never win anything. He should go to LA and drop 16 and 11 for a 26-56 team.

  
  lol there it is. The overreaction machine at his best.
• BR1986FB

  SportsAndLady;1780921 wrote:and has been on a championship team for a year and a half and has been a complete failure.

  O'Rly? And what team is that? Sure as Hell isn't the Cavs because they aren't a "championship team." Paper champions, maybe.
• like_that

  

  BR1986FB;1780960 wrote:O'Rly? And what team is that? Sure as Hell isn't the Cavs because they aren't a "championship team." Paper champions, maybe.

  The cavs are a championship level team, they just happen to be playing the same season as a historically good team. The cavs have a better record than the Hawks did last year at this time. The only difference is the media and everyone else were jerking off to the Hawks and everyone is being dramatic with the Cavs. Quit letting media hot takes influence you.
  
  They aren't favored to win it, just just because they lost 2 regular season games to GSW doesn't mean we should completely write off this entire season.
• sleeper

  

  like_that;1780976 wrote:The cavs are a championship level team, they just happen to be playing the same season as a historically good team. The cavs have a better record than the Hawks did last year at this time. The only difference is the media and everyone else were jerking off to the Hawks and everyone is being dramatic with the Cavs. Quit letting media hot takes influence you.
  
  They aren't favored to win it, just just because they lost 2 regular season games to GSW doesn't mean we should completely write off this entire season.

  I think we can still win but we have to find something other than relying on Love's "16/11" every night.
  
  "16/11" the dream for a max level player in his prime. LOL
• Azubuike24

  

  While I'm not a Cavs fan, it's pretty clear just from watching them that something needs to change. I've heard so many different names linked and potential moves speculated. They need a "tweak." Something similar to how the Smith/Mozgov/Shumpert acquisitions totally changed the dynamic of that team.
• like_that

  

  Azubuike24;1780981 wrote:While I'm not a Cavs fan, it's pretty clear just from watching them that something needs to change. I've heard so many different names linked and potential moves speculated. They need a "tweak." Something similar to how the Smith/Mozgov/Shumpert acquisitions totally changed the dynamic of that team.

  They need a tweak to help slow down draymond imo.
• sleeper

  

  Azubuike24;1780981 wrote:While I'm not a Cavs fan, it's pretty clear just from watching them that something needs to change. I've heard so many different names linked and potential moves speculated. They need a "tweak." Something similar to how the Smith/Mozgov/Shumpert acquisitions totally changed the dynamic of that team.

  I agree with this. The team is good and can probably win the East this year but we are missing something.
  
  I'm still in the camp that thinks Griffin is going crazy on the phone lines trying to get another player in here that can add some value against GSW.
• BR1986FB

  like_that;1780976 wrote:Quit letting media hot takes influence you.

  With all due respect, go fuck yourself with your "media hot takes" shit. I see what I see.
  
  This team might be championship "level" or "caliber" but they're not a championship team. Big difference.
  
  This team is mentally soft and doesn't have what it takes to win a ring, imo. That's no "hot take" from any media source. It's what I see, night in, night out from this team.
  
  Do they have the physical talent to win? Sure, but upstairs (mentally), they are soft.
• like_that

  

  BR1986FB;1780987 wrote:With all due respect, go fuck yourself with your "media hot takes" shit. I see what I see.
  
  This team might be championship "level" or "caliber" but they're not a championship team. Big difference.
  
  This team is mentally soft and doesn't have what it takes to win a ring, imo. That's no "hot take" from any media source. It's what I see, night in, night out from this team.
  
  Do they have the physical talent to win? Sure, but upstairs (mentally), they are soft.

  Lol ok BR you watch like 3 games a year and then just listen to whatever the media tells you.
  
  The same team that is mentally weak is the same team that made it to the finals last year bruised and battered. Please tell me more about what the media has told you.
  
  You can kindly go fuck yourself as well.
• Azubuike24

  

  I've heard Jeff Green's name thrown around. That could be a good fit. The pick and roll with Draymond and Steph is something the Cavs got torched with.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Azubuike24;1780981 wrote:While I'm not a Cavs fan, it's pretty clear just from watching them that something needs to change. I've heard so many different names linked and potential moves speculated. They need a "tweak." Something similar to how the Smith/Mozgov/Shumpert acquisitions totally changed the dynamic of that team.

  Exactly.
  
  Hopefully griffin sees this, too, and knows what he's doing. I do think he'll make a drastic move before the deadline.
• sleeper

  

  BR1986FB;1780987 wrote:With all due respect, go fuck yourself with your "media hot takes" shit. I see what I see.
  
  This team might be championship "level" or "caliber" but they're not a championship team. Big difference.
  
  This team is mentally soft and doesn't have what it takes to win a ring, imo. That's no "hot take" from any media source. It's what I see, night in, night out from this team.
  
  Do they have the physical talent to win? Sure, but upstairs (mentally), they are soft.

  I think soft is a poor choice of words. They aren't soft, they are complacent. They are going through the motions and hope to turn it on come playoff time but that's not really how it works in the NBA.
• like_that

  

  sleeper;1780994 wrote: but that's not really how it works in the NBA.

  Actually a lot of teams have won NBA titles or made it to the finals by doing the exact thing.