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BearBoy69;1284160 wrote:Personally I think the Cavs are making the right moves. Or I could be a Cleveland basketball idiot like all Browns fans have no clue about football at all.

Oh you are. They really skipped on Barnes for Waiters? Seriously Barnes and Irving would've been an amazing duo.

sleeper

friendfromlowry;1283574 wrote:IF they pull off one of the last seeds in the playoffs that just means getting super-stomped by Chicago or Miami. And that's a big 'IF' to begin with. Kyrie is often hurt, so is Varejao. We'll see what Zellar and Waiters can provide but they're going to have to be impressive.

Sleeper - You said something about the Wizards being the most surprising team. Why?

They got a good starting 5 in Wall, Beal, Ariza, Okafor, and Nene. They should be much better this year.

Mulva

Commander of Awesome;1284164 wrote:Who over TT and Zeller?

I thought last year's draft class was awful, like everyone else. i wanted irving and kanter. once that possibility was gone there was nobody i would have taken at 4 (was unsold on Jonas). wanted them to trade back (or trade out entirely).

I liked klay thompson, who looked pretty good this year, and Tobias Harris, who basically did nothing, but wouldn't have touched either of them at 5.

I like zeller. If we were trading up the only other guy i might have taken was t jones. I would have just prefered to keep our second rounders and sticking at 25 or whatever it was. Thought there was good depth in this draft.

Crimson streak

Mulva;1284219 wrote:I thought last year's draft class was awful, like everyone else. i wanted irving and kanter. once that possibility was gone there was nobody i would have taken at 4 (was unsold on Jonas). wanted them to trade back (or trade out entirely).

I liked klay thompson, who looked pretty good this year, and Tobias Harris, who basically did nothing, but wouldn't have touched either of them at 5.

I like zeller. If we were trading up the only other guy i might have taken was t jones. I would have just prefered to keep our second rounders and sticking at 25 or whatever it was. Thought there was good depth in this draft.

I disagree. You can't go in the season with 4 rookies on your roster. Especially 2nd rd picks who rarely ever pan out, zeller was a steal where we selected him. He's very solid in all aspects of the game. He's not a guy whose going to average 20&10 but a guy that can get you 13 and 10 and he runs the floor better than 90 percent of the centers in the nba. The waiters pick I'm ok with because they needed another guy who can create his own shot. The only 2 guys that could do that in this draft were waiters and lamb, and possibly mkg. If you look at college stats waiters actually shot better than beal did.

KR1245

Crimson streak;1284240 wrote:I disagree. You can't go in the season with 4 rookies on your roster. Especially 2nd rd picks who rarely ever pan out, zeller was a steal where we selected him. He's very solid in all aspects of the game. He's not a guy whose going to average 20&10 but a guy that can get you 13 and 10 and he runs the floor better than 90 percent of the centers in the nba. The waiters pick I'm ok with because they needed another guy who can create his own shot. The only 2 guys that could do that in this draft were waiters and lamb, and possibly mkg. If you look at college stats waiters actually shot better than beal did.

I agree. This was a deep draft but giving up the 24th pick as well as a couple picks in the 30's isnt that big of a deal

jordo212000

Mulva;1283749 wrote:Lamb would have been my top choice in the draft (for the Cavs situation).

I would have done this as well.

like_that

jordo212000;1284275 wrote:I would have done this as well.

Hey Jordo are you going to make a crazy going out on a limb prediction this year like the cavs won't make the playoffs and then when they don't you are going to post about how you told us so?!?!?!

Can't wait, we all love the sports knowledge you add to all threads!!!!!!

jordo212000

like_that;1284279 wrote:Hey Jordo are you going to make a crazy going out on a limb prediction this year like the cavs won't make the playoffs and then when they don't you are going to post about how you told us so?!?!?!

Can't wait, we all love the sports knowledge you add to all threads!!!!!!

I'll make my predictions soon

Commander of Awesome

jordo212000;1284280 wrote:I'll make my predictions soon

Can't wait to read you and bearboy discussing them!

like_that

Commander of Awesome;1284362 wrote:Can't wait to read you and bearboy discussing them!

Didn't knwo what you were talking about until I checked the first page on this thread. I needed the lulz. lolfail at blake being a better all around player than KD.

Anyway, you are giving jordo too much credit. No way he will make a prediction and get into a discussion with somebody. He will make an obvious prediction that maybe one person will respond to, and then later in the year he will claim that "a bunch of posters" didn't agree with him.

Commander of Awesome

like_that;1284369 wrote:Didn't knwo what you were talking about until I checked the first page on this thread. I needed the lulz. lolfail at blake being a better all around player than KD.

Anyway, you are giving jordo too much credit. No way he will make a prediction and get into a discussion with somebody. He will make an obvious prediction that maybe one person will respond to, and then later in the year he will claim that "a bunch of posters" didn't agree with him.

Yeah his trolling, and running amok in Cleveland threads is nothing new.

like_that

ROY- Anthony Davis
DPOY- Dwight Howard
MVP- Blake Griffin (LOLFAIL). Kevin Durant edges LeBron this year
Most Surprising team- T-Wolves
Most Disappointing- NY Knicks/Chicago Bulls
Eastern Conference Champs- Heat
Western Conference Champs- Lakers

All NBA 1st Team-
G- Chris Paul
G- Westbrook
F- Lebron James
F- Kevin Durant
C- Dwight Howard

Commander of Awesome

ROY- Barnes
DPOY- Dwight Howard
MVP- Durrantuala
Most Surprising team- Not sure what this means, but I'll go with team we thought would be bad and make the playoffs - Golden State
Most Disappointing- Clippers
Eastern Conference Champs- Heat
Western Conference Champs- Lakers

All NBA 1st Team-
G- Chris Paul
G- Dwill
F- Lebron James
F- Kevin Durant
C- Dwight Howard

Commander of Awesome

Tom Thibodeau and the Bulls aggread upon a 4 yr extension. Seems like a no brainer to me. Bulls fans have to be glad its done before the start of the season.

Mulva

Crimson streak;1284240 wrote:I disagree. You can't go in the season with 4 rookies.

Why not?

Crimson streak

Mulva;1284755 wrote:Why not?

Cause that means your going to be horrible. Especially when their 2nd round picks. And plus there wasn't much room on the roster for them all. Plus the cavs picked up Kevin jones who they would have drafted in the 2nd rd if they had a pick so essentially we got rid of a 2nd and a late first for zeller

Mulva

Crimson streak;1284761 wrote:Cause that means your going to be horrible. Especially when their 2nd round picks. And plus there wasn't much room on the roster for them all. Plus the cavs picked up Kevin jones who they would have drafted in the 2nd rd if they had a pick so essentially we got rid of a 2nd and a late first for zeller

I would take a lot of wings that were available in the 2nd over Walton, casspi (at least last year's casspi), and Gibson. I also would have taken a couple PGs (at 25 or in round 2) over Sloan and pargo (who are both 2nd year guys by the way... Not a huge difference).

We were gonna be horrible either way. I don't think rookies would have changed that.

Crimson streak

Mulva;1284769 wrote:I would take a lot of wings that were available in the 2nd over Walton, casspi (at least last year's casspi), and Gibson. I also would have taken a couple PGs (at 25 or in round 2) over Sloan and pargo (who are both 2nd year guys by the way... Not a huge difference).

We were gonna be horrible either way. I don't think rookies would have changed that.

But you also need some vets on this team. I agree about Walton and casspi. But Walton is a huge expiring/ trade chip.

Trueblue23

ROY: Kidd-Gilchrist
DPOY: Dwight Howard
MVP: Durant edges LeBron (More so a "we don't wanna give it to LBJ again" deal"
Most surprising team: Dallas Mavericks
Most disappointing team: Knicks
Eastern Conference Champions: Miami Heat
Western Conference Champions: Los Angeles.... Lakers
NBA Champ: Kobe gets #6. Lakers.

All NBA First Team
Chris Paul
Kobe Bryant
LeBron James
Kevin Durant
Dwight Howard

Ironman92

Here's my prediction....Dwight Howard won't be great this year.

Trueblue23

Ironman92;1284906 wrote:Here's my prediction....Dwight Howard won't be great this year.

Really? What makes you have that opinion?

sleeper

Because Howard is overrated and he'll be shadowed by Steve Nash and Pau Gasol.

Crimson streak

sleeper;1284998 wrote:Because Howard is overrated and he'll be shadowed by Steve Nash and Pau Gasol.

Not only that but I don't think his back will hold up. Back problems is no joke it can effect you the rest of your life

Ironman92

Trueblue23;1284987 wrote:Really? What makes you have that opinion?

Just a hunch...great fits don't always work.

Commander of Awesome

On its face, it’s the best talent I’ve been around," Bryant said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--kobe-calls-lakers-his-most-talented-team-ever.html

My first reaction was to disagree, but when I thought about it, I'd have to agree with him. Also I'd say its more talented than the Celtics team that won it, maybe more than the Bulls team that won (player wise, not the way the team plays together) and maybe more talented than the current Heat team.

I think most people on here severely under rate Pau Gasol, and lets just say I highly disagree with some of the opinions I read on here regarding Howard. Barring an injury, I expect him to be a monster this year. What do you guys think, most talented Lakers team in Kobe's tenure? What about in the league?

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