Grade the Browns 2012 Draft
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FootwedgeYes, the Smelley pick was indeed rancid.
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Y-Town SteelhoundIf Smelley develops into a special teams starter, then it's a good pick.
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Skyhook79
They came into the draft with 13 picks and ended up with 11. They could have had Decastro and Hill or Jeffery and Brandon Thompson (huge run stopper) along with TRich. I am fine with the late round picks because you never know with those. Instead they picked Weeden,Schwartz and Hughes. The Browns blew it and I would give them a D.DeyDurkie5;1156855 wrote:Round Pick # Player Pos. 1 3 Trent. Richardson RB 1 22 Brandon. Weeden QB 2 5 Mitchell. Schwartz T 3 25 John. Hughes DT 4 5 Travis. Benjamin WR 4 25 James-Michael. Johnson LB 5 25 Ryan. Miller G 6 35 Emmanuel. Acho LB 6 36 Billy. Winn DT 7 38 Trevin. Wade CB 7 40 Brad. Smelley TE
The only pick I didn't like in that was the Hughes pick. Other than that, we got a couple linemen that could potentially start, we got a RB, we got a QB, and to be honest I loved the Billy Winn pick. I watched his videos on youtube and he is a beast.
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DeyDurkie5
I have no problem with them using picks to secure Richardson. Tampa really liked him and were going to jump the vikings to get him from what I've read. If, and it's a big if, Weeden turns out to be our QB then is passing over decastro really that big of a deal? Hughes was a retarded pick, no doubt about that. But I don't mind the other picks, especially the Winn pick.Skyhook79;1156886 wrote:They came into the draft with 13 picks and ended up with 11. They could have had Decastro and Hill or Jeffery and Brandon Thompson (huge run stopper) along with TRich. I am fine with the late round picks because you never know with those. Instead they picked Weeden,Schwartz and Hughes. The Browns blew it and I would give them a D. -
wes_mantoothThe best part of their draft is what they didn't do.....give up the farm for rg3
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DeyDurkie5People are mad because we didn't get Kendall Wright. That's about as dumb as giving up the farm for RG3. An over-weight, 4.59 WR is not what the browns need.
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SportsAndLady
Yeah Benjamin is what we need lolDeyDurkie5;1156919 wrote:People are mad because we didn't get Kendall Wright. That's about as dumb as giving up the farm for RG3. An over-weight, 4.59 WR is not what the browns need.
Benjamin, Little, and Massaquoi
With Brandon Fucking Weeden throwing to them.
Christ on a cross how pathetic has this organization become? -
like_that
And then drafting his backup with their 4th round pick lol.wes_mantooth;1156918 wrote:The best part of their draft is what they didn't do.....give up the farm for rg3 -
Lockup ScreenC-.....The lack of getting a top WR in the first, second, or even third round! Is horrible. If it wasnt for Trent, and getting a couple good lineman, it would have been an F
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MulvaWalter Football:
Kiper gave it a B-.2012 NFL Draft Grade: C-
Goals Entering the 2012 NFL Draft: No one wants to play for the Browns, per certain reports. Whether you believe them or not, there's no denying that this Cleveland team doesn't appear as though it's going anywhere. There's no franchise quarterback, while the offense as a whole lacks play-makers. The 2012 NFL Draft will be all about bolstering the scoring unit.
2012 NFL Draft Accomplishments: There's nothing worse than targeting one player in a certain spot and then panicking when that prospect is plucked off the board a selection or two earlier. That's exactly what happened to the Browns at No. 22. They were set to take Kendall Wright, but then had to reach for Brandon Weeden when Tennessee took him at No. 20. Mike Holmgren did not have a Plan B.
If Weeden can be a franchise quarterback, this will be a good draft class. However, that's unlikely. He'll be 29 soon, and by the time he figures things out, he'll be in his 30s. He'll be 33 when his first contract is up. Oh, and then there's the dubious history of Big XII quarterbacks flopping in the NFL. Weeden should not have been a first-round pick, and Cleveland must be heavily downgraded for that.
Some other choices didn't make much sense. Both John Hughes and Travis Benjamin were major reaches; the Hughes pick was particularly confusing because it didn't fill a need and failed to upgrade the offense. On the bright side, Trent Richardson will be a stud, while various late-round selections provided great value -
SportsAndLady
This is what sucks..sure, Trent Rich is going to be amazing..but they're not going to win anything. THey're going to be that team with the great running back but no success. SweetOn the bright side, Trent Richardson will be a stud, while various late-round selections provided great value -
FootwedgeRay Rice has done OK with a shit quarterback. Weedon will be better than flacco once he gets some receivers.
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lhslep134Well our team now closely resembles what the Ravens were before Smith and Boldin. A stud every down running back, a big armed quarterback who will never be elite, mediocre receivers.
If our defense/receivers step up we have a chance to be pretty decent. We were competitive in a lot of games last year with a roster that was a lot worse than it is now. You guys are b*tching way too much. -
lhslep134
My god we just posted the same thing. I guess we can agree on something every now and then.Footwedge;1157075 wrote:Ray Rice has done OK with a **** quarterback. Weedon will be better than flacco once he gets some receivers. -
SportsAndLady
When you agree w/ footwedge, you're wrong.lhslep134;1157079 wrote:My god we just posted the same thing. I guess we can agree on something every now and then. -
Pick6
Maybe we are bitching too much. And, I do agree that if receivers step up, Weeden turns out OK, the Browns have a chance to be decent, maybe consistently season to season.lhslep134;1157078 wrote:Well our team now closely resembles what the Ravens were before Smith and Boldin. A stud every down running back, a big armed quarterback who will never be elite, mediocre receivers.
If our defense/receivers step up we have a chance to be pretty decent. We were competitive in a lot of games last year with a roster that was a lot worse than it is now. You guys are b*tching way too much.
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lhslep134
Yeah but in this case we're right. Think seriously about each game last year. We were in it for the majority of them. With a stud running back (who inherently takes pressure of the qb), we hold the ball a little longer, score a few more points, win more ball games.SportsAndLady;1157082 wrote:When you agree w/ footwedge, you're wrong.
We don't need Weeden to be elite (at least not right now), we need him to just not suck. Little will be good, and if Cribbs, Mitchell (no f'in way), Norwood or Massaquoi (no f'in way) step up, and Benjamin is our Torrey Smith, we will definitely be better.
The draft didn't go as well as it could have, but we made some serious progress towards getting better. -
hoops23F--
I hope Lerner moves this garbage team to Europe.
Easily the worst draft in the history of fuck. -
SportsAndLady
You're not right..because we don't know who is right yet.lhslep134;1157087 wrote:Yeah but in this case we're right.
But you're definitely wrong w/ the Ravens comparison. Trent isn't a stud RB yet (he could be a bust for all we know), Weeden isn't comparable to Flacco (he could be a bust, too) other than they both have good arm strength, and our receivers aren't mediocre..they're straight up awful. The Ravens have at the very worst mediocre receivers. The Browns receivers would be on the practice squad of almost every other NFL team. They're awful. Terrible. Disgustingly bad. And we didn't do a god damn thing to improve the position. That's what has me so upset. We could have picked up a free agent WR or two, yet we sat around and did nothing.
It's arrogance...they think our WRs are good enough. It's going to be hilarious watching them (H&H) realize that isn't the case. -
hoops23What if the WR's are better than we think? Our QB play has been horrendous and the running game last year was non existent.
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SportsAndLady
It's possible..just my opinion that they are garbage. I've seen enough of them to know that it wasn't JUST McCoy fucking uphoops23;1157106 wrote:What if the WR's are better than we think? Our QB play has been horrendous and the running game last year was non existent. -
Crimson streakhoops23;1157106 wrote:What if the WR's are better than we think? Our QB play has been horrendous and the running game last year was non existent.
Shhh s&l Is always right you should know this by now -
Pick6
Leading the league in drops has nothing to do with bad QB play or a running game. The ball is thrown a little bit behind you? So what, adjust and make the catch. In little D6 high school football we were expected to catch the ball if we could get our hands on it. If it can be done in the smallest level of high school football, I'd hope these guys playing football for a living can do it.hoops23;1157106 wrote:What if the WR's are better than we think? Our QB play has been horrendous and the running game last year was non existent. -
BR1986FB
Agreedhoops23;1157095 wrote:F--
I hope Lerner moves this garbage team to Europe.
Easily the worst draft in the history of fuck.
Horrible RB. Thought they should've taken Boom Herron.
Another noodle armed QB with the second pick. Should've gone with the "sure thing", late in Kellen Moore.
An offensive tackle who looked horrible owning Nick Perry when they faced each other.
And the rest couldn't scratch the lineup of the Gladiators. -
hoops23
TO dropped a lot of passes.Pick6;1157116 wrote:Leading the league in drops has nothing to do with bad QB play or a running game. The ball is thrown a little bit behind you? So what, adjust and make the catch. In little D6 high school football we were expected to catch the ball if we could get our hands on it. If it can be done in the smallest level of high school football, I'd hope these guys playing football for a living can do it.
Let me ask you a question, would you take BRandon Marshall?