Cincinnati Reds Off-Season Thread

• thavoice

  Love the move for chapma
• justincredible

  

  Azubuike24;1335166 wrote:Bailey and Latos are free agent after this year. Given the recent contracts to pitchers of their caliber, there's no way they sign both. Latos will cost in the 10-13M/yr range and Bailey in the 8-10M/yr range.

  Latos isn't a FA until 2016.
• Azubuike24

  

  I mispoke, but he'll start escalating salary through arbitration. Would be the time to discuss extending him and/or Bailey.
• SnotBubbles

  

  SportsAndLady;1331689 wrote:Dusty is my bottom 5 favorite person in the world, but the whole "Dusty ruins arms" fallacy is a joke.

  It's not a joke. He overuses young pitching, keeps them on the mound for too long and ends up ruining their arms. The human arm isn't made to throw a ball 90+MPH 110 times, 32 times a year. Dusty Baker disagrees.
  
  And lol at all of you Reds fans hating on Baker. All the guy does it get teams to the playoffs and win. Think back 5 years ago...oh, wait...most of you didn't become Reds fans until they got good again.
• SportsAndLady

  

  SnotBubbles;1336694 wrote:And lol at all of you Reds fans hating on Baker. All the guy does it get teams to the playoffs and win. Think back 5 years ago...oh, wait...most of you didn't become Reds fans until they got good again.

  Uhh, we don't want to just win and make the playoffs...this isn't Chicago, Snot, we actually try and win world series. The guy has choked on 3 teams now in the playoffs, with great teams. We'll never do anything with Dusty Baker except "just win and make the playoffs"....then lose in the playoffs.
  
  Don't you do a sports radio show? If so, you're probably really fucking lousy at it.
• Ironman92

  

  SnotBubbles;1336694 wrote:It's not a joke. He overuses young pitching, keeps them on the mound for too long and ends up ruining their arms. The human arm isn't made to throw a ball 90+MPH 110 times, 32 times a year. Dusty Baker disagrees.
  
  And lol at all of you Reds fans hating on Baker. All the guy does it get teams to the playoffs and win. Think back 5 years ago...oh, wait...most of you didn't become Reds fans until they got good again.

  
  You're on a bitter roll this morning.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Ironman92;1336715 wrote:You're on a bitter roll this morning.

  Someone either pissed in his cheerios or he was raped this morning
  
  http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?38054-LOL-wut&p=1336716&viewfull=1#post1336716
• Ironman92

  

  SportsAndLady;1336718 wrote:Someone either pissed in his cheerios or he was raped this morning
  
  http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?38054-LOL-wut&p=1336716&viewfull=1#post1336716

  
  Yeah....I just saw that after I posted. Can't find his flying monkeys or something.
• Rotinaj

  

  SnotBubbles;1336694 wrote:It's not a joke. He overuses young pitching, keeps them on the mound for too long and ends up ruining their arms. The human arm isn't made to throw a ball 90+MPH 110 times, 32 times a year. Dusty Baker disagrees.
  
  And lol at all of you Reds fans hating on Baker. All the guy does it get teams to the playoffs and win. Think back 5 years ago...oh, wait...most of you didn't become Reds fans until they got good again.

  So you are aloud to dislike baker but the fans of the team he underachieves with arent? Go Find Yourself.
• SnotBubbles

  

  SportsAndLady;1336713 wrote:Uhh, we don't want to just win and make the playoffs...this isn't Chicago, Snot, we actually try and win world series. The guy has choked on 3 teams now in the playoffs, with great teams. We'll never do anything with Dusty Baker except "just win and make the playoffs"....then lose in the playoffs.
  
  Don't you do a sports radio show? If so, you're probably really fucking lousy at it.

  Totally fucking lousy.
  
  Most of the other 29 teams in MLB aren't the Yankees....MOST of them. You have to be patient to win a World Series. 3 years ago the Reds were the laughing stock of the NL Central, maybe even the league. If you know anything about baseball, you know it takes time to get competitive. You don't go from 72 wins to a World Series Championship in 1 year.
  
  Just remember, the Reds have had 2 good seasons in the last 10 years.
• SnotBubbles

  

  Rotinaj;1336725 wrote:So you are aloud to dislike baker but the fans of the team he underachieves with arent? Go Find Yourself.

  Who says I dislike Baker? I dislike how he handles young pitching talent...but I think he's a great coach and his track record speaks volumes to that.
  
  How are the Reds underachieving? 2 NL titles in the last 3 years, 2 trips to the playoffs in the last 3 years....
  
  Underachieving is not winning a championship in 104 years. Or having one of the league's top payrolls and finishing towards the bottom. Don't debate a Cubs fan on underachieving! The Reds are actually overachieving in my opinion.
  
  But all of the "new" Reds fans that came out of the woodwork 3 years ago don't understand how baseball works. It's the only sports where a plan and building process is key to success. You can't just buy a good team for an extended period of time...you have to develop it. The Reds have done a good job at developing it, stick with and trust the organization and Baker.
• Rotinaj

  

  SnotBubbles;1336744 wrote:Totally fucking lousy.
  
  Most of the other 29 teams in MLB aren't the Yankees....MOST of them. You have to be patient to win a World Series. 3 years ago the Reds were the laughing stock of the NL Central, maybe even the league. If you know anything about baseball, you know it takes time to get competitive. You don't go from 72 wins to a World Series Championship in 1 year.
  
  Just remember, the Reds have had 2 good seasons in the last 10 years.

  3 years ago the Reds were 78-84. Hardly a laughing stock. I wouldnt expect you to know this, being a moron and all.
• Rotinaj

  

  And you can still underachieve even if you make the playoffs. Once again, i dont expect you to actually know this because of the previously stated reason.
• Ironman92

  

  Who are these new Reds fans?
  
  Dusty's playoff record speaks for itself....but he has been the manager for 3 of the 7 biggest postseason collapses....for 3 different teams.
• SnotBubbles

  

  Ironman92;1336761 wrote:Who are these new Reds fans?
  
  Dusty's playoff record speaks for itself....but he has been the manager for 3 of the 7 biggest postseason collapses....for 3 different teams.

  LOL! Cincinnati is the biggest bunch of fair weather fans I've ever seen! Check out the stands 3 years ago. There were people I didn't even know liked baseball all of sudden come out and say "Go Reds!" I'm not saying all, but there were a LOT!
• SnotBubbles

  

  Rotinaj;1336757 wrote:3 years ago the Reds were 78-84. Hardly a laughing stock. I wouldnt expect you to know this, being a moron and all.

  Questioning my intelligence because you disagree with me? That seems like a good debate strategy. 3 years ago was the beginning of the turn. But they were still not very good, and you can't argue that fact. I expect you to know this, not being a moron and all, but 4 of the 6 years prior to that the Reds finished 5th in the division. That's laughable.
• Ironman92

  

  SnotBubbles;1336795 wrote:LOL! Cincinnati is the biggest bunch of fair weather fans I've ever seen! Check out the stands 3 years ago. There were people I didn't even know liked baseball all of sudden come out and say "Go Reds!" I'm not saying all, but there were a LOT!

  
  Ok.....I don't know what you're talking about but if that's your thought. My experiences tell me the Bengals fans are far more like that....but it's also way cheaper to hit a Reds game.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Bengals fans definitely do not have the following the reds have..reds fans are some of the best in baseball. Its really not a debate that reds fans are fair weather. That's just retarded.
• SnotBubbles

  

  SportsAndLady;1336815 wrote:Bengals fans definitely do not have the following the reds have..reds fans are some of the best in baseball. Its really not a debate that reds fans are fair weather. That's just retarded.

  It's not retarded. I've gone to many games down there where the seats were not even close to being filled. I've watched hundreds of people who I didn't even know like baseball turn in to die hard Reds fans (ETB). If you can't see that, then you weren't a fan 4-5 years ago when no one around claimed to like the Reds...which makes you one of the fair weather fans.
• Midstate01

  

  Lol at only being reds fans for the last 3 years. Guarantee you could go back years and the same people here would be there posting. I hated the losing years. But still watched 150-160 games a year. Not everyone is a fair weather fan...
• Midstate01

  

  SnotBubbles;1336797 wrote:Questioning my intelligence because you disagree with me? That seems like a good debate strategy. 3 years ago was the beginning of the turn. But they were still not very good, and you can't argue that fact. I expect you to know this, not being a moron and all, but 4 of the 6 years prior to that the Reds finished 5th in the division. That's laughable.

  
  Actually 5 years ago was the beginning of the turn. As they went with all young players and let them grow together and struggle together. And even though they lost a ton of games, they were reslly fun to watch and you could see something building.
• SportsAndLady

  

  SnotBubbles;1336885 wrote:It's not retarded. I've gone to many games down there where the seats were not even close to being filled. I've watched hundreds of people who I didn't even know like baseball turn in to die hard Reds fans (ETB). If you can't see that, then you weren't a fan 4-5 years ago when no one around claimed to like the Reds...which makes you one of the fair weather fans.

  
  Jesus you are super intelligent..
  
  Fair weather fans but they don't show up to watch the games?
  
  No one shows up because they'd rather watch from home...take a look at FSO's tv ratings for reds games and get back to us.
  
  Hell there was a game thread started for every game this year, including early in the season, coming off a down year. Such fair weather we are.
• IggyPride00

  

  http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/05/scott-rolen-still-not-sure-if-hell-retire-or-play-an-18th-season/
  
  I thought Rolen was done for sure, seems the Reds fans on here couldn't wait to get rid of him?
• justincredible

  

  SnotBubbles;1336694 wrote:It's not a joke. He overuses young pitching, keeps them on the mound for too long and ends up ruining their arms. The human arm isn't made to throw a ball 90+MPH 110 times, 32 times a year. Dusty Baker disagrees.

  Is the human arm made to throw a ball 90+MPH 90 times, 32 times a year? How about 85 times? What's the magic cutoff number?
• SnotBubbles

  

  justincredible;1336940 wrote:Is the human arm made to throw a ball 90+MPH 90 times, 32 times a year? How about 85 times? What's the magic cutoff number?

  93. Scientifically proven by scientists.