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2015 Browns Offseason Thread

  • BR1986FB
    sleeper;1726869 wrote:Pryor 69.3 rating
    Manziel 42.0 rating

    Not homerism. They both suck but Pryor is better, no doubt.
    Sure it is. You always latch on to the OSU guys and they suck at QB. Troy Smith? Sucks. Pryor? Sucks. You also want Cardale Jones after three games.

    Just like Cardale Jones, I'd like to see a larger sample size (35 passes for Manziel vs 302 for Pryor) from JFF before saying he's worse than that scrub Pryor.
  • SportsAndLady
    Pryor didn't make it in the NFL.

    Manziel had 3 bad games in his rookie year.

    The two aren't comparable but it's no surprise this is an OC argument.
  • sleeper
    BR1986FB;1726874 wrote:Sure it is. You always latch on to the OSU guys and they suck at QB. Troy Smith? Sucks. Pryor? Sucks. You also want Cardale Jones after three games.

    Just like Cardale Jones, I'd like to see a larger sample size (35 passes for Manziel vs 302 for Pryor) from JFF before saying he's worse than that scrub Pryor.
    T. Smith is substantially better than Manziel. Come on, why are we even bothering defending a QB that is going to ride the bench while JOSH MCCOWN starts. He's trash, cut him.
  • sleeper
    SportsAndLady;1726884 wrote:Pryor didn't make it in the NFL.

    Manziel had 3 bad games in his rookie year.

    The two aren't comparable but it's no surprise this is an OC argument.
    Pryor isn't a good QB but at least he actually had somewhat of an NFL career while Manziel has been nothing but a media circus waste of space.
  • Pick6
    SportsAndLady;1726884 wrote:Pryor didn't make it in the NFL.

    Manziel had 3 bad games in his rookie year.

    The two aren't comparable but it's no surprise this is an OC argument.
    1.5
  • BR1986FB
    sleeper;1726886 wrote:T. Smith is substantially better than Manziel. Come on, why are we even bothering defending a QB that is going to ride the bench while JOSH MCCOWN starts. He's trash, cut him.
    You're so ridiculously over the top that nobody can take the shit you're posting seriously.
  • SportsAndLady
    sleeper;1726887 wrote:Pryor isn't a good QB but at least he actually had somewhat of an NFL career while Manziel has been nothing but a media circus waste of space.
    Pryor may have had "somewhat of an NFL career" compared to previous Ohio State QBs. But anyone who lives on this side of sanity would see he had jack shit for an NFL career.


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  • Al Bundy
    SportsAndLady;1726893 wrote:Pryor may have had "somewhat of an NFL career" compared to previous Ohio State QBs.


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    Tom Tupa disagrees.
  • BR1986FB
    Al Bundy;1726897 wrote:Tom Tupa disagrees.
    Tom Tupa could punt a football! He was no Scott Player though.
  • SportsAndLady
    Al Bundy;1726897 wrote:Tom Tupa disagrees.
    The punter?


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  • Al Bundy
    SportsAndLady;1726901 wrote:The punter?


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    The most successful OSU qb in the NFL.
  • BR1986FB
    Al Bundy;1726907 wrote:The most successful OSU qb in the NFL.
    I'd love to see an OSU QB leading the Browns but, for the most part, they're just not good.
  • thavoice
    Man, remember watching Tupa play for Brecksville in the state finals at the Shoe way, way back in the day!

    He had a nice niche being able to play QB as well as punt. I dont recall if it helped him stick around a little longer than he normally would have if he had only punted.

    Maybe the bengals can use Nugent as a QB as well since he did play that inHS!
  • thavoice
    BR1986FB;1726911 wrote:I'd love to see an OSU QB leading the Browns but, for the most part, they're just not good.
    Yeah...not too much luck for OSU QBs in the nfl.

    Local boy Bobby Hoying bounced around a little bit after playing well for OSU. Raiders, Eagles..maybe another team. Remember him telling someoone one time Ray Rhoades at Philly delayed practice because he was in the middle of a poker game inthe locker room....and people wonder why he wasnt a successful coach.

    Todd Boeckman was on a practice squad or two after OSU.

    I think Jones has a shot though to be the real deal
  • sleeper
    SportsAndLady;1726893 wrote:Pryor may have had "somewhat of an NFL career" compared to previous Ohio State QBs. But anyone who lives on this side of sanity would see he had jack shit for an NFL career.


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    Agreed Pryor had jack shit for an NFL career but he's still had more of a career than Johnny WasteofSpace Manziel.

    Does anyone here actually think Manziel is "the guy"? If so, I got a bridge to sell you.
  • sleeper
    BR1986FB;1726911 wrote:I'd love to see an OSU QB leading the Browns but, for the most part, they're just not good.
    Cardale Jones.
  • BR1986FB
    sleeper;1726923 wrote:Cardale Jones.
    STFU with that stupid shit. He's played THREE games. If you're going to throw Manziel, who had a MUCH better college career, under the bus after one and a half NFL games, you can hardly crown Cardale after three. But again, I forgot who I was talking about. Jones could be good but if I'm a betting man, his play comes back down to Earth this year.
  • sleeper
    BR1986FB;1726925 wrote:STFU with that stupid shit. He's played THREE games. If you're going to throw Manziel, who had a MUCH better college career, under the bus after one and a half NFL games, you can hardly crown Cardale after three. But again, I forgot who I was talking about. Jones could be good but if I'm a betting man, his play comes back down to Earth this year.
    Manziel isn't 6'5 250 lbs nor did Manziel actually do anything in college except for beat Bama 1 time. He never won the SEC and he never won a championship; something Cardale has done + beating Bama. If the Browns pass on Jones, might as well not even watch football for the next decade.
  • sleeper
    And if I'm a betting man, Cardale goes undefeated next year and is the first QB taken in the NFL draft next year. Hoping its the Browns because whoever gets him is winning Super Bowls.
  • BR1986FB
    LOL about the "Super Bowls" comment.
  • Automatik
    LOL at you continuing to take his bait.
  • BR1986FB
    Automatik;1726930 wrote:LOL at you continuing to take his bait.
    Touche
  • sleeper
    BR1986FB;1726929 wrote:LOL about the "Super Bowls" comment.
    I didn't stutter. Cardale is winning multiple Super Bowls in his NFL career. But yeah keep thinking Manziel is going to win anything in the league. No one on here forgets you slobbering over Weeden and Quinn and then Manziel; how'd that work out?
  • sleeper
    All we've proven is your ability to recognize NFL talent at the QB is non-existent at best. I'm glad you disagree with me regarding Cardale.
  • sleeper
    I also remember you with a hard-on for RGIII; LOL. How'd that work out?