Tribe Offseason Thread

• HitsRus

  

  I'm anxious to see how Swisher does when healthy....and IF he can stay healthy.
• HitsRus

  

  I don't know about the rest of you...but I don't really want to watch Oak @ KC.
• BRF

  

  I will be watching none of it.
• Con_Alma

  TBone14;1658994 wrote:I am fine with this. Just don't think the brass is going to have a 12M a year cheerleader.

  The problem with this $56 million deal is it now makes them gun shy to go spend money on a right handed stick.
• Con_Alma

  On another note, television viewership for the Indians was up 12% this year and
• ts1227

  

  Con_Alma;1659110 wrote:On another note, television viewership for the Indians was up 12% this year and

  Which just further proves people hate the Dolans, they're more than willing to watch/pay attention to the team, but aren't about to go drop money at the stadium (I think we ended up second to last in average attendance and dead last in terms of total number of asses in seats this year)
• iclfan2

  

  I have heard that the Tribe is going to try and move Swisher any way they can. No one wants that contract lying around.
  I'm as pessimistic as they come, but with a rejuvenated rotation and no injuries to our core players, I think things look decent for next year. We need a RF, DH, and possibly shortstop depending on Ramirez. And of course hope Kipnis can play like he used to. I think we are solid w Bourn, Brantley, Gomes, and sanatana at 1st. 3rd base is another tricky spot, bc Chiz is the opposite of consistency.
• Footwedge

  iclfan2;1659240 wrote:I have heard that the Tribe is going to try and move Swisher any way they can. No one wants that contract lying around. I'm as pessimistic as they come, but with a rejuvenated rotation and no injuries to our core players, I think things look decent for next year. We need a RF, DH, and possibly shortstop depending on Ramirez. And of course hope Kipnis can play like he used to. I think we are solid w Bourn, Brantley, Gomes, and sanatana at 1st. 3rd base is another tricky spot, bc Chiz is the opposite of consistency.

  Hope you are right on moving Swisher. It's a shame that baseball contracts for the most part are guaranteed. Tribe was handcuffed by the Hafner and Sizemore contracts for years. Now they've been replaced by Swisher and Bourn. I know Bourne should not be classified as a bust, but his production has been mediocre too.I agree that the right field problem is an issue. Way too many left handed banjo hitters on this team. don't know the splits but my guess is that Murphy, Kipnis, Chisenhall and Bourne collectively hit 30/40 points lower against ledties. Even Brantley I'm sure hit better against righties.The team was 7th in the AL in runs scored. Not bad but not great.
• Con_Alma

  ts1227;1659218 wrote:Which just further proves people hate the Dolans, they're more than willing to watch/pay attention to the team, but aren't about to go drop money at the stadium (I think we ended up second to last in average attendance and dead last in terms of total number of asses in seats this year)

  They may hate the Dolans but I don't blame them for not taking risks on big dollar contracts and players that may handcuff the team as mentioned.
• Laley23

  

  Footwedge;1659246 wrote:Hope you are right on moving Swisher. It's a shame that baseball contracts for the most part are guaranteed. Tribe was handcuffed by the Hafner and Sizemore contracts for years. Now they've been replaced by Swisher and Bourn. I know Bourne should not be classified as a bust, but his production has been mediocre too.I agree that the right field problem is an issue. Way too many left handed banjo hitters on this team. don't know the splits but my guess is that Murphy, Kipnis, Chisenhall and Bourne collectively hit 30/40 points lower against ledties. Even Brantley I'm sure hit better against righties.The team was 7th in the AL in runs scored. Not bad but not great.

  Lonnie hit 20 points higher vs Lefties. Its the whole reason he became an everyday player. All he did this offseason was work on it. The start of the year, he was platooned, then he got his shot and raked.
  
  Brantley hit 30 points lower...but he is still an AS vs them. .337 vs RHP and .307 vs LHP.
  
  Kipnis is crazy to me. Barely hit .200 vs lefties this year...last year? .308. I really do feel his nagging injuries slowed him down a ton, but he was a disappointment and needs to rebound for sure.
• HitsRus

  

  I don't think you could move Swisher and his contract at this point. I think there might be a possibility to move Bourn... probably not for much but for some mid level prospects. I'm not saying we should ...only that we could. More likely ... in a multi player trade.
• Con_Alma

  HitsRus;1659305 wrote:I don't think you could move Swisher and his contract at this point. ...

  Agreed....unless they Indians were willing to pick up some of the contract and that's not going to happen.
• BR1986FB

  Kluber getting some love. Grantland has him as their AL Cy Young winner and second, behind Mike Trout, for the AL MVP......
  
  http://grantland.com/the-triangle/mlb-awards-2014-al-nl-mvp-cy-young-rookie-of-the-year/
• HitsRus

  

  ^^^I think if you really break it down, Kluber should win by a whisker.....not that the voters do that though.
• Heretic

  

  HitsRus;1659699 wrote:^^^I think if you really break it down, Kluber should win by a whisker.....not that the voters do that though.

  The Grantland article did a good job of breaking it down like that, essentially saying that while Hernandez may have had a tiny stat advantage overall, the fact Kluber was that even with him while playing with a horrible defense should be the ultimate tiebreaker.
• Glory Days

  

  Saw that there are rumors that Alomar is in the running for the Diamondback's job.
• HitsRus

  

  There is an article on the Tribe's web site about it...
  http://m.indians.mlb.com/news/article/97201820/sandy-alomar-jr-targeted-in-diamondbacks-managerial-search
  
  Alomar is one of several candidates... He has been up for a managerial position before, and would be no surprise if he was hired away. Other Tribe coaches may also interview elsewhere.... Pretty standard business in MLB.
  
  Barring someone one leaving by upgrading their job, Francona intends to retain all of his coaches, and all intend to return.
• like_that

  

  Pluto and Hamilton's book coming out in about 5 weeks.
  
  http://www.amazon.com/Glory-Days-Tribe-Town-Cleveland/dp/1938441354/ref=sr_1_22?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1412724620&sr=1-22&keywords=terry+pluto
• TBone14

  

  2015 Schedule is out. http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/cle/downloads/y2015/2015_schedule_vertical.pdf?partnerId=as_cle_20141010_33272377
  
  NL Central is our interleague foe.
  
  Cardinals come to town for 3 in May. Tues-Thursday
  2/2 Home/Away with the Cubs in June. Home games are Wed/Thurs.
  Back to weekend 3 game sets with the Reds. Home in May. In Cincy right after the All Star Break.
  In Pittsburgh over the 4th of July Weekend.
  Host Texas on Memorial Day.
  At the White Sox on Labor Day
  
  Start the season on the road in Houston. Home opener is Friday the 10th vs the Tigers.
  Close the season at home with 4 vs Minnesota and 3 vs the Red Sox.
• Laley23

  

  Tito extended through 2018. Great move.
• Crimson streak

  

  Laley23;1670699 wrote:Tito extended through 2018. Great move.

  I agree. I was talking to my brother about this the other day. Would you give up lindor and Frazier for Stanton? My answer is with out a doubt. Then try and sign victor to be our dh. That lineup would be pretty damn good. And it would definitely put fans in the seats
• Laley23

  

  Crimson streak;1670711 wrote:I agree. I was talking to my brother about this the other day. Would you give up lindor and Frazier for Stanton? My answer is with out a doubt. Then try and sign victor to be our dh. That lineup would be pretty damn good. And it would definitely put fans in the seats

  I said during the year, Id probably give up anyone but Brantley/Kluber for Stanton.
• Heretic

  

  Crimson streak;1670711 wrote:I agree. I was talking to my brother about this the other day. Would you give up lindor and Frazier for Stanton? My answer is with out a doubt. Then try and sign victor to be our dh. That lineup would be pretty damn good. And it would definitely put fans in the seats

  All relies on whether Miami's gotten any more urge to deal him, though. The previous year, Pittsburgh allegedly put together a huge deal to try to get him and what I inferred is that, while it caused them to think about it, they weren't going to deal him. As time goes on and he gets closer to getting paid, that will obviously change, but I don't know how far in the future that will be.
• Crimson streak

  

  Heretic;1670721 wrote:All relies on whether Miami's gotten any more urge to deal him, though. The previous year, Pittsburgh allegedly put together a huge deal to try to get him and what I inferred is that, while it caused them to think about it, they weren't going to deal him. As time goes on and he gets closer to getting paid, that will obviously change, but I don't know how far in the future that will be.

  If I'm the Marlins any package that includes lindor would definitely get them thinking. Especially being that shortstop is such a valuable position. It won't happen but would be interesting to think about
• HitsRus

  

  Tribe also picked up the option on Mike Aviles ....$3.5 million.
  
  Doesn't look as if Sandy Alomar will be hired away this year....coaching staff stays intact.
  
  Everybody is under contract except Giambi, who is not expected to return