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2013 Cleveland Browns Thread: RIP Chud

  • Pick6
    I like the Brandon Magee claim
  • Mulva
    Pick6;1494249 wrote:JMJ was cut..the hell?
    Not a 3-4 guy.
  • shook_17
    Rainey will be our scatback Dion Lewis style. Hell probably our number 2 since Hardesty is hurt. We are suddenly very thin at RB.
  • se-alum
    Dan Carpenter was supposed to be in for a tryout tomorrow with Billy Cundiff, but Carpenter will sign with the Bills today instead.
  • iclfan2
    se-alum;1494601 wrote:Dan Carpenter was supposed to be in for a tryout tomorrow with Billy Cundiff, but Carpenter will sign with the Bills today instead.
    Damn...Cundiff sucks. It pisses me off Heckert didn't want to keep Dawson. Dude is making $2M in San Fran. Bullshit the way he was treated here. Per some articles this weekend, he did want to stay and retire a Brown.
  • Commander of Awesome
    Hopefully rainey is done being a POS. I love his talent.

    Edit: I thought it was Chris Rainey, ex POS steelers RB. Turns out its Bobby Rainey from Western Kentucky. We also picked up another RB Johnson. Glad we got some RB help bc Brandon Jackson looked like shit running out there. Outside of Trich, our RBs left a lot to be desired after Lewis was hurt.
  • Commander of Awesome
    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/09/as_talk_of_roster_tumult_build.html#incart_river#incart_special-report
  • Pick6
    agreed to terms with Cundiff
  • iclfan2
    Pick6;1494938 wrote:agreed to terms with Cundiff
    Probly gonna cut an OL.
  • shook_17
    cundiff, saw a stat today that says his career number of 50 yards plus is 5-21. yikes. and we let Phil Dawson walk. What a joke.
  • Commander of Awesome
    shook_17;1495010 wrote:cundiff, saw a stat today that says his career number of 50 yards plus is 5-21. yikes. and we let Phil Dawson walk. What a joke.
    Cundiff is $800k, Dawson was $3mil. All about the money.
  • iclfan2
    Commander of Awesome;1495014 wrote:Cundiff is $800k, Dawson was $3mil. All about the money.
    Disagree. Heckert never tried to sign Phil. Per jay feely, Dawson wanted to retire a brown. Turns out they didn't cut an Oline today, they put Pinkston on the temporary reserve list. Earliest he can be back is Nov 3rd
  • Commander of Awesome
    iclfan2;1495015 wrote:Disagree. Heckert never tried to sign Phil. Per jay feely, Dawson wanted to retire a brown. Turns out they didn't cut an Oline today, they put Pinkston on the temporary reserve list. Earliest he can be back is Nov 3rd
    We have lombardi, he also didn't try and resign Dawson. Dawson wanted the big pay check and neither regime wanted to give it to him. I don't disagree. I wanted him to retire a brown and all but he's a fucking kicker. I don't want to screw up cap to overpay an aging vet that could fall off at any moment. Kickers are like bullpen/closers in baseball. Historically unreliable from year to year except for a few exceptions. Rather spend the money on TDs than FGs.
  • iclfan2
    Yea, actually just read another article where banner said it was time to move on. Prob money related, but they're still way under cap. Oh well. Maybe we won't need him to kick any 50+ fg's
  • Pick6
    Commander of Awesome;1495019 wrote:We have lombardi, he also didn't try and resign Dawson. Dawson wanted the big pay check and neither regime wanted to give it to him. I don't disagree. I wanted him to retire a brown and all but he's a fucking kicker. I don't want to screw up cap to overpay an aging vet that could fall off at any moment. Kickers are like bullpen/closers in baseball. Historically unreliable from year to year except for a few exceptions. Rather spend the money on TDs than FGs.
    Im glad they invested in talent that produced all of 1 TD last season (Bess). Should of kept Dawson, even for the price. Kickers win and lose a lot of games.
  • Commander of Awesome
    How many first downs did Bess produce Pick6? Also would you rather have Bess start the season at #2 WR (vet who produces) or Travis Benjamin? Give me a Joe J vet WR whos on the field a hell of a lot more than a kicker.
  • Pick6
    Dont get me wrong I like Bess. Just wish they would of handled the kicking situation better. Not scrape up some scrub that nobody else wants who has been traded/waived/claimed 13 different times during his 11 year career.
  • IggyPride00
    Pick6;1495023 wrote:Im glad they invested in talent that produced all of 1 TD last season (Bess). Should of kept Dawson, even for the price. Kickers win and lose a lot of games.
    Amen.

    Even if it cost them $5-6 Million a year for 2-3 years so he could retire a Brown, they could have front loaded it with the signing bonus for the hit to be mostly this year.

    We have $26 million in cap room still as of Aug 23rd according to ESPN's John Clayton. You can carry some over, but there was more than enough there to pay Dawson this year without it being a long term albatross or alter the team's planning.

    Dawson being so good has made us take for granted how fickle the kicking position can be when you don't have a good one.

    On a cap related note, does anyone think Mack is gone after this season?

    We have a ton of cap room still, and you would think an extension for him would be done by now. He is one of the better centers in the league, and it seems foolish to let him hit the FA market as someone is bound to overpay him which drives the price up of keeping him if that is what we wanted.

    I am all for responsible cap management, but it seems there is no strategy right now other than to just hoard cash for the sake of hoarding cash.
  • BR1986FB
    Great. Billy Fucking Cuntlip. Bet we lose one game due to the kicker.
  • wes_mantooth
    BR1986FB;1495400 wrote:Great. Billy Fucking Cuntlip. Bet we lose one game due to the kicker.
    STFU....he is clutch.

    [video=youtube;3nURz04Y9s8][/video]
  • Iliketurtles
    BR1986FB;1495400 wrote:Great. Billy Fucking Cuntlip. Bet we lose one game due to the kicker.
    Lol never heard him called that but that is great.
  • BR1986FB
    Iliketurtles;1495428 wrote:Lol never heard him called that but that is great.
    It was a slam dunk. Along with my dubbing of Jhonny Peralta as "Moon Pie." :)
  • Commander of Awesome
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9634737/steve-smith-carolina-panthers-says-problems-last-year-had-do-rob-chudzinski

    QQ steve smith. That doesn't even make sense, the best way to audition for a HC gig, is to have a great offense or have the same agent as Holmgren, everyone knows that.
  • like_that
    Commander of Awesome;1495452 wrote:http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9634737/steve-smith-carolina-panthers-says-problems-last-year-had-do-rob-chudzinski

    QQ steve smith. That doesn't even make sense, the best way to audition for a HC gig, is to have a great offense or have the same agent as Holmgren, everyone knows that.

    Nice tweet plagiarism.
  • Commander of Awesome
    like_that;1495463 wrote:Nice tweet plagiarism.
    I didn't. Nice fail though.