Tribe Offseason Thread

• like_that

  

  Laley23;1705845 wrote:Considering Ramirez hit over .300 in his second stint with the team, and even better in the 2-hole to end the year, I think he is a shoe-in to start the year. Lindor is still the #4 rated prospect and I don't expect him to be down there all year.

  I don't either. I think they gotta find a way to get him playing in the bigs. He could be a spark the team needs.
• HitsRus

  

  The Giambino has officially hung up his spikes on a great career tonite...no word whether he will accept the Indians' offer of a coaching job.
• Ironman92

  

  Laley23;1705825 wrote:CF - Bourn
  SS - Ramirez
  LF - Brantley
  1B - Santana
  C - Gomes
  RF - Moss
  2B - Kipnis
  DH - Swisher
  3B - Chisenhall
  
  Not really sure what to do with Moss/Kipnis/Swisher. Kipnis could hit top 3rd of the line-up if he is back to 2013 form, and Moss could suck but you need the power in the middle.

  Brantley has to bat 2nd or 3rd IMO....not sure I like Gomes/Santana back to back
• Ironman92

  

  like_that;1705840 wrote:I think Kipnis is ready for a rebound year. What is the word on Lindor? I figured this would be the year where he breaks into the big leagues.

  Two years ago he was great....last year the league caught up with him. I'd bet he'll adjust a bit and improve but not near 2013
• Laley23

  

  Ironman92;1706222 wrote:Brantley has to bat 2nd or 3rd IMO....not sure I like Gomes/Santana back to back

  Pretty sure the best offense of the Tribe season was when Santana was cleanup and Gomes moved to 5th.
• Ironman92

  

  Laley23;1706237 wrote:Pretty sure the best offense of the Tribe season was when Santana was cleanup and Gomes moved to 5th.

  I believe you and Santana lives on the bases and has to be in the upper portion of the lineup and Gomes seems so clutch. I would like Brantley between them somehow but also would not want one of them clogging the bases if he wanted/needed a steal. I agree your lineup is best after further review.
• HitsRus

  

  Tribe has signed Bruce Chen to a minor league deal.....one of those resurrect an injured pitcher/lightning in a bottle type deals...except that Chen was never a top shelf pitcher to begin with.
  
  Tribe also being named as a suitor for Dayan Viciedo.
  With Moss and Swisher's everyday status unclear, Viciedo could provide enough pop to be a DH/part time RF if one or both Swish or Moss is unable to start the season.
• Ironman92

  

  HitsRus;1706241 wrote:Tribe has signed Bruce Chen to a minor league deal.....one of those resurrect an injured pitcher/lightning in a bottle type deals...except that Chen was never a top shelf pitcher to begin with.
  
  Tribe also being named as a suitor for Dayan Viciedo.
  With Moss and Swisher's everyday status unclear, Viciedo could provide enough pop to be a DH/part time RF if one or both Swish or Moss is unable to start the season.

  Viciedo really struggled the last several months of last year. He has pop but that .281 OB% is alarming
• HitsRus

  

  ^^^personally, I think the Tribe has enough options in Murphy, Holt, Ramsey and Walters.
• BR1986FB

  Surprisingly, I think the Tribe will be alright offensively. I'm actually more concerned about their starting rotation. After Kluber, it's a crapshoot imo. Will Carrasco keep making strides or revert to his old self? Does Gavin Floyd have anything left? Will it finally "click" for Salazar & Bauer?
  
  I think the potential is definitely there but for as good as these guys CAN be, they could also be just as bad.
• TBone14

  

  Anybody else get this email today?
  
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  Greetings from Progressive Field,
  
  In a previous survey, you indicated your interest in participating in a trial fan loyalty program with the Indians. This trial program, called Tribe Rewards, would reward you for spending money on Indians tickets through Indians.com, watching away games, engaging with the Tribe on social media, and more! Participants in Tribe Rewards will receive points for these actions that they can redeem for Indians memorabilia, merchandise, and unique gameday experiences.
  
  If you are still interested in participating in this program, please reply to this email with your preferred name, email address, and phone number. We will use this information to create a temporary login for you, and will send an additional email with instructions on how to create a permanent password before the start of the 2015 season.
  
  If you have any questions in the meantime, you can contact an Indians Fan Service representative at (216)420-HITS.
  
  Go Tribe!
• lhslep134

  

  I'd sign up for that if I lived in NE Ohio. Seems like it's just freebies for doing the things I would do anyways.
• HitsRus

  

  Apparently they are extending this to non season ticket holders. Last year, it was available to season ticket holders...it is a good program got free tickets and a couple of Francona jerseys....kind of mffts me a bit that you can now get these without being a season ticket holder.
• TBone14

  

  HitsRus;1706632 wrote:Apparently they are extending this to non season ticket holders. Last year, it was available to season ticket holders...it is a good program got free tickets and a couple of Francona jerseys....kind of mffts me a bit that you can now get these without being a season ticket holder.

  That would mfft me as well. Hopefully the rewards are better for season ticket holders.
• lhslep134

  

  HitsRus;1706632 wrote:kind of mffts me a bit that you can now get these without being a season ticket holder.

  If you're being serious, then your post screams butthurt.
  
  You're miffed the Indians are trying to get more fans involved? Did you buy those season tickets so you could get those perks now available to others? No, you bought season tickets to see the Indians play the game of baseball.
• HitsRus

  

  They do advertise as an enticement to buy season tickets, certain perks that go with your level of commitment.
  
  Butthurt???really?.....I'm the one who regularly complains on here about the lack of support given to this team by the fanbase. This certainly is not a dealbreaker for me, and I thought I was being clear that it was worth signing up for. That others who support the team get some benefits really doesn't hurt me and if it helps fill the stadium I'm okay with it.
  
  My main "miff" is that it another loss of exclusive privledges that season ticket holders enjoy. It used to be that Terrace Club use was an exclusive privledge, but now anyone can go there. Last year, they took away limited "free" exchanges of unused tickets, and assigned a cost of Tribe Reward points to it.( and it was expensive). They added other things like exclusive events that STH can attend (however, often with an additional cost).
  Probably, if there is one thing that I'm "butthurt" about is loss of the ability to exchange a limited amount of unused tickets for another game. Since I live 40 miles away, it pretty much sucks having to drive that distance when the weather sucks, and pay for parking only to get a rain check. The other options would be just to eat the tickets which you paid for if the game does get played....or you could pay for an exchange using your Tribe Reward points. Unfortunately, the points required for that exchange are not small...and I don't feel like spending 1/4 of my points to get some cheap seats to a game.
• lhslep134

  

  HitsRus;1706737 wrote:They do advertise as an enticement to buy season tickets, certain perks that go with your level of commitment.
  
  Butthurt???really?.....I'm the one who regularly complains on here about the lack of support given to this team by the fanbase. This certainly is not a dealbreaker for me, and I thought I was being clear that it was worth signing up for. That others who support the team get some benefits really doesn't hurt me and if it helps fill the stadium I'm okay with it.
  
  My main "miff" is that it another loss of exclusive privledges that season ticket holders enjoy. It used to be that Terrace Club use was an exclusive privledge, but now anyone can go there. Last year, they took away limited "free" exchanges of unused tickets, and assigned a cost of Tribe Reward points to it.( and it was expensive). They added other things like exclusive events that STH can attend (however, often with an additional cost).
  Probably, if there is one thing that I'm "butthurt" about is loss of the ability to exchange a limited amount of unused tickets for another game. Since I live 40 miles away, it pretty much sucks having to drive that distance when the weather sucks, and pay for parking only to get a rain check. The other options would be just to eat the tickets which you paid for if the game does get played....or you could pay for an exchange using your Tribe Reward points. Unfortunately, the points required for that exchange are not small...and I don't feel like spending 1/4 of my points to get some cheap seats to a game.

  None of that speaks to my point. If you're miffed about a rewards program for fan loyalty and social media interaction you're being butthurt.
  
  The other grievances you listed are legit. As someone who used to go to the Terrace Club with my grandpa all throughout my youth, I know. But a loyalty program? C'mon man.
• TBone14

  

  lhslep134;1706768 wrote:None of that speaks to my point. If you're miffed about a rewards program for fan loyalty and social media interaction you're being butthurt.
  
  The other grievances you listed are legit. As someone who used to go to the Terrace Club with my grandpa all throughout my youth, I know. But a loyalty program? C'mon man.

  There has to be a reason to be a season ticket holder and benefits. You can pretty much get any ticket to any game at face value through the website. There are always good seats available, especially weekday games. What is the point of being a season ticket holder when I can just buy tickets to any game I want and basically pick where I sit whenever I want to go?
  
  You get first dibs on playoff seats. Great. They make the playoffs once every 6 years. Season ticket holders are the lifeblood of any organization. Guaranteed revenue. Paid up front. They should do a better job of keeping those folks happy.
• HitsRus

  

  None of that speaks to my point. If you're miffed about a rewards program for fan loyalty and social media interaction you're being butthurt.

  I don't know what you define as butthurt, but it certainly is not about the "loyalty program", and I thought I made myself clear what truly bothered me.... The only reason I was mfft about that was that it was another chnage in what was STH exclusivity. If Tribe Rewards brings more fans in, I'm all for it....just let me exchange a few unused tickets without charge on MY rewards account.
  
  I really don't want to argue about this with another tribe fan....the program is a good idea, and I'd sign up for it.
• lhslep134

  

  TBone14;1706799 wrote:What is the point of being a season ticket holder when I can just buy tickets to any game I want and basically pick where I sit whenever I want to go?

  Well if there's no longer value in having season tickets then I don't know why you would still get them
  
  My family gave up their season tickets years ago. They weren't getting the same value for them they used to.
• lhslep134

  

  I realize I'm being combative but forgive me for not being empathetic towards your guys' cause when I/my family faced the same issues and acted on them instead of complaining about them.
• TBone14

  

  lhslep134;1706808 wrote:Well if there's no longer value in having season tickets then I don't know why you would still get them
  
  My family gave up their season tickets years ago. They weren't getting the same value for them they used to.

  lhslep134;1706810 wrote:I realize I'm being combative but forgive me for not being empathetic towards your guys' cause when I/my family faced the same issues and acted on them instead of complaining about them.

  
  I'm not a season ticket holder. As I stated, I have no reason to. I can buy tickets to any game I want, whenever I want to go. My point was that season ticket holders are important to organization and they should do better to take care of those people.
• lhslep134

  

  TBone14;1706813 wrote: My point was that season ticket holders are important to organization and they should do better to take care of those people.

  
  Our positions are far from mutually exclusive. I agree season ticket holders are important. But any time you're making a big investment like that you should be considering the value you're inputting and the value you're getting out. And if someone is so convinced that it's not worth the value but still pays for them, I refuse to give any merit to their complaining about the aforementioned value gap.
  
  The inverse SHOULD apply to the Indians. If less and less people are investing in season tickets the Tribe should do something to incentivize them. If they're not, like Hits is suggesting, then that's on them and they shouldn't be surprised less people keep renewing.
• TBone14

  

  lhslep134;1706814 wrote:Our positions are far from mutually exclusive. I agree season ticket holders are important. But any time you're making a big investment like that you should be considering the value you're inputting and the value you're getting out. And if someone is so convinced that it's not worth the value but still pays for them, I refuse to give any merit to their complaining about the aforementioned value gap.
  
  The inverse SHOULD apply to the Indians. If less and less people are investing in season tickets the Tribe should do something to incentivize them. If they're not, like Hits is suggesting, then that's on them and they shouldn't be surprised less people keep renewing.

  I'm not surprised you are or are going into the law. I am pretty sure we agree on this but it feels like we are arguing.
• lhslep134

  

  TBone14;1706827 wrote:I'm not surprised you are or are going into the law. I am pretty sure we agree on this but it feels like we are arguing.

  Haha well my point is directed at hits not you.
  
  and not a law student anymore I actually just accepted my first firm position yesterday.