Cleveland Cavaliers Offseason 2014
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IggyPride00
We don't have one of those either. So what does that have to do with the conversation?HelloAgain;1647815 wrote:He could also ask how the presence of a dominant big man allowed him to win 5 titles. -
HelloAgain
I'd call either the best or 2nd best PF in the game a dominant big man personally.IggyPride00;1647820 wrote:We don't have one of those either. So what does that have to do with the conversation? -
SportsAndLady
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HelloAgain
Glad people are still asking the basketball opinions of a guy who let David Kahn run his organization for 5 years.SportsAndLady;1647867 wrote:http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=11415027 -
ernest_t_bass
The butt hurtz feelz are strong with him.SportsAndLady;1647867 wrote:http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=11415027 -
BR1986FB
Agreed. That came across as sour grapes. Now Love could crash & burn (highly doubtful) but, as HelloAgain said, pretty skeptical of a guys' opinion who has had about as much success as an owners as the recent owners of the Browns.ernest_t_bass;1647875 wrote:The butt hurtz feelz are strong with him.
From that article, my belief is that Love just has to be a "decent" defender. He doesn't need to make the NBA All Defensive Team for the Cavs to be very successful. -
BR1986FB
And probably THE best passer, in transition, for a big man in the game, which LBJ & Kyrie should thrive off of.HelloAgain;1647859 wrote:I'd call either the best or 2nd best PF in the game a dominant big man personally. -
Midstate01We all agree kyrie sucked on defense too. Have you watched team USA though? He's playing a lot of defense. And pretty damn well. So maybe its just being around winning that brings it out?
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like_thatOur owner was pretty butt hurt too when Lebron left to be fair.
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like_that
Hopefully. I remember when everyone said the celtics big 3 was going to be a defensive liability, and they turned out just fine.Midstate01;1647884 wrote:We all agree kyrie sucked on defense too. Have you watched team USA though? He's playing a lot of defense. And pretty damn well. So maybe its just being around winning that brings it out? -
FootwedgeAt pinnacle, Cavs at +282. Next highest favorite is San Antonio at +392. Cavs sitting as a strong favorite with better than even money of reaching the NBA finals. I think the defense will be fine. People like Love and Kyrie will step that end up because they have the opportunity of winning it all.
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sleeper
Our owner also found out his star player was leaving on national TV in exchange for 2 mid 20's first round draft picks 5 years later. Glen Taylor got back to back #1 overall picks, the best prospect since Lebron, and a talented PF in Thaddeus Young for a player who informed the Wolves he was leaving after this year anyway.like_that;1647885 wrote:Our owner was pretty butt hurt too when Lebron left to be fair.
As far as his comments, I don't disagree entirely but Love might change his defensive attitude when playing on a high profile team with the best player in the world. -
sportchamppsWiggins is not the best prospect since Lebron. He wasn't even a sure thing number 1 pick in his own draft. He is probably pretty close to the top 10 since Lebron.
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Dr. KnOiTaLLI'm getting annoyed that tickets haven't become available yet. Any timetable on when we can expect them to be available?
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Heretic
Possibly, wasn't his best game last year when he played in the All-Star Game and was the MVP? I'm guessing he hits another level when he feels like he has legit skill around him.Midstate01;1647884 wrote:We all agree kyrie sucked on defense too. Have you watched team USA though? He's playing a lot of defense. And pretty damn well. So maybe its just being around winning that brings it out? -
sleeper
I didn't stutter.sportchampps;1647903 wrote:Wiggins is not the best prospect since Lebron. He wasn't even a sure thing number 1 pick in his own draft. He is probably pretty close to the top 10 since Lebron. -
ohiobucks1George Karl things we smoked Minny in the trade. That's good enough for me.
I can't fucking wait for the season. -
sleeper
Me too. Love or not, I'm stoked to have Lebron back.ohiobucks1;1648073 wrote:George Karl things we smoked Minny in the trade. That's good enough for me.
I can't fucking wait for the season. -
FootwedgeCavsssss...are gonna be filthy!!
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BoatShoes
It's got to be tough to get in the mind to play hard nosed defense night in and night out when your team stinks. I've never really thought about it but I wonder how many all defensive team guards weren't on pretty good teams.Heretic;1647967 wrote:Possibly, wasn't his best game last year when he played in the All-Star Game and was the MVP? I'm guessing he hits another level when he feels like he has legit skill around him.
He's got the athletic ability to play lock down d so I believe he can turn it around. -
Laley23Kyries defense might improve on a great team (ie, team USA), but it appears Mr. Top 26's does not...
[video]https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos_h264high/AA82DD15E01117965895025754112_SW_WEBM_140951805204 62a2b83e40d.mp4?versionId=AayQJ3OOW.JOC7BWrqpjY5Ya H26AVSII[/video] -
Mulva
Wasn't Kyrie the one getting the blow-by in that clip?Laley23;1649440 wrote:Kyries defense might improve on a great team (ie, team USA), but it appears Mr. Top 26's does not...
[video]https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos_h264high/AA82DD15E01117965895025754112_SW_WEBM_140951805204 62a2b83e40d.mp4?versionId=AayQJ3OOW.JOC7BWrqpjY5Ya H26AVSII[/video] -
Dr. KnOiTaLL
He was obviously gambling and going for a steal. That's not getting blown by. That's gambling unsuccessfully.Mulva;1649453 wrote:Wasn't Kyrie the one getting the blow-by in that clip? -
Laley23
An uncontrolled close-out is 10x better than standing in one spot, not helping, continuing to not move while your player floats to the corner, still not moving an inch as your player catches and makes a 3.Mulva;1649453 wrote:Wasn't Kyrie the one getting the blow-by in that clip?
I mean, thats despicable effort in a rec league lol. And I like Harden. -
Mulva
Oh, OK. That's significantly better defense, then.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1649457 wrote:He was obviously gambling and going for a steal. That's not getting blown by. That's gambling unsuccessfully.